• 2038

    From The Millionaire@VERT to All on Saturday, February 08, 2020 11:18:11
    Why will the year 2038 be the next bug for bbses?

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  • From Gamgee@VERT to The Millionaire on Saturday, February 08, 2020 14:04:00
    The Millionaire wrote to All <=-

    Why will the year 2038 be the next bug for bbses?

    Is that the year you're going to actually start your BBS?



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Saturday, February 08, 2020 13:06:35
    Re: 2038
    By: The Millionaire to All on Sat Feb 08 2020 11:18 am

    Why will the year 2038 be the next bug for bbses?

    Whoever said that?

    Nightfox

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Nightfox on Saturday, February 08, 2020 14:07:25
    Re: 2038
    By: The Millionaire to All on Sat Feb 08 2020 11:18 am

    Whoever said that?

    Nightfox

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem

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  • From Grease@VERT/DARKMATT to The Millionaire on Saturday, February 08, 2020 16:22:54
    Re: 2038
    By: The Millionaire to All on Sat Feb 08 2020 11:18 am

    Why will the year 2038 be the next bug for bbses?

    I'll bite. It has to do with the calendar for 32bit linux operating systems. If you are 64, it shouldn't affect you.

    The latest time that can be represented in Unix's signed 32-bit integer time format is 03:14:07 on Tuesday, 19 January 2038 (231-1 = 2,147,483,647 seconds after 1 January 1970).[1] Times beyond that cause signed integer overflow, which is an example of C's undefined behavior

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  • From Gamgee@VERT to Netsurge on Saturday, February 08, 2020 22:36:00
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    Is that the year you're going to actually start your BBS?

    It might be the year he decides what bbs or OS to use.

    Heh. I'll put my money on Mystic/Windoze.



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  • From Netsurge@VERT to Gamgee on Saturday, February 08, 2020 22:38:28
    Is that the year you're going to actually start your BBS?

    It might be the year he decides what bbs or OS to use.

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Netsurge on Sunday, February 09, 2020 06:23:07
    It might be the year he decides what bbs or OS to use.

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    I'll probably be dead most likely by then.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Gamgee on Sunday, February 09, 2020 07:49:00
    Gamgee wrote to The Millionaire <=-

    The Millionaire wrote to All <=-

    Why will the year 2038 be the next bug for bbses?

    Is that the year you're going to actually start your BBS?

    BooM!


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  • From Ragnarok@VERT/DOCKSUD to The Millionaire on Sunday, February 09, 2020 14:06:47
    El 9/2/20 a las 11:27, The Millionaire escribió:
    1: Windows
    2: OSX
    3: Linux


    GNU/Linux

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to digital man on Sunday, February 09, 2020 12:41:38
    Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: The Millionaire to on Sun Feb 09 2020 06:27 am

    hey i have millionaire filtered via twitlist but still seeing his
    voting questions.

    has this been corrected already? i havent updated in a while.
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Sunday, February 09, 2020 11:51:11
    Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: MRO to digital man on Sun Feb 09 2020 12:41 pm

    Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: The Millionaire to on Sun Feb 09 2020 06:27 am

    hey i have millionaire filtered via twitlist but still seeing his
    voting questions.

    has this been corrected already? i havent updated in a while.

    Probably not. I've added it to the todo list to look at.

    digital man

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Digital Man on Sunday, February 09, 2020 15:58:25
    Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: MRO to digital man on Sun Feb 09 2020 12:41 pm

    Probably not. I've added it to the todo list to look at.

    digital man

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    So I guess I'm on everyone's twitlist including yours as well? Is that the
    case here?

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Digital Man on Sunday, February 09, 2020 15:59:51
    Why was my poll deleted? I thought it was a good one.

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  • From Ragnarok@VERT/DOCKSUD to The Millionaire on Sunday, February 09, 2020 23:17:48
    El 9/2/20 a las 20:59, The Millionaire escribió:
    Why was my poll deleted? I thought it was a good one.

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  • From Netsurge@VERT to The Millionaire on Monday, February 10, 2020 00:06:08
    So I guess I'm on everyone's twitlist including yours as well? Is
    that the case here?

