• This is Discouraging

    From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to All on Fri Jul 16 06:15:00 2021
    I'm doing what I can to keep three cooking echoes alive. But, with no
    one else posting for the past few I'm beginning to wonder if it's all
    worth it or is it almost over.

    On a more upbeat note - I have a friend who is allergic to tomatoes -
    but, oddly not to peppers (capsicum annum) which are in the nightshade
    family. Anyway this recipe fell into my view - so I grabbed it, MMed it
    and e-mailed it to him. Apparently I hit a home run. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: No Tomato Pasta Sauce (No Mato Sauce)
    Categories: Vegetables, Herbs, Potatoes
    Yield: 6 cups

    1 lg Onion; chopped
    4 cl Garlic; chopped
    1 c Carrots; in 1/2" pieces
    2 md Sweet potatoes; diced (4 c)
    3 tb Fresh lemon juice
    1 tb Balsamic vinegar
    Salt & fresh black pepper
    1 Roasted red pepper; opt
    1/3 c Extra virgin olive oil
    8 oz Can beets
    1 tb Cornstarch

    MMMMM----------------------OPTIONAL HERBS----------------------------
    1/3 c Basil; chopped or whole,
    - Fresh is better, if using
    - dried, 2-3 tbsp
    1/3 c Parsley; chopped or whole,
    - Fresh is better, if using
    - dried, 2-3 tbsp
    3 tb Oregano; chopped or whole
    - fresh is better, if using
    - dried, 2-3 tsp

    PREPARE TOMATO FREE SAUCE: In a large stock pot, saute
    the onion and garlic in a little olive oil until just
    starting to brown.

    Add the carrots, diced sweet potatoes, lemon juice,
    balsamic vinegar, salt and pepper then cover (barely)
    with water.

    Bring to a boil then lower the heat and simmer (covered)
    for 20-30 minutes until the carrots and sweet potatoes
    are very soft. Add the roasted red pepper if using. (I
    have read that many people who can't eat tomatoes also
    can't eat red peppers since they are in the same
    biological family.) You don't need to substitute if
    leaving out and if you add more than one they may over
    power the final sauce.

    Blend the contents of the pot until smooth (in batches
    in a blender or with an immersion blender). Add the
    olive oil during the blending.

    The cornstarch in step 6 will thicken up the sauce
    slightly so don't worry if it is a little runny. If the
    sauce is too thick already, add some water, if too runny
    simmer it awhile to thicken (cover the pot but leave the
    lid askew).

    If you boil your meatballs/sausage in the sauce, I would
    add them here as well.

    Puree the contents of the can of beets (liquid included)
    and the cornstarch in a blender until very smooth (if
    only using for pasta sauce, to save some chopping you
    can add the fresh herbs here as well!)

    Add the beet mixture back to the pot and simmer for
    about five more minutes.

    If using for more than pasta sauce, portion out what you
    need and then add a prorated amount of chopped herbs to
    the remaining sauce.

    RECIPE FROM: https://keeprecipes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Fri Jul 16 12:31:49 2021
    Hello Dave,

    Friday July 16 2021 06:15, you wrote to All:

    I'm doing what I can to keep three cooking echoes alive. But, with no
    one else posting for the past few I'm beginning to wonder if it's all worth it or is it almost over.

    There is a break in the mail still somewhere, I think. I can't be sure but the sudden dropoff in messages is not normal.

    Unfortunately, unless people start posting and telling me there's issues, I can't do much to investigate as moderator.

    -- Sean

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Dave Drum on Fri Jul 16 08:06:00 2021
    Dave Drum wrote to All <=-

    I'm doing what I can to keep three cooking echoes alive. But, with no
    one else posting for the past few I'm beginning to wonder if it's all worth it or is it almost over.

    Would it make sense to consolidate the echoes into one? Fidonet doesn't have the traffic to support the number of echoes it used to.

    As someone who's dabbled in these cooking echoes for a while, I appreciate
    the discussions about food, food culture, restaurants and cooking as much as the recipes. Surely there'd be enough traffic for that?




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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Dave Drum on Sat Jul 17 01:06:00 2021
    On 07-16-21 06:15, Dave Drum <=-
    spoke to All about This is Discouraging <=-


    I'm doing what I can to keep three cooking echoes alive. But, with no
    one else posting for the past few I'm beginning to wonder if it's all worth it or is it almost over.

    I know what you mean. Traffic in COOKING has dropped off severely in
    the past few months. The problem with DOCs not getting some of our mail
    has hurt. I believe that he has fixed his feed by going back to Janis.
    [Jim Weller -- did you get this message?]
    We have lost two influential and prolific posters. Each person who
    leaves (or dies) cuts down on the traffic double -- because in addition
    to their posts, there are posts of people responding to them.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: CHICKEN AND PEPERONATA ON GRILLED BREAD
    Categories: Italian, Sandwiches
    Yield: 4 Sandwiches

    2 Chicken breasts
    1/2 c Water
    Salt
    Freshly ground black pepper
    4 Sprigs rosemary
    2 tb Extra-virgin olive oil
    pn Hot red pepper flakes
    1 sm Onion, sliced
    1 Red bell pepper, cored,
    -seeded and cut into thick
    -strips
    1 Yellow bell pepper, cored,
    -seeded and cut into thick
    -strips
    Sugar to taste (opt; ~1 ts)
    6 Oil-cured black olives,
    -pitted and cut in half
    1 tb Capers
    8 lg Thin slices crusty bread
    2 Garlic cloves, peeled and
    -cut in half
    8 Very fresh basil leaves,
    -chopped

    Place chicken breasts skin side up in a medium saute pan and add
    water. Season chicken with salt and pepper, and place herb sprigs
    over chicken. Cook, covered, over medium low heat for 15-20 minutes.
    Turn off heat and let cool in pan.

    In a medium saute pan, add olive oil, hot red pepper flakes and onion.
    Saute over medium-low heat for about 8 minutes, stirring often. Add
    peppers and continue to cook, covered, until peppers are tender.
    Toward end of cooking, stir in olives and capers. Season with salt
    and pepper.

    When chicken can be handled, remove skin and bones and any fat or
    cartilage. Separate each breast into 3 fillets. Cut diagonally again
    into 1/2" thick pieces.

    Toast bread on both sides. Very lightly rub one side of each slice of
    bread with cut garlic cloves. Lay out 4 slices of bread. Arrange
    chicken on top of bread. Top with pepper mixture, then basil. Cover
    with remaining 4 slices of bread. Submitted By MICHAEL ORCHEKOWSKI On
    08-10-95

    MMMMM


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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Kurt Weiske on Sat Jul 17 01:15:02 2021
    On 07-16-21 08:06, Kurt Weiske <=-
    spoke to Dave Drum about Re: This is Discouraging <=-

    Would it make sense to consolidate the echoes into one? Fidonet
    doesn't have the traffic to support the number of echoes it used to.

    As someone who's dabbled in these cooking echoes for a while, I
    appreciate the discussions about food, food culture, restaurants and cooking as much as the recipes. Surely there'd be enough traffic for that?

    Two of the echos that Dave mentioned are essentially the same in
    content. For both of them, he is usually the only poster. They are
    recipes that Dave has found and prepared for posting -- so if you want
    recipes, subscribe to HOME_COOKING as well as COOKING. Although COOKING
    has some recipes, its main focus is conversation.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Italian Sausage Pizzaiola
    Categories: Italian, Sausage, Sandwiches, Mushrooms, Cheese
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1/4 c Onions; chopped
    4 tb Fresh basil; chopped
    6 Plum tomatoes; quartered
    1/2 lb Mushrooms; sliced
    Salt
    Freshly ground black pepper
    4 tb Romano cheese; grated
    1 Red bell pepper; roasted,
    -skinned and chopped
    1/2 ts Italian seasoning
    1 lb Italian sweet sausage,
    Skin removed
    8 sm French sour dough rolls or
    4 lg Ones
    2 ts Olive oil
    6 oz Jar marinated artichokes
    8 Kalamata olives; pitted and
    -chopped
    2 cl Garlic; chopped

    Brown sausage slowly, rendering as much grease as possible. Submerge
    sausage in boiling water for 10-15 seconds to allow more grease to
    float away. Saute mushrooms, onions, red pepper, artichoke hearts,
    olives, garlic in olive oil until crisp-tender, about 3-4 minutes.
    Add tomatoes, Italian seasoning, basil and sausage. Reduce heat and
    simmer until it is of the right consistency. Add salt & pepper to
    taste.

    Meanwhile, cut tops off rolls and hollow them out. Then place in
    350F oven for a few minutes until crusts are crisp. Fill each roll
    with sausage/vegetable mixture. Sprinkle Romano atop each roll and
    place under broiler just until cheese starts to melt. Serve this
    alongside a green salad with Italian dressing and a glass of
    Bardolino or Chianti.

    If you make your own Italian dressing, save the artichoke marinade
    to mix into the dressing.

    From: Bill Lawrie

    (I disagree with boiling the sausage and discarding the grease of
    course- JW)

    MMMMM



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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Kurt Weiske on Sat Jul 17 00:33:03 2021
    Hello Kurt,

    Friday July 16 2021 08:06, you wrote to Dave Drum:

    As someone who's dabbled in these cooking echoes for a while, I
    appreciate the discussions about food, food culture, restaurants and cooking as much as the recipes. Surely there'd be enough traffic for
    that?

    <soapbox>
    A large percentage of the problem is that most of the active users of this echo use a particular BBS that is having difficulty with its Fidonet feed right now. There have been offers of other sysops offering up their systems for use but none of the users have taken up on the offers so the echo traffic suffers for it.

    Yes, new blood would be great in here but I don't see it happening (much). If people in Fidonet spent as much time posting in other echoes as they do sniping at each other in the Fidonet admin echoes, this network might be better for it.
    </soapbox>

    As for the recipes, the rule has been, as long as I've been in here and that was starting in 1996, that only up to 20 recipes could be posted at once. The RECIPES echo is for mass posting of RECIPES; a secondary echo to this one.

    That being said, I would -much- prefer quality over quantity in here and that's not just from a moderator's point of view.

    I am working on moving my personal computer back to Linux and once that is done, I have nearly 250,000 recipes to import into Meal-Master; when it runs under DOSemu, it flies. Thanks to the generosity of the members of this echo and my own scraping of the Internet, I'll have enough recipes for the rest of my life. <G>

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Chicken and Potato Casserole
    Categories: Main dish, Seandennis
    Yield: 5 Servings

    1 Box au gratin potatoes
    2 c Boiling water
    3/4 c Milk
    2 T Butter or margarine
    1 Can (10 3/4 oz) cream of
    - mushroom soup, undiluted
    1 c Diced cooked chicken
    1 c Cooked peas
    1/4 c Chopped pimiento (optional)

    Preheat oven to 400 degrees F.

    In a 2-quart casserole dish, combine potatoes and sauce mix. Stir in
    boiling water, milk, and butter. Stir in soup. Gently mix in
    chicken, peas, and pimientos. Bake uncovered for 45 minutes or until
    potatoes are tender. Let stand a few minutes and serve.

    From:
    A recipe on the side of a box of au gratin potatoes

    MM'd by Sean Dennis on 19 June 2011.

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

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  • From JIM WELLER@1:135/392 to DAVE DRUM on Fri Jul 16 20:50:00 2021

    Quoting Dave Drum to All <=-

    I'm doing what I can to keep three cooking echoes alive.

    Two of them are dead. This one is on life support.

    with no one else posting for the past few I'm beginning to
    wonder if it's all worth it or is it almost over.

    I appreciate what you're trying to do. I am doing the same on a
    smaller scale with my cross Canada iconic foods thread. But
    robot-like recipe posts without any back and forth real dialogue is
    a lost cause.

    FIDO has been shrinking since 1994 when the internet became more
    widely available. When Yahoo groups, which used to be huge, shut
    down Facebook Groups mushroomed. It has hundreds of food groups;
    I'm on 2 of them, all I have time for. The largest one is now up to
    28,000 members with a few hundred posters, and maybe 50 who
    frequently contribute original content. It has the added advantage
    to traditional mail lists of allowing pictures and even videos. Plus
    you can access it by cell phone as well as computer so it attracts
    younger members. You mock Facebook frequently but you really ought
    to take a look at it. I can see us migrating over to that platform
    and getting back some of the old FIDO participants who have dropped
    out as well attracting new younger ones.

