• Areafix %-ALL

    From Al@VERT/TRMB to Digital Man on Sat Aug 11 11:52:06 2018
    Hello Digital Man,

    I have a couple points here that have been used for testing that I haven't used in some time so I removed them from the config here, first sending a %-All message to areafix. Those points were removed from the areas as expected.

    I also have another point here that isn't a test point, it belongs to someone who polls regularly for mail. That point was also removed from all but one area. Is it possible that removing test point 757.1 and 757.2 with %-ALL also removed the areas from 757.10?

    Ttyl :-),
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Al on Sat Aug 11 15:31:45 2018
    Re: Areafix %-ALL
    By: Al to Digital Man on Sat Aug 11 2018 11:52 am

    Hello Digital Man,

    I have a couple points here that have been used for testing that I haven't used in some time so I removed them from the config here, first sending a %-All message to areafix. Those points were removed from the areas as expected.

    I also have another point here that isn't a test point, it belongs to someone who polls regularly for mail. That point was also removed from all but one area. Is it possible that removing test point 757.1 and 757.2 with %-ALL also removed the areas from 757.10?

    It certainly shouldn't. Can you restore a backup of your area file (e.g. areas.0.bbs, auto-generated) and see if you can compare the files before/after and reproduce the problem using AreaFix (or not)?

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Digital Man on Sun Aug 12 05:17:49 2018
    Re: Areafix %-ALL
    By: Digital Man to Al on Sat Aug 11 2018 03:31 pm

    It certainly shouldn't. Can you restore a backup of your area file (e.g. areas.0.bbs, auto-generated) and see if you can compare the files before/after and reproduce the problem using AreaFix (or not)?

    I did restore his areas from the backup and asked him to check that I had done it right.

    I'll do some testing and see what I can see. Looking at sbbsecho.log it looks like it just removed .1 and .2. Not sure what happened with .10.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al


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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Digital Man on Fri Aug 17 15:10:09 2018
    Re: Areafix %-ALL
    By: Digital Man to Al on Sat Aug 11 2018 03:31 pm

    I also have another point here that isn't a test point, it belongs to
    someone who polls regularly for mail. That point was also removed from
    all but one area. Is it possible that removing test point 757.1 and
    757.2 with %-ALL also removed the areas from 757.10?

    It certainly shouldn't. Can you restore a backup of your area file (e.g. areas.0.bbs, auto-generated) and see if you can compare the files before/after and reproduce the problem using AreaFix (or not)?

    I have a different example of this happening.

    I am linked (fido) to another Synchronet system and had to reconnect 9 areas the were removed from my node at that system for unknown reasons. I asked the sysop at that system and he had no idea why that would happen. I wonder but I don't know if that was also caused by someone doing a %-All command to areafix?

    Sorry I have no idea why that happened but will do some testing here (given time) and see if I can get better information for you.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al


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  • From Bill McGarrity@VERT to Al on Fri Aug 17 18:43:00 2018
    Al wrote to Digital Man on 08-17-18 15:10 <=-

    Re: Areafix %-ALL
    By: Digital Man to Al on Sat Aug 11 2018 03:31 pm

    I also have another point here that isn't a test point, it belongs to
    someone who polls regularly for mail. That point was also removed from
    all but one area. Is it possible that removing test point 757.1 and
    757.2 with %-ALL also removed the areas from 757.10?

    It certainly shouldn't. Can you restore a backup of your area file (e.g. areas.0.bbs, auto-generated) and see if you can compare the files before/after and reproduce the problem using AreaFix (or not)?

    I have a different example of this happening.

    I am linked (fido) to another Synchronet system and had to reconnect 9 areas the were removed from my node at that system for unknown reasons.
    I asked the sysop at that system and he had no idea why that would
    happen. I wonder but I don't know if that was also caused by someone
    doing a %-All command to areafix?

    If you can give me a timeline as to when you sent the areafix requests I can look at my areas*.bbs and see the subs you were connected to.


    Sorry I have no idea why that happened but will do some testing here (given time) and see if I can get better information for you.

    As I said, I go back 10 diffferent changes so I can when and where areas were added or deleted.


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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Bill McGarrity on Fri Aug 17 19:25:19 2018
    Re: Areafix %-ALL
    By: Bill McGarrity to Al on Fri Aug 17 2018 06:43 pm

    If you can give me a timeline as to when you sent the areafix requests I can look at my areas*.bbs and see the subs you were connected to.

    One area was Z1C. I connected and never disconnected that area. I connected that area 24-48 hours before I netmailed you.