    Not everyone. I enjoy the comedy of errors you bring to this and other echos.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Sunday, February 09, 2020 22:51:13
    Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Feb 09 2020 03:58 pm

    So I guess I'm on everyone's twitlist including yours as well? Is that the case here?

    Not everyone's.

    Nightfox

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  • From Oli@VERT to Ragnarok on Monday, February 10, 2020 12:38:49
    09 Feb 20 14:06, you wrote to The Millionaire:

    El 9/2/20 a las 11:27, The Millionaire escribió:
    1: Windows
    2: OSX
    3: Linux


    GNU/Linux

    My Linux boots just fine without GNU.

    Quote:
    'calling Linux in general "GNU Linux" I think is just ridiculous'


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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Netsurge on Monday, February 10, 2020 06:28:00
    Not everyone. I enjoy the comedy of errors you bring to this and other echos.

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    Well ha ha. The joke's on you then.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Oli on Monday, February 10, 2020 07:55:00
    Oli wrote to Ragnarok <=-

    El 9/2/20 a las 11:27, The Millionaire escribiş:
    1: Windows
    2: OSX
    3: Linux

    GNU/Linux

    My Linux boots just fine without GNU.

    So does mine.

    Quote:
    'calling Linux in general "GNU Linux" I think is just ridiculous'

    Wow, we actually agree on something.


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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to The Millionaire on Monday, February 10, 2020 10:06:44
    Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Feb 09 2020 15:59:51


    Why was my poll deleted? I thought it was a good one.

    what poll are you talking about? i just voted in the "which OS" one...


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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Rampage on Monday, February 10, 2020 08:16:12
    Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Feb 09 2020 15:59:51

    what poll are you talking about? i just voted in the "which OS" one...

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    The OS poll I posted in Synchronet Discussion yesterday has mysteriously vanished from plain sight unless it got moved to a different area. But I highly doubt it though.

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  • From Dan Cross@VERT to Ragnarok on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 05:52:06
    On 09 Feb 2020 at 02:06p, Ragnarok pondered and said...

    GNU/Linux

    That was a construction by Stallman that was based entirely
    on inaccuracies. His contention is that Linux owes a great
    debt of gratitude to the GNU project for ... something. But
    "Linux" refers to the kernel, not the userspace, and that
    owes far more to Andy Tannenbaum and the 1127 crew at BTL
    than to GNU or RMS.

    Now particular distributions of "Linux" that contain a GNU
    userland arguably owe something to the GNU project. But
    Linux itself, which again is simply the kernel, does not.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Monday, February 10, 2020 11:28:17
    Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Mon Feb 10 2020 08:16 am

    The OS poll I posted in Synchronet Discussion yesterday has mysteriously vanished from plain sight unless it got moved to a different area. But I highly doubt it though.

    I saw the poll. It may have been deleted on Vertrauen after other BBSes polled and already got it.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dan Cross on Monday, February 10, 2020 11:29:27
    Re: Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: Dan Cross to Ragnarok on Tue Feb 11 2020 05:52 am

    GNU/Linux

    That was a construction by Stallman that was based entirely
    on inaccuracies. His contention is that Linux owes a great
    debt of gratitude to the GNU project for ... something. But
    "Linux" refers to the kernel, not the userspace, and that
    owes far more to Andy Tannenbaum and the 1127 crew at BTL
    than to GNU or RMS.

    Now particular distributions of "Linux" that contain a GNU
    userland arguably owe something to the GNU project. But
    Linux itself, which again is simply the kernel, does not.

    Maybe he thinks the GNU tools included with many Linux distros helped popularize Linux?

    Nightfox

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  • From Netsurge@VERT to The Millionaire on Monday, February 10, 2020 16:21:02
    Well ha ha. The joke's on you then.

    Is it?

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  • From Dan Cross@VERT to Nightfox on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 10:41:43
    On 10 Feb 2020 at 11:29a, Nightfox pondered and said...

    Maybe he thinks the GNU tools included with many Linux distros helped popularize Linux?

    I'm sure he does. That doesn't mean that Linux itself (the kernel)
    owes anything to GNU.