    Apparently I hit a home run.
    Title: No Tomato Pasta Sauce (No Mato Sauce)
    1 c Carrots; in 1/2" pieces
    2 md Sweet potatoes; diced (4 c)
    3 tb Fresh lemon juice
    1 tb Balsamic vinegar
    8 oz Can beets
    Blend the contents of the pot until smooth

    That's an interesting combination of sauce ingredients! My own
    aberration is to simply replace about a quarter of my tomatoes with
    an equal volume of zucchini if I have some on hand. In fact I just
    did that earlier this evening when I made a batch of ground beef
    and mushroom pasta sauce. Ironically a house guest we didn't know
    at all (friend of a friend) is a vegetarian who is celiac AND has
    such a severe MSG allergy that she avoids tomatoes, mushrooms and
    Parmesan cheese. Luckily she brought her own food for the weekend.
    And we went out to a Vietnamese restaurant where she was able to
    find a reasonable selection of dishes to choose from.

    Cheers

    Jim


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  • From JIM WELLER@1:135/392 to SEAN DENNIS on Fri Jul 16 20:51:00 2021

    Quoting Sean Dennis to Dave Drum <=-

    There is a break in the mail still somewhere, I think. I can't be
    sure but the sudden dropoff in messages is not normal.

    I certainly believe so.

    Unfortunately, unless people start posting and telling me there's
    issues, I can't do much to investigate as moderator.

    I kind of alluded to that when I called for a roll call which got a
    VERY limited response.

    I'll try again. ... could everyone who still follows this echo and
    is able to read message this please post something.


    Cheers

    Jim


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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Dave Drum on Sat Jul 17 09:37:00 2021
    Dave Drum wrote to All <=-

    I'm doing what I can to keep three cooking echoes alive. But, with no
    one else posting for the past few I'm beginning to wonder if it's all worth it or is it almost over.

    It's been so humid around here I have not been cooking much. We're eating
    a lot of sammies, and salads. The early mornings are kicking my ass as well
    so I'm pretty much coming home sitting in a chair and passing out.

    On a more upbeat note - I have a friend who is allergic to tomatoes -
    but, oddly not to peppers (capsicum annum) which are in the nightshade family. Anyway this recipe fell into my view - so I grabbed it, MMed it and e-mailed it to him. Apparently I hit a home run. Bv)=

    Saved this as Andrea is currently "off" maters. I'm still going to buy
    crap loads of local ones and make some freezer sauce though in case she
    goes back on them.

    Shawn

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to JIM WELLER on Sat Jul 17 09:41:16 2021
    JIM WELLER wrote to SEAN DENNIS <=-

    I'll try again. ... could everyone who still follows this echo and
    is able to read message this please post something.

    I did earlier, but this is so you can keep track. :) I'm still here
    and posting when I have something to say. Life gets in the way sometimes
    and we've been dealing with some real life things that make me not want
    to communicate with people, even though it would probably help take my
    mind off things. ;)

    Shawn

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  • From Richard Miles@1:3634/24 to JIM WELLER on Sat Jul 17 09:53:06 2021
    On 16 Jul 2021, JIM WELLER said the following...

    I'll try again. ... could everyone who still follows this echo and
    is able to read message this please post something.

    I still peruse the recipes. Don't post very often but I do find this echo helpful.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Jul 16 10:29:06 2021
    Hi Dave,

    I'm doing what I can to keep three cooking echoes alive. But, with no
    one else posting for the past few I'm beginning to wonder if it's all worth it or is it almost over.

    I had a few days without Fido; this is the first day it is back.
    Meanwhile I've been busy wrapping up the crafts from VBS, finishing a
    baby quilt and catching up with medical appointments.


    On a more upbeat note - I have a friend who is allergic to tomatoes -
    but, oddly not to peppers (capsicum annum) which are in the nightshade family. Anyway this recipe fell into my view - so I grabbed it, MMed
    it and e-mailed it to him. Apparently I hit a home run. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: No Tomato Pasta Sauce (No Mato Sauce)
    Categories: Vegetables, Herbs, Potatoes
    Yield: 6 cups

    Looks interesting, might be worth trying for a change of pace. It has
    been hot (low 90s) with humidity almost as high the past week or so;
    I've not been running the oven. A few months ago I'd made some spinach
    and ricotta stuffed shells, put them in toaster oven size disposable
    pans with sauce and meat balls. Last night I heated one of those for our supper. Tonight may be Italian sausages with pepper and onions on the
    grill.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Sean Dennis on Sat Jul 17 10:53:48 2021
    Sean Dennis wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I'm doing what I can to keep three cooking echoes alive. But, with no
    one else posting for the past few I'm beginning to wonder if it's all worth it or is it almost over.

    There is a break in the mail still somewhere, I think. I can't be sure but the sudden dropoff in messages is not normal.

    Unfortunately, unless people start posting and telling me there's
    issues, I can't do much to investigate as moderator.

    I is e-mailed you off-line with what I know and what I suspicion... I'm
    pretty sure that Doc's is not re-hooked with Janis yet. He seems to
    think is "political" (his words). But I don't think Janis is that petty.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Prism Cake II
    Categories: Cakes, Desserts, Fruits, Dairy
    Yield: 11 Servings

    3 oz Pkg orange gelatin
    3 c Boiling water; divided
    2 c Cold water; divided
    3 oz Pkg cherry gelatin
    3 oz Pkg lime gelatin
    1 c Unsweetened pineapple juice
    1/2 c Sugar; divided
    3 oz Pkg unflavored gelatin
    3 oz Pkg lemon gelatin
    2 c Graham cracker crumbs
    1/2 c Butter; melted
    2 Cups Heavy whipping cream

    In a small bowl, dissolve orange gelatin in 1 cup boiling
    water; stir in 1/2 cup cold water. Pour into an ice cube
    tray coated with cooking spray. Repeat with cherry and
    lime gelatins, using two more ice cube trays. Refrigerate
    until firm, about 1-1/2 hours.

    In a small saucepan, combine pineapple juice and 1/4 cup
    sugar. Sprinkle with unflavored gelatin; let stand for 1
    minute. Cook and stir just until mixture comes to a boil.
    Remove from the heat; stir in lemon gelatin until
    dissolved. Stir in remaining cold water. Transfer to a
    large bowl; refrigerate for 30-40 minutes or until syrupy.

    Combine cracker crumbs with remaining sugar; stir in
    butter. Press onto the bottom and 2 in. up the sides of a
    greased 9" springform pan. Place on a baking sheet.

    Bake at 350øF/175øC for 8-10 minutes or until set. Cool on
    a wire rack.

    Remove gelatin cubes from ice cube trays. In a large bowl,
    beat cream until stiff peaks form. Gently fold into lemon
    gelatin mixture. Fold in gelatin cubes. Spoon over crust.

    Refrigerate for 8 hours or overnight.

    Yield: 10-12 servings.

    From: http://www.tasteofhome.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Dale Shipp on Sat Jul 17 11:10:10 2021
    Dale Shipp wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I'm doing what I can to keep three cooking echoes alive. But, with no
    one else posting for the past few I'm beginning to wonder if it's all worth it or is it almost over.

    I know what you mean. Traffic in COOKING has dropped off severely in
    the past few months. The problem with DOCs not getting some of our
    mail has hurt. I believe that he has fixed his feed by going back to Janis. [Jim Weller -- did you get this message?]

    I don't think he's back with Ms. Kracht yet. Nothing is flowing in or
    out in Recipes (and maybe other non-food echoes). But you can bet your
    bottom dollar (he said without looking) that ALL of the political echoes
    are flowing freely. Bv)=

    We have lost two influential and prolific posters. Each person who
    leaves (or dies) cuts down on the traffic double -- because in addition
    to their posts, there are posts of people responding to them.

    We're ageing out, Doctor. I sometimes marvel that I am still healthy
    enough to hold a job and enjoy working it at 79. I'll continue to do
    what I can here to try to stimulate conversations. Thus the "food days"
    posts. And the world sandwich series .... which is also a nice source
    of recipes In wouldn't have otherwise.

    Speaking of formerly prolific posters who have fallen off the twig ....

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Steamed Ancient Egg Diamonds
    Categories: Oriental, Eggs, Appetisers
    Yield: 1 Batch

    3 lg Fresh eggs
    1/4 c Hot water
    1 ts Peanut oil
    1 Preserved ancient egg;
    - cleaned, shelled, diced
    1 Salted duck egg; hard cooked
    - shelled, diced
    Coriander sprigs
    Preserved ginger & slivered
    - green onions

    Here's a recipe that uses both Thousand Year Eggs and
    Salted Eggs. Beat fresh eggs and gradually add hot water
    and oil.

    Stir in diced preserved egg and salted duck egg. Pour
    into a shallow, oiled heatproof dish and steam over
    gently boiling water for 15 minutes or until eggs are
    set. Let cool in dish and cut into small diamonds.

    Garnish with coriander. Serve with preserved ginger and
    slivered green onion.

    Note: If serving hot for main dish, increase water to
    1 cup.

    From "The Regional Cooking of China" by Margret Gin and
    Alfred E. Castle, 101 Productions, San Francisco, 1975.

    Posted by Stephen Ceideburg September 7 1990.

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to JIM WELLER on Sat Jul 17 12:02:28 2021
    JIM WELLER wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    I'm doing what I can to keep three cooking echoes alive.

    Two of them are dead. This one is on life support.

    You are the proximate cause of my posting the bulk recipes in those
    echoes. And I do get reactions from time to time. I've had posts from
    Alena Bogdanova and Olga Timokhina. However, despite email invitations
    to both they have not become regulars.

    with no one else posting for the past few I'm beginning to
    wonder if it's all worth it or is it almost over.

    I appreciate what you're trying to do. I am doing the same on a
    smaller scale with my cross Canada iconic foods thread. But
    robot-like recipe posts without any back and forth real dialogue is
    a lost cause.

    FIDO has been shrinking since 1994 when the internet became more
    widely available. When Yahoo groups, which used to be huge, shut
    down Facebook Groups mushroomed. It has hundreds of food groups;
    I'm on 2 of them, all I have time for. The largest one is now up to
    28,000 members with a few hundred posters, and maybe 50 who
    frequently contribute original content. It has the added advantage
    to traditional mail lists of allowing pictures and even videos. Plus
    you can access it by cell phone as well as computer so it attracts
    younger members. You mock Facebook frequently but you really ought
    to take a look at it. I can see us migrating over to that platform
    and getting back some of the old FIDO participants who have dropped
    out as well attracting new younger ones.

    It will be without me. I do not do Wal*Mart nor Fa(r)cebook. And will
    not - ever. Fidonet and my F1 discussion group is as close to "social"
    media as I care to go.

    Apparently I hit a home run.
    Title: No Tomato Pasta Sauce (No Mato Sauce)
    1 c Carrots; in 1/2" pieces
    2 md Sweet potatoes; diced (4 c)
    3 tb Fresh lemon juice
    1 tb Balsamic vinegar
    8 oz Can beets
    Blend the contents of the pot until smooth

    That's an interesting combination of sauce ingredients! My own
    aberration is to simply replace about a quarter of my tomatoes with
    an equal volume of zucchini if I have some on hand. In fact I just
    did that earlier this evening when I made a batch of ground beef
    and mushroom pasta sauce. Ironically a house guest we didn't know
    at all (friend of a friend) is a vegetarian who is celiac AND has
    such a severe MSG allergy that she avoids tomatoes, mushrooms and
    Parmesan cheese. Luckily she brought her own food for the weekend.
    And we went out to a Vietnamese restaurant where she was able to
    find a reasonable selection of dishes to choose from.

    Les' new (to him) wife thought so. He'll be getting a taste-test this
    weekend.

    I amazed my house-mate last night with this ....