    As I said, I go back 10 diffferent changes so I can when and where areas were added or deleted.

    If you can find my node connected to Z1C and have a backup after that when I was not connected before I reconnected a short time later that will give us a good idea of the time frame we are dealing with.

    I have never done a %+All or %-All at your node. I suspect but don't know that a %-All command by another node may have removed my node as well by mistake. It looks like 757.10 was removed from his areas (except one) when I did a %-All from 757.1 or 757.2. I can't say that difinitively though since that was not logged. It just looks that way.

    Do you see any nodes doing a %-All during this time frame?

    Ttyl :-),
    Al


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Al on Sat Aug 18 01:37:22 2018
    Re: Areafix %-ALL
    By: Al to Digital Man on Fri Aug 17 2018 03:10 pm

    Re: Areafix %-ALL
    By: Digital Man to Al on Sat Aug 11 2018 03:31 pm

    I also have another point here that isn't a test point, it belongs to
    someone who polls regularly for mail. That point was also removed from
    all but one area. Is it possible that removing test point 757.1 and
    757.2 with %-ALL also removed the areas from 757.10?

    It certainly shouldn't. Can you restore a backup of your area file (e.g. areas.0.bbs, auto-generated) and see if you can compare the files before/after and reproduce the problem using AreaFix (or not)?

    I have a different example of this happening.

    I am linked (fido) to another Synchronet system and had to reconnect 9 areas the were removed from my node at that system for unknown reasons. I asked the sysop at that system and he had no idea why that would happen. I wonder but I don't know if that was also caused by someone doing a %-All command to areafix?

    Sorry I have no idea why that happened but will do some testing here (given time) and see if I can get better information for you.

    And what version of SBBSecho he/she is running...

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Digital Man on Sat Aug 18 08:53:54 2018
    Re: Areafix %-ALL
    By: Digital Man to Al on Sat Aug 18 2018 01:37 am

    Sorry I have no idea why that happened but will do some testing here
    (given time) and see if I can get better information for you.

    And what version of SBBSecho he/she is running...

    That is Bill McGarrity's node and I believe he is right up to date.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al


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  • From Bill McGarrity@VERT to Al on Sat Aug 18 20:26:00 2018
    Al wrote to Bill McGarrity on 08-17-18 19:25 <=-

    Re: Areafix %-ALL
    By: Bill McGarrity to Al on Fri Aug 17 2018 06:43 pm

    If you can give me a timeline as to when you sent the areafix requests I can look at my areas*.bbs and see the subs you were connected to.

    One area was Z1C. I connected and never disconnected that area. I connected that area 24-48 hours before I netmailed you.

    As I said, I go back 10 diffferent changes so I can when and where areas were added or deleted.

    If you can find my node connected to Z1C and have a backup after that
    when I was not connected before I reconnected a short time later that
    will give us a good idea of the time frame we are dealing with.

    I have never done a %+All or %-All at your node. I suspect but don't
    know that a %-All command by another node may have removed my node as
    well by mistake. It looks like 757.10 was removed from his areas
    (except one) when I did a %-All from 757.1 or 757.2. I can't say that difinitively though since that was not logged. It just looks that way.

    Do you see any nodes doing a %-All during this time frame?

    No one did a %-ALL during that timeframe. What you can do is do a test. First send a %query to see what you are connected to and then do a %-all, %query again and then readd the areas again manually. I thougk you're connected to about 20 now?

    Let me know when you're doing all this via netmail so I can go to the exact time in my logs.

    Thanks..


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  • From Bill McGarrity@VERT to Digital Man on Sat Aug 18 20:33:00 2018
    Digital Man wrote to Al on 08-18-18 01:37 <=-

    And what version of SBBSecho he/she is running...

    SBBSecho v3.06-Win32 (rev 3.92) - Synchronet FidoNet EchoMail Tosser


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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Bill McGarrity on Sat Aug 18 20:26:33 2018
    Re: Areafix %-ALL
    By: Bill McGarrity to Al on Sat Aug 18 2018 08:26 pm

    No one did a %-ALL during that timeframe.

    That deflates my theory.. :)

    What you can do is do a test.
    First send a %query to see what you are connected to and then do a %-all, %query again and then readd the areas again manually. I thougk you're connected to about 20 now?


    I am connected to 29 areas now and a %query confirmed that.

    Let me know when you're doing all this via netmail so I can go to the exact time in my logs.

    I'm just heading that way now and will netmail you before and after I am done.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al


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