    For that matter, RMS owes much to AT&T Bell Labs and BSD for creating
    the system he modeled his GNU utilities off of. He personally owes a
    great deal to Dennis Ritchie for designing C, which he both wrote much
    of the GNU utilities in, and for which he created a compiler (GCC;
    originally the "GNU C Compiler" before it was the "GNU Compiler
    Collection"). Perhaps we should call GNU Unix/GNU?

    Nah, that'd be silly. :-D

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to The Millionaire on Monday, February 10, 2020 14:28:26
    Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Feb 09 2020 03:58 pm


    Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: MRO to digital man on Sun Feb 09 2020 12:41 pm

    Probably not. I've added it to the todo list to look at.

    So I guess I'm on everyone's twitlist including yours as well? Is that the case here?

    You're not in my twitlist, no.

    digital man

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to The Millionaire on Monday, February 10, 2020 14:40:26
    Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Feb 09 2020 03:59 pm

    Why was my poll deleted? I thought it was a good one.

    I don't recall deleting any polls.

    digital man

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Dan Cross on Monday, February 10, 2020 14:43:33
    Re: Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: Dan Cross to Nightfox on Tue Feb 11 2020 10:41 am

    I'm sure he does. That doesn't mean that Linux itself (the kernel)
    owes anything to GNU.

    Well there is the compiler...

    digital man

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Dan Cross on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 09:19:00
    On 02-11-20 10:41, Dan Cross wrote to Nightfox <=-

    Collection"). Perhaps we should call GNU Unix/GNU?

    Haha that's funny, given that GNU stands for "GNU's not Unix"> :D


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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Digital Man on Monday, February 10, 2020 17:41:23
    Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Feb 09 2020 03:59 pm

    I don't recall deleting any polls.

    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #1:
    ANSI = American National Standards Institute
    Norco, CA WX: 67.4°F, 26.0% humidity, 5 mph S wind, 0.04 inches rain/24hrs



    Well I wrote one yesterday in Synchronet discussion and now it's vanished.

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Digital Man on Monday, February 10, 2020 17:42:43
    Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Feb 09 2020 03:58 pm

    You're not in my twitlist, no.

    digital man

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #12:
    Synchronet was the first BBS software to ship with built-in RIPscrip support. Norco, CA WX: 66.9°F, 27.0% humidity, 12 mph SSE wind, 0.04 inches
    rain/24hrs


    Well at least you like me. That's good to hear.

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Digital Man on Monday, February 10, 2020 17:50:12
    Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Feb 09 2020 03:59 pm

    I don't recall deleting any polls.

    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #1:
    ANSI = American National Standards Institute
    Norco, CA WX: 67.4°F, 26.0% humidity, 5 mph S wind, 0.04 inches rain/24hrs


    Well I made another poll and I took screenshots for evidence. If it disappears this time.

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Digital Man on Monday, February 10, 2020 18:10:29
    Anonymous
    9 Feb

    To: The Millionaire

    In article <5E409CA1...@vert.synchro.net>
    "The Millionaire" <the.millionaire@vert.synchro.net.remove-nwd-this> wrote:


    So I guess I'm on everyone's twitlist including yours as well? Is that
    the
    case here?


    You guessed it. LOL

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  • From Gamgee@VERT to The Millionaire on Monday, February 10, 2020 20:30:00
    The Millionaire wrote to Digital Man <=-

    You're not in my twitlist, no.

    digital man

    Well at least you like me. That's good to hear.

    Well.................. he didn't actually say that.

    He said you weren't in his twitlist.



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  • From Gamgee@VERT to The Millionaire on Monday, February 10, 2020 20:30:00
    The Millionaire wrote to Digital Man <=-

    I don't recall deleting any polls.

    digital man

    Well I made another poll and I took screenshots for evidence. If
    it disappears this time.

    If it disappears this time.... what will happen?


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  • From Dan Cross@VERT to Digital Man on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 16:00:27
    On 10 Feb 2020 at 02:43p, Digital Man pondered and said...

    I'm sure he does. That doesn't mean that Linux itself (the kernel) owes anything to GNU.

    Well there is the compiler...