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Aioli Pasta
    Categories: Pasta, Vegetables, Cheese, Herbs
    Yield: 4 servings

    8 oz Whole wheat linguine pasta *
    2 Plum tomatoes; seeded, diced
    1/2 c Olive oil
    2 cl Garlic; minced (or more)
    1/2 c Fresh basil leaves; in
    - chiffonade
    Salt & pepper
    Fresh shredded Parmesan
    Crused red pepper; optional

    * Any pasta, noodles or shapes you have on hand.

    Bring a pot of lightly salted water to a boil. Add pasta
    and cook for 8 to 10 minutes or until al dente; drain.

    In a large bowl, gently toss the cooked pasta, tomatoes,
    olive oil, garlic, and basil. Season with salt & pepper.
    Sprinkle over shredded Parmesan and/or chile flakes if
    using.

    Serve immediately with additional Parmesan

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Shawn Highfield on Sat Jul 17 12:18:58 2021
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I'm doing what I can to keep three cooking echoes alive. But, with no
    one else posting for the past few I'm beginning to wonder if it's all worth it or is it almost over.

    It's been so humid around here I have not been cooking much. We're
    eating a lot of sammies, and salads. The early mornings are kicking my ass as well so I'm pretty much coming home sitting in a chair and
    passing out.

    Being a single guy I find that eating out for most meals is as cost
    effective (and a lot less work) as cooking at home. And mostly there
    are no leftovers to deal with. Although sometimes leftovers are planned.

    On a more upbeat note - I have a friend who is allergic to tomatoes -
    but, oddly not to peppers (capsicum annum) which are in the nightshade family. Anyway this recipe fell into my view - so I grabbed it, MMed it and e-mailed it to him. Apparently I hit a home run. Bv)=

    Saved this as Andrea is currently "off" maters. I'm still going to buy crap loads of local ones and make some freezer sauce though in case she goes back on them.

    Les' wife is going to make a batch this weekend. I may get a report at breakfast tomorrow.

    Here's one of myne that's not a lot of trouble and will feed one several
    times or a crew once. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Single Guy's Stew
    Categories: Five, Beef, Vegetables, Herbs
    Yield: 6 Servings

    2 lb (to 3 lb) beef chuck; cut in
    - squarish chunks of medium
    - size (3/4" to 1")
    32 oz Frozen stew vegetables; 2
    - bags
    16 oz Crushed tomatoes w/basil;
    - undrained
    3 lg Russet potatoes; peeled, cut
    - no bigger than meat
    1 1/2 oz Beef Stew seasoning mix pkt
    Salt & pepper

    Cut your beef into comfortable sized pieces. Remove
    any sliver skin but leave the fat and gristle where
    they are. Toss with the stew seasoning mix to coat.

    Peel and cut up the potatoes in chunks about the
    same size as the meat. Add to the beef in the bowl.

    Open the bags of stew vegetables and add to the beef
    and potatoes, stirring to mix together.

    Get out your big crockpot and tip the bowl into the
    crock. Open the can of crushed tomatoes and pour them
    over the rest of the stew ingredients. No additional
    liquid is necessary.

    Set the cooker on low, put the lid on and go off to
    work or running your traps or whatever you do all day.

    Come supper time - dig in.

    Makes (about) six hearty servings. Leftovers just get
    better for the next few days.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Kurt Weiske on Sat Jul 17 13:50:22 2021
    Kurt Weiske wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I'm doing what I can to keep three cooking echoes alive. But, with no
    one else posting for the past few I'm beginning to wonder if it's all worth it or is it almost over.

    Would it make sense to consolidate the echoes into one? Fidonet doesn't have the traffic to support the number of echoes it used to.

    As someone who's dabbled in these cooking echoes for a while, I
    appreciate the discussions about food, food culture, restaurants and cooking as much as the recipes. Surely there'd be enough traffic for
    that?

    I post the recipes in hopes of generating discussion. Sometimes it even
    works that way.

    Regular posters help with that. Which is what we need - more regulars.
    Come around more often.

    The problem (one of them) is that we're ageing and being less active as
    we get older. Not to mention being more set in our ways. Bv)= Of course
    when you stop getting older ..... well, you know ....


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Rosina Pie: "Funeral Pie"
    Categories: Pies, Fruits, Desserts, Pastry, Citrus
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1 c Raisins
    2 c Water
    1 1/2 c Sugar
    4 tb Flour
    1 lg Egg; well beaten
    1 Lemon, juice of
    2 tb Lemon rind, grated
    1/4 ts Salt
    Pastry; as needed

    Wash raisins and soak in cold water for 3 hours. Drain.
    Combine the 2 cups water, the raisins, sugar and flour
    which have been mixed together, salt, lemon juice and
    rind, and the egg. Mix thoroughly and cook over hot
    water for 15 minutes, stirring occasionally.

    Cool. Pour into pastry-lined pan. Cover with narrow
    strips of dough, criss-crossed. (Lattice top)

    Bake at 450ºF/230ºC for 10 minutes. Reduce heat to 350ºF
    and bake for 30 more minutes.

    Source: Pennsylvania Dutch Cook Book - Fine Old Recipes,
    Culinary Arts Press, 1936.

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM


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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Sean Dennis on Sat Jul 17 07:08:00 2021
    Sean Dennis wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    A large percentage of the problem is that most of the active users of
    this echo use a particular BBS that is having difficulty with its
    Fidonet feed right now.

    That would explain what feels like a drop in message traffic across the
    board, no pun intended.



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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Jim Weller on Sat Jul 17 13:43:04 2021
    JIM WELLER wrote to SEAN DENNIS <=-

    I kind of alluded to that when I called for a roll call which got a
    VERY limited response.

    Oh, I knew what you were doing. :)

    I'll try again. ... could everyone who still follows this echo and
    is able to read message this please post something.

    I'm still here, of course.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Corned Beef Bake
    Categories: Main dishes, To post, Casseroles
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1 cn (12 Oz.) Corned Beef
    -Brisket; finely chopped
    1/2 c Green Bell Pepper; finely
    -chopped
    1/2 c Onion; finely chopped
    1/2 c Mayonnaise Or Salad Dressing
    1 Egg; beaten
    1/2 c Fine Dry Bread Crumbs
    2 tb Shortening
    6 sl Sharp Process American
    -Cheese
    1 cn Cream Of Celery Soup;
    -undiluted
    1 c Mixed Vegetables; drained
    1/3 c Milk
    3 Lge English Muffins; halved
    -& toasted

    Combine corned beef, pepper, onion and mayo. Shape into 6 patties.
    Blend egg and 1 tbs. water, dip patties into egg, then crumbs. Brown
    lightly in hot shortening. Place patties in baking dish (10 x 6 x 11
    1/2). Top with cheese slices. Combine soup, vegetables and milk,
    heat. Pour around patties. Bake at 350+X for 12 minutes or till hot.
    Serve on muffins.

    Serves 6.

    Source: Recipes Out of This World Women of St. Agnes Catholic Church
    Charleston, WV 1969

    billspa@icanect.net

    Recipe by: Ann Lancaster

    Posted to MC-Recipe Digest by "Bill Spalding" <billspa@icanect.net>
    on Apr 13, 1998

    MMMMM

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Kurt Weiske on Sat Jul 17 13:50:06 2021
    Kurt Weiske wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    That would explain what feels like a drop in message traffic across the board, no pun intended.

    That's why you see Jim (Weller) putting out a roll call. I don't have everyone's email in here to check on them but most of the active
    participants do email each other. If there is a serious problem, they
    can get hold of each other out-of-band to let everyone know. Of
    course, everyone is welcome on my BBS to post and check too.

    -- Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Sat Jul 17 13:54:08 2021
    Dave Drum wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    I is e-mailed you off-line with what I know and what I suspicion... I'm pretty sure that Doc's is not re-hooked with Janis yet. He seems to
    think is "political" (his words). But I don't think Janis is that
    petty.

    As I've said before, everyone is invitied to use my system as a gauge
    to see if their mail is getting out. I may not have a fancy Web
    interface like Doc's (though you can get to my BBS via the Web) but my
    mail connection is rock-solid. My main mail feed is via Nick Andre,
    the Z1C, so I'm connected at a good place. :D

    No recipe right now as my MM install has blown up again (ugh).

    -- Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dale Shipp on Sat Jul 17 15:23:22 2021
    Dale Shipp wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    We have lost two influential and prolific posters. Each person who
    leaves (or dies) cuts down on the traffic double -- because in addition
    to their posts, there are posts of people responding to them.

    I hope that I can try to get new people to post in here. I'm working
    on it!

    I have also discovered the issues with my MealMaster setup and am
    working on rebuilding it. I think I now have around 150,000 recipes.

    -- Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dale Shipp on Sat Jul 17 15:27:24 2021
    Dale Shipp wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    Two of the echos that Dave mentioned are essentially the same in
    content. For both of them, he is usually the only poster. They are recipes that Dave has found and prepared for posting -- so if you want recipes, subscribe to HOME_COOKING as well as COOKING. Although
    COOKING has some recipes, its main focus is conversation.

    Fun fact: I'll be taking over HOME_COOKING and RECIPES as moderator
    again soon. I may shutter HOME_COOKING and keep RECIPES as a sister
    echo to COOKING for mass postings of recipes.

    I'll also clarify that in the COOKING and RECIPES echo rules too.

    Thanks for the idea.

    I am also thinking about making a COOKING page on my website to drive
    some traffic into the echo that way.

    -- Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Richard Miles on Sat Jul 17 15:42:26 2021
    Richard Miles wrote to JIM WELLER <=-

    I still peruse the recipes. Don't post very often but I do
    find this echo helpful.

    We're glad you're here even if you're lurking. :)

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: No-Bake Vanilla Orange Cookies
    Categories: Cookies, Desserts, Seandennis
    Yield: 48 Cookies

    1 (12-oz) box vanilla wafer
    - cookies
    1/2 c Slivered almonds
    1/2 c Coconut
    1/2 c Powdered sugar
    1 c White chocolate chips
    1 tb Butter
    1/2 c Orange juice
    1/4 c Orange marmalade
    2 tb Corn syrup

    In a food processor, combine vanilla wafers with almonds and coconut;
    process until fine crumbs form. Add powdered sugar and process until
    blended. Or, pour wafer mixture into a bowl and add powdered sugar.

    In microwave-safe bowl, combine white chocolate chips and butter.
    Cook on 50% power for 1 minute, remove, and stir. Continue
    microwaving for 30-second intervals on 50% power until mixture is
    smooth and blended.

    Stir into wafer mixture along with orange juice, marmalade, and corn
    syrup.

    Form 1" balls. Roll into additional powdered sugar or coconut, then
    let stand until firm. Store, tightly covered, at room temperature.
    Makes about 48 cookies.

    Prep Time : 20 minutes
    Total Time: 20 minutes

    Author's notes: "This super-simple no-bake cookie is a great first
    recipe for children to make. If your kids are inexperienced or
    younger than 10 or 11, you should process the crumbs, nuts, and
    coconut and melt the white chocolate, then let the kids loose!"

    From:
    http://busycooks.about.com/od/cookierecipes/r/vanillacookies.htm

    MM'd by Sean Dennis on 6 June 2011.

    MMMMM

    -- Sean


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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Jim Weller on Sun Jul 18 00:50:06 2021
    On 07-16-21 20:51, Jim Weller <=-
    spoke to Sean Dennis about This is Discouraging <=-

    I'll try again. ... could everyone who still follows this echo and
    is able to read message this please post something.

    You ask, I respond.
    BTW, it looks like Ed Koon is not feeding directly from Janis. The path
    on your message to me was 135/392 (DOCs), 135/300 (Decker's Heaven),
    3634/12 (Mark Lewis), 261/38 (Janis). I had thought that he said he was
    going to go back to her.

    In any case, messages seem to now be flowing to and from him.

    Here is an original recipe. The General Tso chicken in our Fireside
    restaurant has its flavor profile reduced to LCD, given that a majority
    of the population here does not care for hot spicy food. To bring their
    Tso up to the heat level we like, I invented the sauce below. It was a
    "try it and see" recipe. I started with just Hosin and Siracha and that
    was not right. I then added the other ingredients a little at a time,
    each time getting close to what we like. We put the final mixture into
    a glass bottle with a screw top lid and take it to the restaurant when
    either of us plans on General Tso. We both like it. Gail puts a bit
    less on the dish than I do.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Sauce for fireside's General Tso
    Categories: Sauce, Chinese
    Yield: 3 Ounce

    1 T Hosin sauce
    1 T Siracha sauce
    1 ts Soy sauce
    1/4 ts Chili garlic sauce
    1/8 ts Ginger paste
    1/8 ts Garlic paste

    This is a sauce we made by experiment to spice up the Riderwood's
    Fireside Restaurant's General Tso. It could be used on other Chinese
    dishes as well. It is sweet and hot spicy.

