• Kubuntu With Synchronet BBS

    From The Millionaire@VERT to All on Thursday, January 30, 2020 19:00:30
    Has anybody ever ran Kubuntu with Synchronet BBS before? By the way, they just came out a new laptop called the Kubuntu Focus. More details here: https://kfocus.org/

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to The Millionaire on Friday, January 31, 2020 05:25:23
    Has anybody ever ran Kubuntu
    with Synchronet BBS before?

    Shouldn't be much different
    than any other Ubuntu
    derivative.

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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to The Millionaire on Friday, January 31, 2020 07:46:55
    Re: Kubuntu With Synchronet BBS
    By: The Millionaire to All on Thu Jan 30 2020 19:00:30


    Has anybody ever ran Kubuntu with Synchronet BBS before?

    sure... the KDE interface is very windows-like and makes things easy to handle... it just takes more resources than some other window managers...

    FWIW: i generally recommend to not use a GUI on a server... my BBS systems are all run on Ubuntu Server installs... no GUI, CLI only... but i do understand that some folks need a GUI...


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to The Millionaire on Friday, January 31, 2020 07:56:00
    The Millionaire wrote to All <=-

    Has anybody ever ran Kubuntu with Synchronet BBS before?

    I'm sure people have. Kubuntu is no different than any other
    Linux distro, in that regard.

    By the way, they just came out a new laptop called the Kubuntu
    Focus. More details here: https://kfocus.org/

    Meh. Looks expensive and gimmicky.



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  • From Oli@VERT to Rampage on Friday, January 31, 2020 17:08:29
    31 Jan 20 07:46, you wrote to The Millionaire:

    Has anybody ever ran Kubuntu with Synchronet BBS before?

    sure... the KDE interface is very windows-like and makes things easy to
    handle...
    it just takes more resources than some other window managers...

    There is always some window manager / desktop environment that uses less resources :). To my surprise Kubuntu worked very well on an old 32-bit 2GB Thinkpad. It doesn't take more resources than Gnome, Mate or Cinnamon and not much more than LXDE. I wouldn't run it on my Raspberry with 1 GB though.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to The Millionaire on Friday, January 31, 2020 12:36:17
    Re: Kubuntu With Synchronet BBS
    By: The Millionaire to All on Thu Jan 30 2020 07:00 pm

    Has anybody ever ran Kubuntu with Synchronet BBS before? By the way, they just came out a new laptop called the Kubuntu Focus. More details here: https://kfocus.org/

    Kubuntu is literally Ubuntu with KDE. Synchronet runs on Ubuntu just fine, and should have no isses with that

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Rampage on Friday, January 31, 2020 07:15:00
    Rampage wrote to The Millionaire <=-

    FWIW: i generally recommend to not use a GUI on a server... my BBS
    systems are all run on Ubuntu Server installs... no GUI, CLI only...
    but i do understand that some folks need a GUI...

    I always liked running a low-powered WM like fvwm or twm and keeping a
    couple of running log files open in xterms. No need for a full-blown WM, though.

    At one point in my career, back when hardware was expensive, I remember my accounting manager running OpenGL screen savers on all of the Windows 2000 servers - and wondering what was hogging the CPU!


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Rampage on Friday, January 31, 2020 12:54:42
    Re: Kubuntu With Synchronet BBS
    By: Rampage to The Millionaire on Fri Jan 31 2020 07:46 am

    FWIW: i generally recommend to not use a GUI on a server... my BBS systems are all run on Ubuntu Server installs... no GUI, CLI only... but i do understand that some folks need a GUI...

    I don't think it's a big problem to run a GUI on a server, if the server has plnety of RAM and processor power to handle it. A lighter GUI can be better if you want one. I've heard some people say having more things running means a bigger attack surface for hackers, but if you're just running a server at home for a BBS or even something for personal use, it might not be such a big issue.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Oli on Friday, January 31, 2020 12:56:29
    Re: Kubuntu With Synchronet BBS
    By: Oli to Rampage on Fri Jan 31 2020 05:08 pm

    There is always some window manager / desktop environment that uses less resources :). To my surprise Kubuntu worked very well on an old 32-bit 2GB Thinkpad. It doesn't take more resources than Gnome, Mate or Cinnamon and not much more than LXDE. I wouldn't run it on my Raspberry with 1 GB though.

    I'm running Linux Mint Xfce on my BBS/Plex machine, and it seems to be running okay. I chose the Xfce version of Mint since Xfce is lighter on resources than Cinnamon. The machine I'm running it on has an Intel i5-2500 and 16GB RAM.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Gamgee on Friday, January 31, 2020 21:36:00
    Gamgee wrote to The Millionaire <=-

    By the way, they just came out a new laptop called the Kubuntu
    Focus. More details here: https://kfocus.org/

    Meh. Looks expensive and gimmicky.

    I've had great luck with a variety of Thinkpads and Dell XPS laptops running mostly Debian-based Linuxes - Dell even sells XPSes with Ubuntu pre-loaded.


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to poindexter FORTRAN on Saturday, February 01, 2020 13:30:00
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Gamgee <=-

    By the way, they just came out a new laptop called the Kubuntu
    Focus. More details here: https://kfocus.org/

    Meh. Looks expensive and gimmicky.