    I'm not even sure how relevant _that_ is. When Torvalds started
    writing Linux, he could have used Tanenbaum's compiler from the ACK.
    Now days, the cool kids are working on getting Linux to build with
    clang and LLVM. :-)

    GCC will, perhaps sadly, be relegated to the dustbin of history,
    just like pcc before it. Part of that is Stallman's intransigence
    about organizing it internally so that people can build tools with
    gcc. For example, he doesn't want the front-ends decoupled from
    the rest in a meaningful way so that it could be embedded into e.g.
    IDE's or things like language servers, because that _might_ tempt
    someone using into GCC with non-free software. It's an extreme
    position. (GCC also does trivial constant folding in the compiler
    front-end, so the AST you get out of it is not a faithful
    representation of the text source.)

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dan Cross on Monday, February 10, 2020 21:15:57
    Re: Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: Dan Cross to Digital Man on Tue Feb 11 2020 04:00 pm

    Well there is the compiler...

    I'm not even sure how relevant _that_ is. When Torvalds started
    writing Linux, he could have used Tanenbaum's compiler from the ACK.
    Now days, the cool kids are working on getting Linux to build with
    clang and LLVM. :-)

    GCC will, perhaps sadly, be relegated to the dustbin of history,

    I've heard of LLVM, but I don't have much experience with it. Is LLVM an entirely new compiler, separate from GCC?

    Nightfox

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to The Millionaire on Monday, February 10, 2020 23:19:13
    Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Feb 09 2020 03:58 pm

    So I guess I'm on everyone's twitlist including yours as well? Is that the case here?

    Nope, I don't have my twit list set up and don't plan to.

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Denn on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 21:56:00
    On 02-10-20 23:19, Denn wrote to The Millionaire <=-

    Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Feb 09 2020 03:58 pm

    So I guess I'm on everyone's twitlist including yours as well? Is that the case here?

    Nope, I don't have my twit list set up and don't plan to.

    Neither do I.


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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Denn on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 06:28:11
    Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Feb 09 2020 03:58 pm

    Nope, I don't have my twit list set up and don't plan to.

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    Thanks Denn.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Tony Langdon on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 06:28:42
    Neither do I.

    ... If(crash){grab_ankles();kiss_butt_goodbye();}
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    Thanks Tony.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Mortifis@VERT/ALLEYCAT to MRO on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 10:59:15
    Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: The Millionaire to on Sun Feb 09 2020 06:27 am

    hey i have millionaire filtered via twitlist but still seeing his
    voting questions.

    has this been corrected already? i havent updated in a while.

    I suppose, as sentient being, you could employ your own 'twistlist' and simply ignore and not open any posts/replies from Millionaire :-P

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  • From Mortifis@VERT/ALLEYCAT to The Millionaire on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 11:01:38
    Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Feb 09 2020 03:58 pm

    You're not in my twitlist, no.

    digital man

    Well at least you like me. That's good to hear.

    $ The Millionaire $

    If DM can put up with me I am sure he can put up with just about anyone :-P

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  • From Mortifis@VERT/ALLEYCAT to The Millionaire on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 11:15:49
    1: Windows
    2: OSX
    3: Linux


    I see 1000 replies to this original question of a few days ago and I am not going to read every one of them, so, if I repeat some stuff ... my preference depends ... depends on how I want/need to interact with SBBS for any specific reason ... to just monitor activity, I prefer winblows because the sbbsctrl is the most robust under that environment; plus, certainly, the intsallation and configuration wizard in windows is easier ... I haven't used SBBS with OSX, but, I used to use OS2 SBBSv2.+ using the virtual comports that allowed for telnet ... as for Linux ... that is too vague, as there are myriads of Linux flavors and they are not all the same ie: GNU/Linux Slackware, Debian, Centos OS, RH, Fedora, *BSD, etc are all very different at the CLI level ... over the years I have used SBBS under Slackware as it compiles cleanly, but Slackware is not an easy OS to keep updated ... just my nickles worth

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  • From Dan Cross@VERT to Nightfox on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 06:41:12
    On 10 Feb 2020 at 09:15p, Nightfox pondered and said...

    I've heard of LLVM, but I don't have much experience with it. Is LLVM an entirely new compiler, separate from GCC?

    Yup. Well, LLVM isn't exactly the compiler, but that's close
    enough for government work.