    MMMMM


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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Jul 18 10:08:04 2021
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    On a more upbeat note - I have a friend who is allergic to tomatoes -
    but, oddly not to peppers (capsicum annum) which are in the nightshade family. Anyway this recipe fell into my view - so I grabbed it, MMed
    it and e-mailed it to him. Apparently I hit a home run. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: No Tomato Pasta Sauce (No Mato Sauce)
    Categories: Vegetables, Herbs, Potatoes
    Yield: 6 cups

    Looks interesting, might be worth trying for a change of pace. It has
    been hot (low 90s) with humidity almost as high the past week or so;
    I've not been running the oven. A few months ago I'd made some spinach

    I don't have a problem with running the oven. My stove is well-insulated
    and I don't open the door much. Even without central air conditioning
    it's not a problem. Unlike when I was a kid and the wood-fired kitchen
    range was actually just a big radiator if there was a fire in its belly.

    and ricotta stuffed shells, put them in toaster oven size disposable
    pans with sauce and meat balls. Last night I heated one of those for
    our supper. Tonight may be Italian sausages with pepper and onions on
    the grill.

    According to Les it was pretty tasty. He said it would be improved with
    the addition of some Parmesan. But his wife runs a Kosher kitchen, so
    that was out ...... until her back was turned. Bv)=

    Made a batch of these this weekend for use with tonight's pasta and
    meatballs. These are a bit smaller (this time) than my usual practice,
    so there are more of them. And they cooked up quicker. I'm planning to
    use the Hy-Vee Whole Wheat Linguine I got on special.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dirty Dave's Spicy Meatballs
    Categories: Five, Pork, Cheese, Breads, Vegetables
    Yield: 24 Meatballs

    2 lb Hot Italian sausage
    1/2 c Bread crumbs
    1/2 c Thin sliced green onions
    4 tb Grated Parmesan or Asiago
    2 lg Eggs

    In medium bowl, add sausage, bread crumbs, onions,
    cheese and egg. Mix thoroughly.

    Shape into 24 meatballs.

    Cook over med-low heat, turning frequently, until brown.

    Or, you can bake them @ 350ºF/175ºC for 35 or so minutes
    until cooked through. A wire rack over a sheet pan lets
    the grease drip away if you're averse to all the yummy
    fat.

    Serves 6 with pasta and red gravy

    Also makes scrumptious meatball subs using 6" (15cm)
    "hoagie" rolls w/marinara and some mozzarella cheese.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Sean Dennis on Sun Jul 18 10:16:34 2021
    Sean Dennis wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I is e-mailed you off-line with what I know and what I suspicion... I'm pretty sure that Doc's is not re-hooked with Janis yet. He seems to
    think is "political" (his words). But I don't think Janis is that
    petty.

    As I've said before, everyone is invitied to use my system as a gauge
    to see if their mail is getting out. I may not have a fancy Web
    interface like Doc's (though you can get to my BBS via the Web) but my mail connection is rock-solid. My main mail feed is via Nick Andre,
    the Z1C, so I'm connected at a good place. :D

    No recipe right now as my MM install has blown up again (ugh).

    Will vDos work with your operating system? I tried a couple other work
    arounds like DosBox but found that vDos works best with Winders. I seem
    to remember you doing Linux as an OS. If there is a vDos version for
    Linux - grab it and don't look back. Bv)=

    I am assuming (yes, I know) that you still have the big batch of stuff
    I sent you to re-import when you get set up. If not, lemme know and
    I'll see to it that you get a fresh copy .... now with a couple hundred
    more recipes.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Kielbasa (Fresh Polish Sausage)
    Categories: Pork, Sausages, Preserving
    Yield: 10 Pounds

    5 tb Salt
    10 ts Kosher salt
    1 tb Sugar; granulated
    1 tb Mustard seed
    5 ts Minced garlic
    2 tb Black pepper; ground coarse
    2 tb Marjoram, crumbled
    1 tb Oregano; crumbled
    4 ts Crushed red pepper; optional
    750 ml Red wine
    10 lb Pork butts
    Sausage casing

    Mix salt and seasonings together in a bowl.

    Grind all the pork butts through a 1/4" or 3/8"
    grinder plate and place in the mixer. Add all the
    ingredients and mix well, adding wine into the mix
    so that meat squishes through fingers while mixing.
    Mix until all the spices are evenly distributed.

    Stuff into 35-38mm hog casings.

    Hang on smokesticks spaced properly and let dry in
    cooler.

    NOTE: Be sure that meat has been chilled to 32-34ºF
    (0-1ºC) before starting.

    From Great Sausage Recipes and Meat Curing by Rytek Kutas

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM


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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Sean Dennis on Sun Jul 18 10:24:16 2021
    Sean Dennis wrote to Dale Shipp <=-

    Two of the echos that Dave mentioned are essentially the same in
    content. For both of them, he is usually the only poster. They are recipes that Dave has found and prepared for posting -- so if you want recipes, subscribe to HOME_COOKING as well as COOKING. Although
    COOKING has some recipes, its main focus is conversation.

    Fun fact: I'll be taking over HOME_COOKING and RECIPES as moderator
    again soon. I may shutter HOME_COOKING and keep RECIPES as a sister
    echo to COOKING for mass postings of recipes.

    I'll also clarify that in the COOKING and RECIPES echo rules too.

    Suggestion - keep the Home_Cooking if you're keeping one of the two.
    Doc's and probably some others who feed from his source do not transmit Recipes.

    Do you know the tale of how Home_Cooking got started?

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Seven Flavour Chicken
    Categories: Oriental, Poultry, Pasta, Chilies
    Yield: 4 Servings

    4 tb Soy sauce; divided
    2 tb Sesame oil; divided
    1 tb Cornstarch
    2 Chicken breast halves;
    - boned, skinned in thin
    - strips
    8 oz Uncooked vermicelli
    1 tb Sugar
    2 tb Distilled white vinegar
    2 tb Oil; divided
    1 md Carrot; julienned
    1/4 lb Fresh snow peas; trimmed,
    - julienned
    1/2 c Chopped green onions
    1 tb Minced fresh ginger root
    3/4 ts Crushed red pepper

    Blend 1 tbsp each soy sauce and sesame oil w/cornstarch;
    stir in chicken. Let stand 10 minutes.

    Break vermicelli in half and cook according to package
    directions, omitting salt; drain and keep warm in large
    mixing bowl.

    Dissolve sugar in remaining soy sauce, sesame oil and
    vinegar; set aside.

    Heat 1 tbsp oil in hot wok or large skillet over high
    heat. Add chicken and stir fry 3 minutes, remove.

    Heat remaining oil in same pan. Add carrot and snow
    peas; stir fry 1 minute. Add remaining 3 ingredients
    and stir fry 1 minute longer. Remove from heat; stir
    in chicken and vinegar mixture.

    Pour over vermicelli and toss together to combine.

    Serve immediately.

    Origin: Journal American, January 13 1993

    Shared by: Sharon Stevens

    Recipe from: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Dale Shipp on Sun Jul 18 10:28:42 2021
    Dale Shipp wrote to Jim Weller <=-

    Here is an original recipe. The General Tso chicken in our Fireside restaurant has its flavor profile reduced to LCD, given that a majority
    of the population here does not care for hot spicy food. To bring
    their Tso up to the heat level we like, I invented the sauce below. It was a "try it and see" recipe. I started with just Hosin and Siracha
    and that was not right. I then added the other ingredients a little at
    a time, each time getting close to what we like. We put the final
    mixture into a glass bottle with a screw top lid and take it to the restaurant when either of us plans on General Tso. We both like it.
    Gail puts a bit less on the dish than I do.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Sauce for fireside's General Tso
    Categories: Sauce, Chinese
    Yield: 3 Ounce

    1 T Hosin sauce
    1 T Siracha sauce
    1 ts Soy sauce
    1/4 ts Chili garlic sauce
    1/8 ts Ginger paste
    1/8 ts Garlic paste

    This is a sauce we made by experiment to spice up the Riderwood's
    Fireside Restaurant's General Tso. It could be used on other Chinese
    dishes as well. It is sweet and hot spicy.

    Stolen. I is gonna make up a batch of this.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Garlic Pepper Pork
    Categories: Oriental, Pork, Chilies, Herbs, Vegetables
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 1/2 lb Lean pork; in matchsticks
    2 tb Oil
    3 lg Garlic cloves; chopped fine
    1 md Onion; diced
    1/2 lg Red bell pepper; diced
    2 (or more) dried red chilies;
    - crushed, to taste
    6 sl Fresh ginger; quarter-sized,
    - in matchsticks
    1 tb Fresh ground black pepper
    2 tb Fish sauce (nam pla)
    2 tb Oyster sauce
    1 tb Soy sauce
    1/4 c White wine, beer, stock or
    - water

    Heat oil to medium-high; stir-fry garlic, dried chilies,
    and pork, about 3-4 minutes until pork is nearly done.

    Add onions, ginger, bell pepper, and stir-fry 3 minutes.

    Add black pepper and remaining liquids and stir-fry
    another 1-2 minutes. Taste and adjust seasonings.

    Serve over plain fried or white rice.

    Recipe from: http://www.food.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Dave Drum on Sun Jul 18 12:21:22 2021
    Dave Drum wrote to Shawn Highfield <=-

    Being a single guy I find that eating out for most meals is as cost effective (and a lot less work) as cooking at home. And mostly there
    are no leftovers to deal with. Although sometimes leftovers are
    planned.

    A co worker does that as well. She doesn't buy any food for the house
    just eats her couple meals a day when she's out and about. I get too
    sick of restaurant food... I like home cooking.

    We found a freezer bag of turkey soup I made a few months ago, it was
    great last night and enough left for lunch today.

    Title: Single Guy's Stew

    Similar to my "chuck it in" crockpot stew. ;)

    Shawn

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to JIM WELLER on Sat Jul 17 12:22:04 2021
    Hi Jim,


    Unfortunately, unless people start posting and telling me there's
    issues, I can't do much to investigate as moderator.

    I kind of alluded to that when I called for a roll call which got a
    VERY limited response.

    I'll try again. ... could everyone who still follows this echo and
    is able to read message this please post something.


    I'll post something--as you know, Wegman's opened up a store almost
    "just around the corner" from where we live in May. We've been Wegman's
    fans for years, usually making at least a couple of visits to one when
    we visit Steve's family in western New York State. So, this new one has
    become our "go to" store for most everything since it opened.

    Our church has an annual hot dog cook out/picnic every July (except for
    last year); this year it's set for July 18. Our small group was tasked
    with providing drinks for about 80 people so yesterday we went over to
    Sam's Club, only to find out cans of soda were packed in cases of 35,
    sparkling water varied in the amount per case. We got one case of water,
    then headed over to Wegman's. There we found boxes of 12 cans so picked
    up 5 different store brand boxes and a couple of name brand ones. The
    store brand ones were on sale too. (G)

    Then we went over to their in store pizzaria, ordered a medium meat
    lover's (10") to go. Chatting with the lady taking the order, we found
    out that she is a veteran (US Navy) so Steve invited her to join the
    American Legion post in town. She's currently working a second job bit
    is about to give that one up--so said she would join the Post when she
    does. Got a 2fer--new recruit for the post and supper.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From JIM WELLER@1:135/392 to DAVE DRUM on Sat Jul 17 22:45:00 2021

    Quoting Dave Drum to Jim Weller <=-

    You are the proximate cause of my posting the bulk recipes in those echoes.

    How is that?

    And I do get reactions from time to time. I've had posts from
    Alena Bogdanova and Olga Timokhina. However, despite email invitations
    to both they have not become regulars.

    Alena B pops up all over the place. She's just flogging her blog to
    sell cookbooks. Has she ever responded to you or does she just
    auto-post?

