• Buddhism and Stoicism

    From unixl0rd@VERT/BEERS20 to All on Fri May 10 20:02:00 2024
    Do you practice either (or both)? I got into Stoicism a few years ago, but I felt like it was not complete enough. I'm currently learning about Buddhism, and I find there is a lot of overlap between the two philosophies.

    ... "It's okay. It's okay." Kim
  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to unixl0rd on Sun May 12 06:55:00 2024
    unixl0rd wrote to All <=-

    Do you practice either (or both)? I got into Stoicism a few years ago,
    but I felt like it was not complete enough. I'm currently learning
    about Buddhism, and I find there is a lot of overlap between the two philosophies.

    I don't know if I'd call it practicing it, but I've been interested in
    buddhism for some time since college. I like the interconnectedness that
    it, IMO shares with hinduism - being nice to each other helps us as
    well, since we're all interconnected.

    Tim Ferris, the podcaster, talks a lot about stoicism - check him out if
    you haven't already. I downloaded Seneca's works after listening to him
    talk about it.



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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to unixl0rd on Wed Jul 24 12:12:50 2024
    Re: Buddhism and Stoicism
    By: unixl0rd to All on Fri May 10 2024 08:02 pm

    Do you practice either (or both)? I got into Stoicism a few years ago, but I felt like it was not complete enough. I'm currently learning about Buddhism, and I find there is a lot of overlap between the two philosophies.

    I tried Stoicism once, but then I remembered I was a human being.

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  • From anthk@VERT to All on Thu Mar 20 09:56:04 2025
    On 2024-05-10, unixl0rd <BEERS20!unixl0rd@vert.synchro.net> wrote:

    Do you practice either (or both)? I got into Stoicism a few years ago, but I felt like it was not complete enough. I'm currently learning about Buddhism, and I find there is a lot of overlap between the two philosophies.

    ... "It's okay. It's okay." Kim

    Not Buddhishm but Synchronicity from Bohm/Jung/Pauli/David Peat (the book is online)
    it's the closest I can think of a 'working' religion based on obscure quantum mechanic
    facts.

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  • From anthk@VERT to All on Thu Mar 20 09:56:04 2025
    On 2024-05-12, poindexter FORTRAN <REALITY!poindexter.FORTRAN@vert.synchro.net> wrote:

    unixl0rd wrote to All <=-

    Do you practice either (or both)? I got into Stoicism a few years ago, but I felt like it was not complete enough. I'm currently learning
    about Buddhism, and I find there is a lot of overlap between the two philosophies.

    I don't know if I'd call it practicing it, but I've been interested in buddhism for some time since college. I like the interconnectedness that
    it, IMO shares with hinduism - being nice to each other helps us as
    well, since we're all interconnected.

    Tim Ferris, the podcaster, talks a lot about stoicism - check him out if
    you haven't already. I downloaded Seneca's works after listening to him
    talk about it.



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    Read the book on Sinchronicity from David F.Peat. It's an eassy on the work of Jung/Pauli.
    Yes, the Physicist and the mad philosopher, they worked together.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to anthk on Sat Mar 22 11:06:48 2025
    anthk wrote to All <=-

    Not Buddhishm but Synchronicity from Bohm/Jung/Pauli/David Peat (the
    book is online) it's the closest I can think of a 'working' religion
    based on obscure quantum mechanic facts.

    Which book? Both Jung and Peat have books titled "Synchronicity"
    (different bylines...)





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  • From anthk@VERT to All on Sun Mar 23 12:39:36 2025
    On 2025-03-22, poindexter FORTRAN <REALITY!poindexter.FORTRAN@vert.synchro.net> wrote:

    anthk wrote to All <=-

    Not Buddhishm but Synchronicity from Bohm/Jung/Pauli/David Peat (the book is online) it's the closest I can think of a 'working' religion based on obscure quantum mechanic facts.

    Which book? Both Jung and Peat have books titled "Synchronicity"
    (different bylines...)





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    The one from Peat, and maybe Talbot.

    BTW, https://phys.org/news/2025-03-experimental-nonlocal-energy-quantum-memories.html


    Full text if you are lazy today:

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    An experimental test of the nonlocal energy alteration between two quantum
    memories

    by Ingrid Fadelli , Phys.org

    An experimental test of the nonlocal energy alteration between two quantum
    memories Conceptual diagram: (2+1) dimensional relativistic Bohmian
    trajectory. Credit: Dou et al.

    Quantum technologies operate by leveraging various quantum mechanical
    effects, including entanglement. Entanglement occurs when two or more
    particles share correlated states even if they are distant.