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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to The Millionaire on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 13:31:51
    Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Mon Feb 10 2020 17:42:43

    Well at least you like me. That's good to hear.

    That's a bit of a leap, but then you're given to splitting, as is common among simpletons.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Dan Cross on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 13:13:00
    Re: Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: Dan Cross to Ragnarok on Tue Feb 11 2020 05:52 am

    That was a construction by Stallman that was based entirely
    on inaccuracies. His contention is that Linux owes a great
    debt of gratitude to the GNU project for ... something. But
    "Linux" refers to the kernel, not the userspace, and that
    owes far more to Andy Tannenbaum and the 1127 crew at BTL
    than to GNU or RMS.

    Stallman is a creepy peice of shit. I'm honestly surprised he didn't put some sort of GNU naming convention requirement in the GPL.

    DaiTengu

    ... Gravity doesn`t exist: the earth sucks.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to The Millionaire on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 13:16:36
    Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: The Millionaire to on Sun Feb 09 2020 06:27 am

    1: Windows [0 0.00%]
    2: OSX [0 0.00%]
    3: Linux [0 0.00%]

    To vote in this poll, press V now.


    Your poll is here. still. The problem is it wasn't addressed to "All" and showed up on my system with a blank "To" field.

    I think it's a PEBCAK error

    or maybe an ID-10-T error.

    DaiTengu

    ... Go on, be yourself! There isn't anyone better qualified.

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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to The Millionaire on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 15:01:50
    Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Mon Feb 10 2020 17:41:23


    Well I wrote one yesterday in Synchronet discussion and now it's vanished.

    i don't think it has... i just hit Vert as a guest via the web server and the poll you did with three OS choices is still there... message 9334 and subject of "poll"...

    [edit]

    oops... that's the new one you did... the other one was 9276 which does seem to be missing on vert...

    ----- snip -----

    http://vert.synchro.net/msgs/msg.ssjs?msg_sub=sync&message=9276

    ERROR!
    smb_getmsgidx msg 9276 not found

    ----- snip -----

    it didn't make it through the gateway to the fidonet side, either...

    here's the headers of it from the QWK side on my system, though...

    ----- snip -----

    Sender The Millionaire
    Subject Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS? SenderNetAddr VERT
    SenderNetType QWKnet
    Message-ID <5E4016C8.9276.sync@vert.synchro.net>
    PollAnswer Windows
    PollAnswer OSX
    PollAnswer Linux
    X-FTN-PID Synchronet 3.17c-Linux Jan 24 2020 GCC 7.4.0
    when_written 5E3FEC98 41E0 Sun Feb 09 2020 06:27:20 PST
    when_imported 5E401A3A 412C Sun Feb 09 2020 09:42:02 EST

    ----- snip -----

    )\/(ark

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Rampage on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 14:48:47
    Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Mon Feb 10 2020 17:41:23

    i don't think it has... i just hit Vert as a guest via the web server and the poll you did with three OS choices is still there... message 9334 and subject of "poll"...

    [edit]

    oops... that's the new one you did... the other one was 9276 which does seem to be missing on vert...

    ----- snip -----

    http://vert.synchro.net/msgs/msg.ssjs?msg_sub=sync&message=9276

    ERROR!
    smb_getmsgidx msg 9276 not found

    ----- snip -----

    it didn't make it through the gateway to the fidonet side, either...

    here's the headers of it from the QWK side on my system, though...

    ----- snip -----

    Sender The Millionaire
    Subject Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS? SenderNetAddr VERT
    SenderNetType QWKnet
    Message-ID <5E4016C8.9276.sync@vert.synchro.net>
    PollAnswer Windows
    PollAnswer OSX
    PollAnswer Linux
    X-FTN-PID Synchronet 3.17c-Linux Jan 24 2020 GCC 7.4.0
    when_written 5E3FEC98 41E0 Sun Feb 09 2020 06:27:20 PST
    when_imported 5E401A3A 412C Sun Feb 09 2020 09:42:02 EST

    ----- snip -----

    )\/(ark

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    Weird! Maybe a bug? I used Ecweb's Voting System. Worked on other areas
    though.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to The Millionaire on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 14:52:13
    Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Mon Feb 10 2020 05:41 pm


    Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Feb 09 2020 03:59 pm

    I don't recall deleting any polls.