    And Olga T is trying to draw traffic to her website where she promotes
    stores who pay her for clicks. She has no real interest in us either.

    It will be without me. I do not do Wal*Mart nor Fa(r)cebook. And will
    not - ever.

    Walmart I understand. But what's your beef with Facebook? And with
    social media in general for that matter. Have you ever checked them
    out? The younger generations in my family all go to Pinterest for
    their recipes as they think mail groups are for old fogies!

    Another Winnipeg dessert:

    Schmoo Torte or Shmoo Cake is a soft, pecan-laced angel food or
    sponge cake cut into several layers, stacked and filled with
    sweetened whipped cream and drizzled with a buttery caramel sauce.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: WINNIPEG SCHMOO CAKE
    Categories: Canadian, Cakes, Desserts, Nuts
    Yield: 12 Servings

    CAKE:
    1 1/2 c Pecan halves; divided
    6 lg Eggs; separated
    1/4 ts Cream of tartar
    1 c Granulated sugar; divided
    1 tb Vanilla; divided
    3/4 c All Purpose flour
    1 ts Baking powder
    1/4 ts Salt
    BUTTERSCOTCH SAUCE:
    1 1/2 c Packed light brown sugar
    1 c Whipping cream
    2 tb Butter
    2 c Whipping cream

    Set oven rack at centre of oven and preheat to 325 F. Set out 9
    1/2" regular chiffon cake pan, fitted with legs, and not nonstick.
    Do not grease or line.

    Toast pecans in single layer on baking sheet until slightly
    darkened, 8 to 10 minutes. Set aside 12 of the best pecan halves.
    Let cool; chop remaining pecans finely. Measure out 3/4 cup for
    the cake batter, the remainder for garnish.

    Beat egg whites until foamy; sprinkle cream of tartar overtop.
    Beat to soft peaks. Adding half of the sugar in a steady sprinkle,
    beat whites until they form dazzlingly white and firm peaks.

    In a separate large bowl, beat yolks with remaining sugar until
    thick, pale yellow and mixture falls off beaters in ribbons. Add 2
    tsp of the vanilla.

    Whisk together flour, baking powder and salt; sift one-third at a
    time over the egg yolk mixture, folding in each addition gently.
    Fold in the ¾ cup (175 mL) chopped pecans. Fold in about a third
    of the egg white mixture to loosen the yolk mixture. Fold in
    remaining whites.

    Spoon batter into pan; run a table knife through the batter twice
    to eliminate air bubbles. Bake until skewer inserted into the cake
    comes out clean, about 55 minutes to 1 hour.

    Immediately turn cake pan upside-down and set on its legs for the
    cake to cool. You can enclose in an airtight container and store
    at room temperature for 1 day or freeze for up to 2 weeks. Let
    thaw.

    For the butterscotch sauce, bring sugar, cream and butter to a
    simmer, stirring. Simmer for 2 minutes. Let cool. Cover and
    refrigerate for up to 3 days. If sauce separates, warm until
    softened and whisk to combine and smooth.

    Beat cream until firm peaks form; add remaining 1 tsp vanilla.
    With long serrated knife, cut cake horizontally into three layers.
    Arrange 4 strips of waxed paper on large flat cake plate, forming
    frame that will keep plate clean. Place bottom cake layer,
    cut-side up on waxed paper. Spread scant quarter of vanilla
    whipped cream over layer. Repeat with second layer and cream. Top
    with remaining layer, cut-side down. Spread thin layer of whipped
    cream over top and side of cake (crumb coat); refrigerate for 10
    minutes. Use remaining whipped cream to cover the top and side of
    cake more generously. If desired, reserve some of the whipped
    cream to pipe rosettes around top of cake.

    Press remaining chopped pecans on side of the cake and garnish top
    of cake with whole pecan halves. Slide waxed paper frame from
    under the cake. Drizzle some of the butterscotch sauce over the
    cake, and reserve remainder in a pitcher to pour over individual
    servings. Chill for at least 4 hours or up to 8 hours.

    From: Elizabeth Baird, Canadian Living Magazine

    MMMMM


    Cheers

    Jim


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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Sun Jul 18 14:32:00 2021
    Dave Drum wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    Will vDos work with your operating system? I tried a couple other work arounds like DosBox but found that vDos works best with Winders. I seem
    to remember you doing Linux as an OS. If there is a vDos version for
    Linux - grab it and don't look back. Bv)=

    I think it is because I moved my setup from another system and next time
    I need to delete PARAM.MMF to get things working again. DOSemu and
    DOSbox are available for Linux, however, DOSemu is -much- better than
    anything else on Linux as it is runs DOS "natively" which results in
    much faster speeds. It's especially noticable when I import 60,000+
    recipes at once. This time, I will back the entire archive up to have something to experiment with and not blow up my only install. I still
    need to email Bill for his recipe collection then between you, Bill, and
    me I will have an enormous amount of recipes.

    That reminds me I need to get all of the recipes I want to import on the
    Linux install ready then I can have the computer work on installing
    stuff overnight while I sleep.

    I am assuming (yes, I know) that you still have the big batch of stuff
    I sent you to re-import when you get set up. If not, lemme know and
    I'll see to it that you get a fresh copy .... now with a couple hundred more recipes.

    I'll ask for the update when the new system is ready. Either today or tomorrow I'm moving this computer back to Linux as I scrounged up a
    better NIC (D-Link DFE530TX+) to put in here instead of the poorly
    supported (and poorly performing) Broadcom onboard NIC that is in this computer now.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Fried Pork Tenderloin Sandwich
    Categories: Abfarr, Ffbb, Pork
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1 ea Pork, tenderloin, trimmed,
    -20 to 24-ounce
    1 tb Kalmes Steak Seasoning*
    1 ts Pepper, black, fresh ground
    3/4 c Bread crumb, panko
    1 ea Oil, vegetable
    6 ea Rolls, hoagie
    1 ea Mayonaise
    1 ea Lettuce, leaves
    1 ea Tomato, slices

    Cut the tenderloin into 4-ounce chunks and tenderize each piece until
    it is 1/3 inch thick. Place the meat in a large bowl and toss with
    the seasoning and pepper. Add the bread crumbs and toss to combine.
    Place a griddle over medium-high heat and brush with a little oil.
    Once the griddle is hot, add the meat and cook until golden brown and
    cooked through, 3 to 4 minutes per side. Serve on rolls with
    mayonnaise, lettuce, and tomato.

    * Kalmes Steak Seasoning contains salt, sugar, paprika, celery seed,
    onion, chili powder, curry powder, garlic, papain, MSG, and other
    spice oils. For Jim's delicious blend go to www.kalmesseasoning.com

    Based on: A recipe from Kalmes Store & Restaurant
    : St. Donatus, Iowa

    Recipe from: Alton Brown
    : Feasting on Asphalt - The River Run
    : Stewart, Tabori & Chang
    : ISBN: 978-1-58479-681-7

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Sun Jul 18 14:35:02 2021
    Dave Drum wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    Suggestion - keep the Home_Cooking if you're keeping one of the two.
    Doc's and probably some others who feed from his source do not transmit Recipes.

    Really? I didn't know that. RECIPES is on the backbone.

    Do you know the tale of how Home_Cooking got started?

    No, I don't, actually. I do remember taking over HOME_COOKING from Dan
    Ceppa (IIRC) when he left Fidonet though. I handed it and RECIPES over
    to my friend Mike Powell for a while and now he's giving them back to
    me.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Aussie Meat Pies
    Categories: Australian, Pies, Beef, Groundmeat, Eggs
    Yield: 8 Servings

    2 c Plain flour
    9 tb Lard, chopped
    2 Eggs, lightly beaten
    2 tb Water
    2 Sheets ready-rolled puff
    Pastry
    1 Egg yolk, lightly beaten

    MMMMM----------------------FOR THE FILLING---------------------------
    1 oz Lard
    2 Onions, chopped
    2 lb Ground beef
    1/4 c Worcestershire sauce
    1/4 c Dark soy sauce
    2 ts Beef stock powder
    1/2 ts Ground allspice
    2 c Water
    2 tb Cornstarch
    2 tb Water

    Sift flour into bowl. Rub in lard. Add eggs and enough water to make
    ingredients cling together. Press dough into ball. Knead until smooth.
    Chill 30 min. Divide into 8 portions. Roll each out enough to line 4
    1/2" pie tins. Trim off excess pastry. Place tins on cookie sheet,
    line pastry with paper, fill with pie weights. Bake at 375F about 8
    min. Cool and remove pie weights.

    For the filling: wilt onion in lard. Add beef and stir over high heat
    until browned. Stir in flavorings and 2 c water. Bring to a boil,
    lower heat, and simmer 20 min. Thicken with mixture of 2 Tb each
    cornstarch and water. Chill.

    Spoon cold filling into pastry. Cut 5" rounds from puff pastry, brush
    edges of pastry with egg yolk, then press tops into place. Trim
    edges. Brush tops with more egg yolk. Bake on sheets at 375F for 15
    min or until lightly browned. "Serve hot with tomato sauce."

    Note: published recipe is in metric: I reconverted to English just to
    twit people.

    source: Australian Women's Weekly

    From: Michael Loo Date: 27 Sep 02

    MMMMM

    -- Sean


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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Jul 18 14:55:12 2021
    Ruth Haffly wrote to JIM WELLER <=-

    Then we went over to their in store pizzaria, ordered a medium meat lover's (10") to go. Chatting with the lady taking the order, we found
    out that she is a veteran (US Navy) so Steve invited her to join the American Legion post in town. She's currently working a second job bit
    is about to give that one up--so said she would join the Post when she does. Got a 2fer--new recruit for the post and supper.

    I was a member of the Legion Post in Greeneville but had to let that go
    when I lost my job and then my car. Once I'm able to get around on my
    own, I'll be joining the post here in Johnson City. Now that I have the
    time to volunteer more I think it will be much more enjoyable for me.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Bob Evans Sausage Cups
    Categories: Snacks, Pork, Sausage
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 lb Bob Evans Original Sausage
    Roll
    1 pk Won Ton Wrappers
    1 c Monterey Jack Cheese,
    Shredded
    1 c Cheddar Cheese, shredded
    1/2 c Ranch Dressing

    Preheat oven to 350F. Crumble sausage into medium skillet. Cook over
    medium heat until lightly browned, stirring occasionally. Drain.
    Spray mini muffin tins and insert won ton wrappers to form a small
    cup. Bake 5 minutes. Allow wrappers to cool. Mix sausage, cheeses,
    and ranch dressing together. Fill won ton wrappers. Bake for 10 min
    until bubbly.

    bobevans.com From: Michael Loo Date: 01-21-09

    MMMMM

    -- Sean


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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Dave Drum on Sun Jul 18 10:05:00 2021
    Dave Drum wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    The problem (one of them) is that we're ageing and being less active as
    we get older. Not to mention being more set in our ways. Bv)= Of
    course when you stop getting older ..... well, you know ....

    The recipes are an inspiration. We're getting older, but we're eating out
    less and cooking at home more - I'm growing tired of the hassle of restaurants, and after a year of restrictions, I'm appreciating home cooking more and looking for new ideas.




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  • From Bill Swisher@1:261/1466 to Dave Drum on Sun Jul 18 19:40:00 2021

    I'm doing what I can to keep three cooking echoes alive. But, with no
    one else posting for the past few I'm beginning to wonder if it's all worth it or is it almost over.

    All I can say is that I've never been particularly talkative. Having said that...my summer schedule, call if May to October, is a couple of days down at Kasilof and then back to Anchorage. At least that's what I try to do. While at Kasilof I have no functional computers, I take a Kindle which has my books and music on it. I take a small 2TB drive which has videos on it, and a copy of the books and music, so I've got something to watch on TV. Back in Anchorage it's wash clothes, cook, freeze, wash dishes from ANC and Kasilof, shop, other normal stuff like bills/medical krud/buy food. I could always dump the CIA* file again! I got recipes. For fall/winter it's back to Arizona where I'm actually spend more time at "home".

    Me, lately I've been watching new (to me) Alton Brown videos. He has a couple of dozen out on youtube that are visible. I have 3 sets of DVD's from the library waiting for me to pickup on Tuesday, they're from the CIA and IIRC are about 24 halfhour episodes in each set (part of their curriculum so they should be informative).