    I've had great luck with a variety of Thinkpads and Dell XPS
    laptops running mostly Debian-based Linuxes - Dell even sells
    XPSes with Ubuntu pre-loaded.

    Oh yes, I agree on that. I've had an XPS in the past, and have
    been using Thinkpads for years, all with Linux. I don't think
    I'll ever buy another laptop that *ISN'T* a Lenovo...

    I guess my (poorly made) point was that you don't have to buy a
    "pre-made" laptop to have it run Linux. It's all freely
    downloadable and installable on any laptop that you like. ;-)


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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Rampage on Monday, February 03, 2020 08:17:54
    Re: Kubuntu With Synchronet BBS
    By: Rampage to The Millionaire on Fri Jan 31 2020 07:46:55

    Has anybody ever ran Kubuntu with Synchronet BBS before?

    sure... the KDE interface is very windows-like and makes things easy to handle... it just takes more resources than some other window managers...

    FWIW: i generally recommend to not use a GUI on a server... my BBS
    systems are all run on Ubuntu Server installs... no GUI, CLI only... but
    i do understand that some folks need a GUI...

    Not my original post... I'd say it depends... I thought about setting it up on my desktop, so I could have a local copy working while I'm modding. Trying to keep a local git repo and my bbs sync'd currently and doing some editing in both has been interesting... mostly vscode remote ssh, so I can edit on the server... then copy paste to local repo, so I don't lose stuff.

    Not much done yet, so much more to go... Not including any ansi art, but revisiting my mods starting with answer. login is next, which will have several dependencies, then pause, etc..

    https://github.com/tracker1/roughneckbbs-mods

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Gamgee on Monday, February 03, 2020 11:52:00
    Re: Re: Kubuntu With Synchron
    By: Gamgee to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Feb 01 2020 01:30 pm

    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Gamgee <=-

    By the way, they just came out a new laptop called the Kubuntu
    Focus. More details here: https://kfocus.org/

    Meh. Looks expensive and gimmicky.

    I've had great luck with a variety of Thinkpads and Dell XPS
    laptops running mostly Debian-based Linuxes - Dell even sells
    XPSes with Ubuntu pre-loaded.

    Oh yes, I agree on that. I've had an XPS in the past, and have
    been using Thinkpads for years, all with Linux. I don't think
    I'll ever buy another laptop that *ISN'T* a Lenovo...

    I guess my (poorly made) point was that you don't have to buy a
    "pre-made" laptop to have it run Linux. It's all freely
    downloadable and installable on any laptop that you like. ;-)


    ... So... So you think you can tell.

    Something I noticed about OEM linux system is either drivers exist for everything off the shelf, or they will provide the drivers for download. If you're buying a linux ready desktop or laptop, you eliminate having to fuss with kludges and hacks to get features to work.


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Moondog on Monday, February 03, 2020 20:24:00
    Moondog wrote to Gamgee <=-

    By the way, they just came out a new laptop called the Kubuntu
    Focus. More details here: https://kfocus.org/

    Meh. Looks expensive and gimmicky.

    I've had great luck with a variety of Thinkpads and Dell XPS
    laptops running mostly Debian-based Linuxes - Dell even sells
    XPSes with Ubuntu pre-loaded.

    Oh yes, I agree on that. I've had an XPS in the past, and have
    been using Thinkpads for years, all with Linux. I don't think
    I'll ever buy another laptop that *ISN'T* a Lenovo...

    I guess my (poorly made) point was that you don't have to buy a
    "pre-made" laptop to have it run Linux. It's all freely
    downloadable and installable on any laptop that you like. ;-)

    Something I noticed about OEM linux system is either drivers
    exist for everything off the shelf, or they will provide the
    drivers for download. If you're buying a linux ready desktop or
    laptop, you eliminate having to fuss with kludges and hacks to
    get features to work.

    A decade (or more) ago, that may have been true. Nowadays, any
    Linux distro I've tried (a lot of them) have worked flawlessly on
    a wide variety of hardware that I've used.

    In other words, I think it'd be hard to find something that
    *ISN'T* Linux-ready.



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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Gamgee on Tuesday, February 04, 2020 16:57:00
    Re: Re: Kubuntu With Synchron
    By: Gamgee to Moondog on Mon Feb 03 2020 08:24 pm


    A decade (or more) ago, that may have been true. Nowadays, any
    Linux distro I've tried (a lot of them) have worked flawlessly on
    a wide variety of hardware that I've used.

    In other words, I think it'd be hard to find something that
    *ISN'T* Linux-ready.


    Fair enough. It's been a decade since I run into flakey drivers or had to jump through hoops to load a driver. Broadcomm drivers were notorious for having
    to be hunted down manually loaded after the automated installation process ended. In general, hardware has also gotten better in cheaper laptops.Regardless, you know if an OEM suggests a laptop or desktop to run lin ux on, it's probably the model they had the least headaches with.

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Gamgee on Wednesday, February 05, 2020 13:03:00
    On 02-03-20 20:24, Gamgee wrote to Moondog <=-

    A decade (or more) ago, that may have been true. Nowadays, any
    Linux distro I've tried (a lot of them) have worked flawlessly on
    a wide variety of hardware that I've used.

    That's been my experience of late. Most I've had to do in recent times with randomly selected hardware is allow the installation of "non free" drivers

    In other words, I think it'd be hard to find something that
    *ISN'T* Linux-ready.

    True!


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