    Well I wrote one yesterday in Synchronet discussion and now it's vanished.

    It's possibly a bug. I didn't delete any polls.

    digital man

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #23:
    David St. Hubbins: I envy us.
    Norco, CA WX: 68.7°F, 11.0% humidity, 10 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Digital Man on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 14:54:29
    Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Mon Feb 10 2020 05:41 pm

    It's possibly a bug. I didn't delete any polls.

    digital man

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #23:
    David St. Hubbins: I envy us.
    Norco, CA WX: 68.7°F, 11.0% humidity, 10 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs



    Also the votes have been reset for a lot of messages as well. Another bug?

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to DaiTengu on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 16:14:55
    Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: DaiTengu to The Millionaire on Tue Feb 11 2020 01:16 pm

    Your poll is here. still. The problem is it wasn't addressed to "All" and showed up on my system with a blank "To" field.

    I think it's a PEBCAK error

    No, actually I think that's how polls work in Synchronet. Whenever someone posts a poll, I've noticed they all seem to have a blank "To" field.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 16:18:52
    Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Tue Feb 11 2020 02:48 pm

    Weird! Maybe a bug? I used Ecweb's Voting System. Worked on other areas though.

    Ecweb just provides an interface to Synchronet's voting system; ecweb doesn't have its own independent voting system.

    Nightfox

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    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to The Millionaire on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 15:45:10
    Not on it here.


    -=Thumper=-
    Sysop
    The Wastelands BBS

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to The Millionaire on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 12:26:00
    On 02-11-20 06:28, The Millionaire wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Neither do I.

    ... If(crash){grab_ankles();kiss_butt_goodbye();}
    === MultiMail/Win v0.51
    --- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)


    Thanks Tony.

    No problem. I have since been forced to reconsider setting up the twit filter, because of a very abusive person elsewhere, though it seems that person has gone away. Maybe the originating sysop decided to boot them, in which case, I'll be back to not worrying about twit filters.


    ... Being seven points behind gives you a definite psychological advantage.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Mortifis on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 21:55:11
    Re: Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: Mortifis to MRO on Tue Feb 11 2020 10:59 am

    Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: The Millionaire to on Sun Feb 09 2020 06:27 am

    hey i have millionaire filtered via twitlist but still seeing his
    voting questions.

    has this been corrected already? i havent updated in a while.

    I suppose, as sentient being, you could employ your own 'twistlist' and simp ignore and not open any posts/replies from Millionaire :-P

    that's what i was saying.

    i have him in my twitlist but when he votes it still goes through.
    i have no choice but to see them when reading msgs on my bbs.
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    ■ Synchronet ■ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Tony Langdon on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 05:14:07
    No problem. I have since been forced to reconsider setting up the twit filter, because of a very abusive person elsewhere, though it seems that person has gone away. Maybe the originating sysop decided to boot them, in which case, I'll be back to not worrying about twit filters.

    ... Being seven points behind gives you a definite psychological advantage. === MultiMail/Win v0.51
    --- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)


    Oh by the way, G'day Mate from Down Under.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 09:51:57
    Re: Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: The Millionaire to Tony Langdon on Wed Feb 12 2020 05:14 am

    Oh by the way, G'day Mate from Down Under.

    I thought you lived in Canada. Did you move to Australia? Or is that where you've lived all along? Maybe I remembered wrong.

    Nightfox

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to The Millionaire on Thursday, February 13, 2020 07:24:00
    On 02-12-20 05:14, The Millionaire wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Oh by the way, G'day Mate from Down Under.

    Hehe thanks. :)


    ... We got a situation where someone's got a button connected to a bomb!
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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Nightfox on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 14:30:23
    Re: Re: Which OS would you prefer running with Synchronet BBS?
    By: The Millionaire to Tony Langdon on Wed Feb 12 2020 05:14 am

    I thought you lived in Canada. Did you move to Australia? Or is that where you've lived all along? Maybe I remembered wrong.

    Nightfox

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    Yes I do live in Canada but found out Tony was from Australia and decided to greet him Aussie style.

    $ The Millionaire $

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