    So what's yer favorite recipe for biscuit dough that can be prepped ahead, portioned, and frozen? So I can take it out later and toss it into the oven, cooking for 1, One, Uno here, and I love biscuits and gravy. I've already got some test batches of fried sausage/roux, sans dairy, frozen to play with (in my family this could be tossed onto toast and it became SOS at that point, it wasn't till I was older I ran into Chipped Beef).

    *Culinary Institute of America, I blew out my carpal tunnels typing the recipes from a book by them. Today I loaned out my copy of a little cookbook put together by the parishioners of Saint Joseph's in Trinidad Colorado that Connie and I got sometime around 1978. This may be my next typing exercise, if anybody wants.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Best Ever Pancakes or Waffles
    Categories: Breakfast, Bread
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1/2 c All-purpose flour
    1/2 c Whole wheat flour
    1 tb Granulated sugar
    1 ts Baking powder
    1/2 ts Baking soda
    1/2 ts Ground cinnamon
    1/4 ts Salt
    1 c Buttermilk
    -OR
    3/4 c Plain yogurt
    -PLUS
    1/4 c Water
    1 lg Egg
    2 tb Mild olive or vegetable oil
    Oil for cooking
    Griddle, large skillet,
    -or waffle iron

    (From "Pancakes and Waffles" by Elizabeth Alston. HarperCollins;
    $12.50; 1993.)

    Food processor method: Put the flours, sugar, baking powder, baking
    soda, cinnamon and salt into a food processor. Process briefly to
    mix. Add the buttermilk, or yogurt and water, egg and oil. Turn the
    machine on-off (pulse) 3 or 4 times to make a smooth batter.

    By hand method: Put the flours, sugar, baking powder, baking soda,
    cinnamon and salt into a large bowl. Stir to mix well.

    Measure the buttermilk in a 2-cup glass measure. Add the egg and oil
    to the measuring cup. Beat with a fork or wire whisk to blend. Add to
    the flour mixture and stir to form a smooth batter.

    For pancakes: Heat the griddle or skillet over moderately high heat
    until it feels hot when you hold your hand directly above it. Lightly
    grease the griddle. For each pancake, pour 1/4 cup batter onto the
    griddle. Cook 3-5 minutes, until bubbles appear on the surface and
    the undersides are golden brown. Adjust the heat if the pancakes are
    browning too fast. Turn the pancakes over and cook 1-2 minutes longer
    to brown the second side.

    For waffles: heat the waffle iron; grease it lightly. Pour in the
    appropriate amount of batter and spread to the edges. Close and cook
    until the iron will open easily.

    Keep finished waffles or pancakes warm in a 200'F. oven - pancakes on
    a plate and loosely covered to keep moist; waffles directly on the
    oven rack, uncovered, to stay crisp. Makes 8 4" pancakes. Serves 4.
    From: Michael Orchekowski u/l Helen Peagram 05-93. U/l to NCE by
    Burt Ford 1/95 4/99.

    MMMMM

    Been a while, just got back into town <G> so I can't recall if I've Burtonized with this receipe before or not. Headed back out on Thursday, until Monday. I've gotta get back onto the Tuesday to Thursday schedule (traffic on the highway is a killer...my normal 3h10m drive took 4h30m today.


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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to JIM WELLER on Mon Jul 19 10:04:56 2021
    JIM WELLER wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    Walmart I understand. But what's your beef with Facebook? And with
    social media in general for that matter. Have you ever checked them
    out? The younger generations in my family all go to Pinterest for
    their recipes as they think mail groups are for old fogies!

    I've tried for years to get my daughter to check out fidonet. She's
    a computer nerd (video game programmer) and cooks when she has time,
    but just like you say above. "Pintrest is quicker and has pictures."

    Shawn

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Bill Swisher on Mon Jul 19 10:11:56 2021
    Bill Swisher wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    So what's yer favorite recipe for biscuit dough that can be prepped
    ahead, portioned, and frozen? So I can take it out later and toss it
    into the oven, cooking for 1, One, Uno here, and I love biscuits and gravy.

    I asked this a while back. What I now do is freeze the portion of
    buttermilk and use my standard amazing recipe. If you have access to a
    nuker, about a minute will thaw the buttermilk.

    1 cup flour
    1/8 teaspoon salt
    1 and 1/2 teaspoon baking powder
    2/3 cup buttermilk

    You can add whatever flavours you want to that. (Garlic, onion,
    grated cheese etc etc) I bake at 400 for 10 mins in the air
    fryer or around 20 mins in my crappy oven.

    Makes 3 big ones, or 4 small ones.

    Shawn

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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Kurt Weiske on Mon Jul 19 11:28:36 2021
    Kurt Weiske wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    The problem (one of them) is that we're ageing and being less active as
    we get older. Not to mention being more set in our ways. Bv)= Of
    course when you stop getting older ..... well, you know ....

    The recipes are an inspiration. We're getting older, but we're eating
    out less and cooking at home more - I'm growing tired of the hassle of restaurants, and after a year of restrictions, I'm appreciating home cooking more and looking for new ideas.

    Living single I find that dining in restaurants is a "social" occasion.
    Plus I don't have to wash the dishes or clean up the stove. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Classic Diner Burger
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Sauces, Herbs
    Yield: 4 Servings

    MMMMM------------------THOUSAND ISLAND DRESSING-----------------------
    1 c Mayonnaise
    1/8 c Ketchup
    1 tb Prepared horseradish
    1 1/2 ts Worcestershire sauce
    1/2 ts Kosher salt
    1/4 ts Black pepper
    1 lg Hard boiled egg; shucked,
    - minced
    1/4 c Chopped bread & butter
    - pickles

    MMMMM--------------------------BURGERS-------------------------------
    1 1/2 lb Ground chuck
    1 tb Lemon juice
    1 tb Worcestershire sauce
    1 ts Kosher salt
    Fresh ground black pepper
    4 Soft white hamburger buns
    1 lg Onion; in 1/2" slices
    2 tb Bacon grease

    MMMMM--------------------------TOPPINGS-------------------------------
    Iceberg lettuce; shredded
    American cheese
    Tomato slices
    Pickles of all sorts

    Pre heat the oven to 350ºF/175ºC.

    Place the ground chuck, worcestershire, lemon juice and
    salt into a bowl. Mix until well combined. Divide into
    four equal sized patties that are about a 1/2 to 3/4 inch
    thick. Then season the up side with lots of black pepper.

    Place a 12" cast iron skillet over medium heat. Add the
    bacon grease and the four slices of onion. Season the
    onions with salt and pepper. Saute the onions until they
    are soft and caramelized on each side. When they have
    browned place them on a sheet tray.

    Turn the heat to high and gently place the burgers into
    the pan, black pepper side down. Season they tops with
    more black pepper. Sear them until good and cararmelized
    on each side. Remove to the sheet tray with the onions to
    let them rest. After 10 minutes slide the tray into the
    oven and reheat the burgers to your desired temperature. I
    prefer medium rare to medium.

    Butter the insides of each bun. Wipe out the skillet and
    then toast each bun. Assemble the burgers with the onion,
    Thousand Island dressing and serve.

    FOR THE THOUSAND ISLAND DRESSING: Combine all the
    ingredients into a mixing bowl and mix until combined.

    RECIPE FROM: http://food52.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Sean Dennis on Mon Jul 19 11:40:26 2021
    Sean Dennis wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Do you know the tale of how Home_Cooking got started?

    No, I don't, actually. I do remember taking over HOME_COOKING from Dan Ceppa (IIRC) when he left Fidonet though. I handed it and RECIPES over
    to my friend Mike Powell for a while and now he's giving them back to
    me.

    A nice Canadian lady named Sharon Stevens had a dispute with an A.R.
    moderator (I think Joanne Pierce). And since no one ever wins in an
    argument with a moderator she started Home_Cooking. It never was as big
    as Cooking but was, certainly, a nice alternative.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Oriental Marinade
    Categories: Marinades, Sauces, Herbs
    Yield: 1 Cup

    1/2 c Soy sauce
    1/4 c Water
    2 tb Vinegar
    1 tb Vegetable oil
    1 ts Sugar
    1/4 ts Ground ginger
    Garlic powder or granules

    Combine and marinate for 3-4 hours, preferably in fridge.

    Origin: Tupperware recipe insert.

    From: Sharon Stevens, 1/15/95, Home Cooking Echo.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Jul 18 19:56:17 2021
    Hi Dave,


    Title: No Tomato Pasta Sauce (No Mato Sauce)
    Categories: Vegetables, Herbs, Potatoes
    Yield: 6 cups

    Looks interesting, might be worth trying for a change of pace. It has
    been hot (low 90s) with humidity almost as high the past week or so;
    I've not been running the oven. A few months ago I'd made some spinach

    I don't have a problem with running the oven. My stove is
    well-insulated and I don't open the door much. Even without central
    air conditioning
    it's not a problem. Unlike when I was a kid and the wood-fired kitchen range was actually just a big radiator if there was a fire in its
    belly.

    I just don't run it that much in the summer, even tho we've got central
    A/C. Steve did run it on low overnight recently (about 8 hours) but
    that's more the exception, than the rule around here.

    I do remember when I was a kid, my mom doing something in the oven
    during the summer. We had no A/C so the kitchen got quite warm--doing
    the dishes after supper, the oven was still putting out a good bit of
    heat.

    and ricotta stuffed shells, put them in toaster oven size disposable
    pans with sauce and meat balls. Last night I heated one of those for
    our supper. Tonight may be Italian sausages with pepper and onions on
    the grill.

    According to Les it was pretty tasty. He said it would be improved
    with the addition of some Parmesan. But his wife runs a Kosher
    kitchen, so
    that was out ...... until her back was turned. Bv)=

    Does she have it split into dairy and meat of everything or is it more
    of a casually kosher?


    Made a batch of these this weekend for use with tonight's pasta and meatballs. These are a bit smaller (this time) than my usual practice,
    so there are more of them. And they cooked up quicker. I'm planning to
    use the Hy-Vee Whole Wheat Linguine I got on special.


    Title: Dirty Dave's Spicy Meatballs
    Categories: Five, Pork, Cheese, Breads, Vegetables
    Yield: 24 Meatballs

    2 lb Hot Italian sausage
    1/2 c Bread crumbs
    1/2 c Thin sliced green onions
    4 tb Grated Parmesan or Asiago
    2 lg Eggs

    In medium bowl, add sausage, bread crumbs, onions,
    cheese and egg. Mix thoroughly.

    Shape into 24 meatballs.

    Cook over med-low heat, turning frequently, until brown.

    Or, you can bake them @ 350ºF/175ºC for 35 or so minutes
    until cooked through. A wire rack over a sheet pan lets
    the grease drip away if you're averse to all the yummy
    fat.

    I usually bake meat balls for about half that time; they're well cooked
    thru at that point. I'll put them in whatever sauce I'm making, give
    them a couple of hours of simmering in that and they pick up more
    flavor.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Dave Drum on Mon Jul 19 07:21:00 2021
    Dave Drum wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    Title: Classic Diner Burger

    1 tb Worcestershire sauce

    MMMMM--------------------------TOPPINGS-------------------------------
    American cheese


    I'd forgotten about adding Worcestershire sauce to the meat - lately I've
    been getting lazy and buying pre-made patties.

    As for cheese, I saw an interesting vid with Tony Bourdain and another chef talking about the perfect burger. The potato bun was important, you want a
    bun that's grilled to give it a little crispness.

    The burger shouldn't be too big, you want each bite to have all of the condiments.

    The point they made that I remembered was that they insisted that you
    should use American cheese in a Proper Burger, because of the way it melts andthe flavor when it's heated. I've tried that lately in restaurants and while feeling slightly odd for choosing a manufactured cheese product over Havarti, Swiss or Cheddar, They Were Right.


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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Shawn Highfield on Mon Jul 19 08:22:00 2021
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Bill Swisher <=-

    1 cup flour
    1/8 teaspoon salt
    1 and 1/2 teaspoon baking powder
    2/3 cup buttermilk

    You can add whatever flavours you want to that. (Garlic, onion,
    grated cheese etc etc) I bake at 400 for 10 mins in the air
    fryer or around 20 mins in my crappy oven.