    When two particles are spin entangled, the intrinsic angular momentum
    (i.e., spin) of one particle can influence that of its entangled partner.
    This would suggest that the energy of the second particle can be altered
    via a nonlocal correlation, without enabling faster-than-light
    communication.

    Researchers at Shanghai Jiao Tong University and Hefei National Laboratory
    recently carried out a study aimed at testing this theoretical prediction
    experimentally using two quantum memories.

    Their findings, published in Physical Review Letters, appear to confirm
    the existence of nonlocal energy alterations, thus broadening the present
    understanding of quantum nonlocality.

    "When two particles are in a spin-entangled state, measuring one particle
    nonlocally influences the spin state of the other," Xian-Min Jin and Dr.
    Jian-Peng Dou, co-authors of the paper, told Phys.org.

    "This insight led us to a bold conjecture: quantum correlations could
    enable the nonlocal alteration of energy distribution in space. This
    seemingly surreal phenomenon was alluded to in the de Broglie-Bohm theory,
    yet it has neither been formally named nor experimentally tested."

    To probe the existence of the nonlocal energy alteration predicted by
    earlier theoretical works, Jin, Dr. Dou and their colleagues used two
    quantum memories, devices that can generate, store, probe and retrieve
    quantum states.

    Using these memories, they created an optical device that can separate and
    recombine a quantum system's wavefunctions to measure quantum
    interference, also known as a Mach-Zehnder interferometer.

    "We denote the Stokes photon (S1) generated during the write process of
    two quantum memories as the first particle, while the simultaneously
    generated atomic excitation serves as the second particle," explained Jin
    and Dr. Dou.

    "Since these two particles originate from the same spontaneous Raman
    scattering process, they naturally possess the quantum correlation
    required for this study."

    An experimental test of the nonlocal energy alteration between two quantum
    memories Bohmian trajectory distribution and atomic excitation alteration
    predicted by the nonlocal theoretical model. QM: Quantum memory. The wavy
    arrows indicate that energy disappears in one quantum memory and reappears
    in another, rather than representing superluminal energy transfer. Credit:
    Dou et al.

    With their experimental setup, the researchers were able to determine the
    position of the atomic excitation (i.e., serving as the second particle in
    the system) and its associated measurement. This was attained either
    through a strong measurement by performing a readout operation on the
    quantum memories, or through a weak probe-based method known as
    single-photon Raman scattering.

    "The weak probe process can be metaphorically described as follows:
    imagine an observer with obstructed vision attempting to locate the atomic
    excitation (i.e., the energy)," said Jin and Dr. Dou.

    "Each observation only slightly perturbs the quantum memory, while
    yielding blurred yet useful information about the energy's position.
    Although this information about position is imprecise, it plays a crucial
    role when combined with post-selection, allowing the verification of
    quantum correlations between past and future events."

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    Jin, Dr. Dou and his colleagues were ultimately able to predict the
    distribution of Bohm trajectories of the Stokes photon in their system, as
    well as changes in the position of the atomic excitation and associated
    conditional probabilities.

    They then compared the magnitude of the probabilities they measured, to
    verify the nonlocal nature of the de Broglie-Bohm interpretation, which is
    the theory predicting the existence of the nonlocal energy alteration they
    observed.

    "Our experimental results are consistent with the predictions of the
    nonlocal theory," said Jin and Dr. Dou. "The results imply that, in the
    framework of the de Broglie-Bohm theory, for two entangled particles, the
    energy carried by one of them can be changed from one place to another
    under the non-local influence of the other particle.

    "This is exactly the 'nonlocal energy alteration' proposed in the study.
    It is important to emphasize that the term used here is 'alteration'
    rather than 'transfer,' meaning that this process does not involve
    superluminal energy transmission (i.e., it is a nonlocal energy
    modification induced by quantum correlations)."

    The researchers' experimental exploration of quantum nonlocality from an
    energy standpoint yielded interesting results, which could inform future
    studies focusing on nonlocal energy alterations between spin entangled
    particles.

    Other physicists could soon draw inspiration from their study, using
    similar experimental methods to test the de Broglie-Bohm theory.

    "For the time being, we do not reject the probabilistic interpretation of
    quantum mechanics while supporting Bohm's theory," added Jin and Dr. Dou.

    "In this study, quantum memory exhibits unique capabilities that could
    contribute to testing fundamental problems in quantum mechanics. These
    include in-depth investigations of quantum nonlocality, delayed choice,
    the empty wave, light-speed oscillations in the interference region, and
    the intrinsic consistency between quantum mechanics and the principles of
    relativity."

    More information: Jian-Peng Dou et al, Test of Nonlocal Energy Alteration
    between Two Quantum Memories, Physical Review Letters (2025). DOI:
    10.1103/PhysRevLett.134.093601.

    Journal information: Physical Review Letters

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