    Saved for future use. My family has a cabin near Donner Summit, close to
    Lake Tahoe on the California side. The cabin sits at 7100' altitude, and I love to bake up there - anything that rises becomes amazingly fluffy in the thin air. I'd love to see how a scratch recipe rises, as those biscuits-in- a-tube rise impressively.

    Biscuits and country gravy are a stand-by breakfast up there.




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  • From Bill Swisher@1:261/1466 to Richard Miles on Sun Jul 18 21:48:00 2021
    ... (A)bort, (R)etry, (I)nfluence with large hammer.

    Back before I retired, I was a sysadmin for the Alaskan NORAD Region (and the last NC for Alaska in the FIDO world), that would be "larger hammer". Just remember the last step in fixing a computer is to "trip over the powercord and see if it reboots correctly." Also remember sometimes the UPS will catch on fire, so is it downstream from the emergency cutoff switch and what about the stuff after it?

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Blended Low Fat Vegetable Soup
    Categories: Soups, Vegetables
    Yield: 2 servings

    1/4 c Diced onion
    2 pk Instant chicken broth &
    -seasoning mix.
    2 Garlic cloves, minced
    1 1/2 c Zucchini, thinly sliced
    1/2 c Carrots, thinly sliced
    1/2 c Tomato, chopped, seeded
    1 t Fresh parsley, chopped
    1/4 t Basil leaves
    1/8 t Pepper

    Combine onion, garlic and broth mix in a pot. Cook and stir
    occasionally until the onion turns translucent. Then add the rest of
    the ingredients, with stirring. Cover and cook on low heat, with
    occasional stirring for roughly 10 minutes. Add 2 cups of water and
    bring it to a boil.

    Then reduce heat to medium, cover, and cook 'til the veggies are soft,
    maybe 20 minutes. Then with a hand blender blend for a little bit
    right in the pot to thicken the soup, being sure to leave a lot of
    chunks of vegetables. The amount you blend depends on you own tastes.
    Blend a few seconds, stir, and try it.

    Shirley makes triple batches of this, because we love it, and because
    it gets better and better when reheated as left-overs. You might try
    more pepper, it is very good as a peppery soup.

    Adapted (blending <in> the pot) from a Weight Watcher's recipe by
    Shirley. Each serving is 2 3/4 vegetable and 10 carbohydrates.
    Typed and U/L to Cooking by Burt Ford. 2/95

    MMMMM

    Watched an Alton Brown video on cooking rice, he made a huge batch (I cook for one) but 2 things he did stood out. He used 2 cups of rice and 3 cups of water, I always done a 1:2 ratio myself, but will try this next time since I've always thought it was a bit "wet" when done, and he admantly specified set the timer for 20 minutes (I've never been that accurate with the timing...another test thing next time.) Anyhow, so the next batch will be 1/3c rice (2 servings), sauteed in butter unless I use chicken fat (I still have an unopened, frozen, suckie bagged, jar of duck fat to fiddle with, but I've got my heart set on a good chicken thigh cassoulet that I've never made yet), plus some salt, and a half cup water for 20 minutes. OK, I cheat...sometimes I toss in a bit of white wine, cook till dry, if I don't use chicken fat I might add some chicken buillon, and add dried parsley with the water. The rice can be...errr...fluid also....will it be long grain or jasmine? I had an English teacher in highschool, San Antonio Texas (my moms old hometown, my dad was from the Arkansas/Oklahoma belt, hence the Tex-Mex/Southern Cooking Thang), who was a graduate of UT. She said they had a phrase they used to teach Texans proper enunciation "I like white rice." I got into rice when my dad was stationed at Hickam AFB in Hawaii when I was a kid and was introduced to "Chinese" food at elemetary school (we were forced to live in downtown Honolulu because of a lack of base housing, tough being a 10yo kid living a block and a half away from Waikiki), but I did enjoy the school lunches...YUMM.

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  • From Bill Swisher@1:261/1466 to Dave Drum on Mon Jul 19 07:50:02 2021
    Dave Drum wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    A nice Canadian lady named Sharon Stevens had a dispute with an A.R.

    Used to think about her every time Connie and I would drag the 5th-wheel through Quesnel BC.



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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Dave Drum on Tue Jul 20 00:29:02 2021
    On 07-19-21 11:40, Dave Drum <=-
    spoke to Sean Dennis about This is Discouraging <=-

    A nice Canadian lady named Sharon Stevens had a dispute with an A.R. moderator (I think Joanne Pierce). And since no one ever wins in an argument with a moderator she started Home_Cooking. It never was as
    big as Cooking but was, certainly, a nice alternative.

    There is a little bit more to the story. Joanne had decided that she was
    going to quit and turned over the reins, including pasword for the
    Elist, to Sharon. Sharon then changed the rules to something that
    Joanne did not like. So Joanne sent an update to the Elist, using the
    password she had given to Sharon -- and then locked Sharon out. That
    was before I took a slot as alternate moderator.

    Sharon is still around, posting on facebook.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: HOE DOWN SANDWICHES
    Categories: None, Sandwich
    Yield: 4 Servings

    4 Hard-cooked
    Eggs -- chopped
    3/4 c Ham -- chopped
    16 Whole wheat bread slices
    16 Cheese Slices
    1/4 c Celery -- chopped
    1/4 c Dill pickle -- chopped
    Salad dressing
    Margarine

    Combine eggs, ham, celery, pickle and enough salad dressing to
    moisten. Mix lightly. For each sandwich, cover slice of bread with
    cheese, egg mixture and second slice of cheese and second slice of
    bread. Spread bread with margarine. Place sandwich on cookie sheet.
    Broil on each side until golden brown and cheese melts. Makes 8
    sandwiches.

    MMMMM


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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Mon Jul 19 18:23:18 2021
    Hello Dave,

    Monday July 19 2021 11:40, you wrote to me:

    A nice Canadian lady named Sharon Stevens had a dispute with an A.R. moderator (I think Joanne Pierce). And since no one ever wins in an argument with a moderator she started Home_Cooking. It never was as
    big as Cooking but was, certainly, a nice alternative.

    I recognize Sharon's name through discussions in the echo over the years.

    I also have several dozen (if not hundreds) of her recipes, courtesy of Jim.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Summer Fruit Shortcake
    Categories: Cakes
    Yield: 6 servings

    3 c Mixed fresh fruit
    3 tb Granulated sugar
    1 tb Lemon juice
    1 c Strawberry puree
    1 c Whipping cream, whipped
    LEMON BISCUITS
    Milk
    Grated rind and juice of 1
    -lemon
    2 c All purpose flour
    2 tb Granulated sugar
    4 ts Baking powder
    1/2 ts Salt
    2 tb Shortening
    2 tb Butter

    Traditionally, fruit shortcakes are served on warm, split and buttered
    baking powder biscuits. For a change, try these Lemon Biscuits. Use
    any seasonal fruit such as strawberries, blueberries,
    blackberries,raspberries, red currants, plums and peaches.

    In bowl, sprinkle fruit with 2 tbsp of the sugar and lemon juice;
    toss to mix well. Set aside.

    LEMON BISCUITS

    In measuring cup, add enough milk to lemon juice to make 2/3 cup;
    stir and set aside for 15 minutes to sour. In bowl, stir together
    flour,sugar, baking powder, salt and lemon rind; using pastry blender
    or two knives, cut in shortening and butter until well mixed. With
    fork, blend in soured milk to make soft dough. Don't overmix. Turn
    out dough onto lightly floured surface; knead 6-8 times. Roll out or
    pat dough to 1/2 inch thickness. Using floured 3 inch round cutter,
    cut out 6 biscuits. Sprinkle lightly with more sugar. Bake on greased
    baking sheet in 425 F oven for 12-15 minutes or until tops are
    browned. Let cool until warm;cut in half horizontally. Spoon fruit
    mixture onto bottom halves of biscuits, reserving some fruit for
    garnish. Stir strawberry puree with remaining sugar; spoon over
    fruit mixture. Top with dollop of whipped cream, then biscuit tops.
    Garnish with more cream and remaining fruit. Makes 6 servings.

    Origin: Canadian Living cooking collection: Great Desserts Shared
    by: Sharon Stevens.

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Shawn Highfield on Mon Jul 19 18:39:31 2021
    Hello Shawn,

    Monday July 19 2021 10:04, you wrote to JIM WELLER:

    "Pintrest is quicker and has pictures."

    Just wait until the Internet breaks. Half of the world is going to lose its effing mind.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: White Trash Hoppin' John
    Categories: Vegetables, Rice, Whitetrash
    Yield: 1 Servings

    Cook enough black-eyed peas
    With hog jowls until they
    Are tender. Cook
    Cup of rice for every 2 or 3
    Hungry people. Stire the
    Rice and peas
    Together and serve.

    Some folks add tomatoes, some add okra, but whatever else you add, if
    it has rice and peas, it then has to be called by it's White Trash
    name of Hoppin' John.

    Always eaten on New Year's Day, with the more you eat, the more good
    luck you will have in the coming year. Kaye Kay states "That's common
    knowledge. You can make it out of crowder, field or cow peas."

    Origin: Adapted from White Trash Cooking. Shared by: Sharon Stevens,
    April/95. From: Sharon Stevens Date: 04-03-95 (164) Fido: Home Co

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Kurt Weiske on Tue Jul 20 11:11:36 2021
    Kurt Weiske wrote to Shawn Highfield <=-

    Saved for future use. My family has a cabin near Donner Summit, close
    to Lake Tahoe on the California side. The cabin sits at 7100' altitude, and I love to bake up there - anything that rises becomes amazingly
    fluffy in the thin air. I'd love to see how a scratch recipe rises, as those biscuits-in- a-tube rise impressively.

    These should do well. They rise nice and fluffy here and I'm using GF
    flour and live in the damn rain forest. (Okay just feels like it LOL)

    Biscuits and country gravy are a stand-by breakfast up there.

    We love this for supper at our place. :)

    Shawn

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Sean Dennis on Mon Jul 19 12:15:16 2021
    Hi Sean,

    Then we went over to their in store pizzaria, ordered a medium meat lover's (10") to go. Chatting with the lady taking the order, we found
    out that she is a veteran (US Navy) so Steve invited her to join the American Legion post in town. She's currently working a second job
    but RH> is about to give that one up--so said she would join the Post
    when she RH> does. Got a 2fer--new recruit for the post and supper.

    I was a member of the Legion Post in Greeneville but had to let that
    go when I lost my job and then my car. Once I'm able to get around on
    my
    own, I'll be joining the post here in Johnson City. Now that I have
    the time to volunteer more I think it will be much more enjoyable for
    me.

    They're one of the best groups you could join for vets. My dad was an
    off and on member (when he could afford the dues, not always possible
    while raising a family) for years. Couldn't be a 50 year plus member
    because the early years were so hit and miss. After all the kids left
    home, he joined but didn't go to many meetings as they featured a bar
    and smoking, neither of which he was enamoured of. One good thing that
    post did was to give local, active duty folks a free membership--they
    let Dad sign up Steve and our younger daughter (who let her membership
    drop after Dad passed away). Steve was able to keep his membership
    active so just transferred it to the post here in WF.

    Our post is a dry one but they do a supper before the meeting. It's a
    good way to encourage members to attend the meeting. They have 200+/- on
    the rolls but maybe 30+/- attend a meeting.


    Title: Bob Evans Sausage Cups
    Categories: Snacks, Pork, Sausage
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 lb Bob Evans Original Sausage
    Roll
    1 pk Won Ton Wrappers
    1 c Monterey Jack Cheese,
    Shredded
    1 c Cheddar Cheese, shredded
    1/2 c Ranch Dressing

    I'm not sure how ranch dressing would work in this. I know you need
    something to bind the sausage and cheese together but the flavor of
    ranch dressing seems incompatable.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Shawn Highfield on Tue Jul 20 06:57:00 2021
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    Biscuits and country gravy are a stand-by breakfast up there.

    We love this for supper at our place. :)

    Another new discovery of an old dish - fried cornbread with eggs and country gravy. A little diner up near the cabin serves it and I'm kicking myself for not making it sooner. The cornbread gets a crisp outer layer that makes it hold up to the gravy, otherwise the cornbread sort of disintegrates.


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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Dale Shipp on Tue Jul 20 20:10:42 2021
    Dale Shipp wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    A nice Canadian lady named Sharon Stevens had a dispute with an A.R. moderator (I think Joanne Pierce). And since no one ever wins in an argument with a moderator she started Home_Cooking. It never was as
    big as Cooking but was, certainly, a nice alternative.

    There is a little bit more to the story. Joanne had decided that she
    was going to quit and turned over the reins, including pasword for the Elist, to Sharon. Sharon then changed the rules to something that
    Joanne did not like. So Joanne sent an update to the Elist, using the password she had given to Sharon -- and then locked Sharon out. That
    was before I took a slot as alternate moderator.

    And before I was active on Phydeaux. I never knew the whole story - just
    that there had been a falling out. That was actually pretty underhanded.
    And fits with some of the other stories I heard bits and bobs of about
    Ms Pierce.

    Sharon is still around, posting on facebook.

    That I did not know either. I assumed that she had fallen off the twig
    like so many other former Fido participants. Posting on Farcebook is
    not surprising. Practically everyone in the world except me and a few
    other curmudgeons (not to mention banned politicians) post on Farcebook
    and enrichen Mark Zucker-whatsis.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Cuban Lunch
    Categories: Five, Candies, Nuts, Chocolate
    Yield: 75 Servings

    12 oz Pkg pure chocolate wafers
    12 oz Pkg peanut butter chips
    7 oz Pkg crushed regular potato
    - chips
    1 c Chopped peanuts

    This sweet treat is excellent for Christmas or large
    buffets - anytime you want to serve a special dessert
    nibble.

    Melt chocolate wafers and peanut butter chips. Mix in
    peanuts and potato chips. Spoon or pour into small paper
    baking cups.

    Store in the refrigerator.

    Makes 75.

    Origin: Homestyles, Canadian Classics

    Shared by: Sharon Stevens

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dale Shipp on Tue Jul 20 22:12:06 2021
    Dale Shipp wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    There is a little bit more to the story. Joanne had decided that she
    was going to quit and turned over the reins, including pasword for the Elist, to Sharon. Sharon then changed the rules to something that
    Joanne did not like. So Joanne sent an update to the Elist, using the password she had given to Sharon -- and then locked Sharon out. That
    was before I took a slot as alternate moderator.

    That's nasty. The first thing I do when I take over an echo is change
    the elist password (not that the elist is an official part of Fidonet
    but still).

    These days I use a random password generator I wrote to generate good
    elist passwords. I keep them "locked up" in a GPG-encrypted file
    locally.

    -- Sean


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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Jul 20 23:47:10 2021
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    Our post is a dry one but they do a supper before the meeting. It's a
    good way to encourage members to attend the meeting. They have 200+/-
    on the rolls but maybe 30+/- attend a meeting.

    The Greeneville post is try (and tiny). The Johnson City one is much
    larger but I believe it is dry. The VFW here has a big bar; been there
    once with a friend of mine who is a member.

    Title: Bob Evans Sausage Cups
    1/2 c Ranch Dressing

    I'm not sure how ranch dressing would work in this. I know you need something to bind the sausage and cheese together but the flavor of
    ranch dressing seems incompatable.

    I didn't see that until you mentioned. I'd just leave it out since
    ranch disgusts me.

    -- Sean


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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Sean Dennis on Wed Jul 21 08:19:12 2021
    Sean Dennis wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-

    The Greeneville post is try (and tiny). The Johnson City one is much larger but I believe it is dry. The VFW here has a big bar; been there once with a friend of mine who is a member.

    None of the legion's here are dry at all. :) The bar and dart leagues pretty much keep them running. Of course some memberships are so low that they
    have sold the property to keep afloat.

    I didn't see that until you mentioned. I'd just leave it out since
    ranch disgusts me.

    I've never understood ranch.

    Shawn

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Shawn Highfield on Wed Jul 21 13:51:09 2021
    Hello Shawn,

    Wednesday July 21 2021 08:19, you wrote to me:

    None of the legion's here are dry at all. :) The bar and dart leagues pretty much keep them running. Of course some memberships are so low
    that they have sold the property to keep afloat.

    I'd not visit the wet bar if they had one. I can't be around cig smoke at all as I will get a case of bronchitis that will put me in the hospital.

    I've never understood ranch.

    Someone likes it somewhere. It's much like how I love freshly-chopped mushrooms on my cottage cheese in the mornings ...

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Homer Simpson's Guinness Burger
    Categories: Five, Beef, Sandwiches, Breads
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 lb Ground chuck; no less than
    - 20% fat content to ensure
    - juiciness
    1/4 c A1 steak sauce
    6 oz (1/2 btl) Guinness Stout
    2 Handfuls of crushed nacho
    - chips
    4 Hoagie-style rolls

    Guinness and nacho chips add flavor to this Homer Simpson recipe for
    hamburgers. Thanks to Stacey Davies of New York for this recipe.

    Mix all ingredients (except rolls) by hands that have crushed the
    chips to get all the flavor.

    Shape into 4 long patties.

    Grill as desired.

    Place on hoagie roll and sprinkle with any leftover nacho chips.

    Yum.

    From: http://www.animatedtv.about.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Sean Dennis on Thu Jul 22 08:10:12 2021
    Sean Dennis wrote to Shawn Highfield <=-

    I'd not visit the wet bar if they had one. I can't be around cig smoke
    at all as I will get a case of bronchitis that will put me in the hospital.

    No smoking in doors in any public building in Ontario. You're not even
    allowed to smoke in a car if there are children with you. (Not that I
    can see the police bothering with that rule)

    I've never understood ranch.
    Someone likes it somewhere. It's much like how I love freshly-chopped mushrooms on my cottage cheese in the mornings ...

    Lots of people do... My mother loves it.

    Shawn

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Sean Dennis on Wed Jul 21 14:06:15 2021
    Hi Sean,

    Our post is a dry one but they do a supper before the meeting. It's a
    good way to encourage members to attend the meeting. They have 200+/-
    on the rolls but maybe 30+/- attend a meeting.

    The Greeneville post is try (and tiny). The Johnson City one is much larger but I believe it is dry. The VFW here has a big bar; been
    there once with a friend of mine who is a member.

    I don't know the full origins of this post; I think it was started after
    WWII. With Wake Forest College in town, and the college being most all
    of the town in that era, I'm not surprised it's a dry post. (BTW, in
    1956 RJ Reynolds offered the school money earned from tobacco under the
    proviso that they move to Winston-Salem. They moved, and became WF
    University, just to confuse everybody.) Every so often when our quilting
    group was meeting at the post, we'd have someone come to the door,
    asking if there was a bar and if so, could he (never she) get a drink.
    We turned away a number of disappointed guys. (G)


    Title: Bob Evans Sausage Cups
    1/2 c Ranch Dressing

    I'm not sure how ranch dressing would work in this. I know you need something to bind the sausage and cheese together but the flavor of
    ranch dressing seems incompatable.

    I didn't see that until you mentioned. I'd just leave it out since
    ranch disgusts me.

    It's not our favorite either. I'll put it on a salad if there's no other
    choice or if the other choice is something I dislike more so, like bleu
    cheese. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Shawn Highfield on Thu Jul 22 16:10:06 2021
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    No smoking in doors in any public building in Ontario. You're not even allowed to smoke in a car if there are children with you. (Not that I
    can see the police bothering with that rule)

    I believe that is the same in Tennessee except you are allowed to smoke
    in your car without issue.

    Lots of people do... My mother loves it.

    Really? Everyone I've ever told here thinks I'm crazy (and they might
    be correct).

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Classic Mexican Flan
    Categories: Mexican, Desserts
    Yield: 8 Servings

    1/2 c Sugar
    1 c Milk
    3 ea Yolks of large eggs
    1 t Vanilla extract
    14 oz Can sweetened condensed milk
    3 ea Large eggs plus
    1/2 t Almond extract

    In a small saucepan melt sugar over moderate heat, stirring
    frequently, until sugar is a dark, caramel-colored liquid. Remove
    from heay and pur into a 4 cup metal ring mold or 8 individual molds.
    Quickly turn mold to coat bottom and sides with the caramel. Let cool
    so caramel hardens. Heat oven to 325. Put the condensed milk, milk,
    eggs, egg yolks and flavorings into an electric blender. Cover and
    blend to mix well. Pour mixture into mold; put mold in a larger pan
    filled with water to depth of 1/2 inch. Bake for 1 hour. Remove from
    oven and remove mold from water. Cool and then refrigerate up to 2
    days. Cover mold with an inverted serving platter. Hold mold and
    platter together and turn them over. Lift off mold. Caramel will fall
    as a liquid sauce over the custard.

    MMMMM

    -- Sean


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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Jul 22 16:37:14 2021
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    We turned away a number of disappointed guys. (G)

    I will be joining the AL post as soon as I can. I shall report in.

    Side note: I called the manufacturers of the Scamp travel trailer.
    There is now a two-year waiting period for new custom-made Scamps!

    It's not our favorite either. I'll put it on a salad if there's no
    other choice or if the other choice is something I dislike more so,
    like bleu cheese. (G)

    I am not a fan of blue cheese either so I'd just skip them both. I am
    not trying to pooh-pooh ranch or blue cheese ... just not my thing.

    Here's something I'd make though I'd leave out the tomatoes since they aggravate my ulcer:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Corned Beef Supper Casserole
    Categories: Meats
    Yield: 8 servings

    1 tb Cooking oil
    1 md Onion, diced
    12 oz Can corned beef, chill/dice
    1 cn Cream of celery or cream of
    Mushroom soup
    3/4 c Water
    1 ts Gravy Master or Kitchen
    Bouquet
    1/4 ts Coarse ground black pepper
    4 c Cooked dry rice, long grain
    2 md Tomatoes, cut in 1/2" slices
    1/2 c Fine dry bread crumbs
    1/2 c Cheddar cheese, grated

    Saute onion in cooking oil until golden yellow. Add corned beef.
    Stir lightly until heated through. Combine soup, water, Gravy Master
    and pepper, stirring only to blend. Spread rice in a greased 13 by 9
    by 2 inch baking dish. Spoon corned beef mixture over rice. Top
    with tomato slices. Sprinkle with bread crumbs and cheese. Bake,
    covered with foil at 375 degrees for 20 minutes. Uncover. Bake an
    additional 5 minutes to lightly brown the tops of the tomatoes.
    Serves 8 generously. Serve with a big bowl of slaw, garlic toast,
    beverage and a light fruit dessert.

    MMMMM

    --Sean


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Sean Dennis on Fri Jul 23 16:13:39 2021
    Hi Sean,

    We turned away a number of disappointed guys. (G)

    I will be joining the AL post as soon as I can. I shall report in.

    If it's anything like ours, you will enjoy being a member. They
    recruited Steve for several years before he finally transferred his membership--couldn't earlier because of needing to devote full time &
    attention to schoolwork.


    Side note: I called the manufacturers of the Scamp travel trailer.
    There is now a two-year waiting period for new custom-made Scamps!

    I'm not surprised, a lot of families discovered that RVs/travel trailers
    make for an easy to social distance a vacation last year. We could
    probably make some money renting out our R-Pod but haven't gone that
    route.

    It's not our favorite either. I'll put it on a salad if there's no
    other choice or if the other choice is something I dislike more so,
    like bleu cheese. (G)

    I am not a fan of blue cheese either so I'd just skip them both. I am
    not trying to pooh-pooh ranch or blue cheese ... just not my thing.

    Same here; I can take them in small amounts but given a choice, I will
    more than likely go with the alternate.

    Here's something I'd make though I'd leave out the tomatoes since they aggravate my ulcer:

    Steve usually gives his tomatoes to me as they aggravate his arthritis.


    Title: Corned Beef Supper Casserole
    Categories: Meats
    Yield: 8 servings


    We bought the canned corned beef years ago but haven't in decades. Now
    we buy the raw beef and cook it ourselves, with cabbage, carrots,
    potatoes and sometimes an onion.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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