• Your opinion

    From Moderator@1:18/200 to All on Mon Jul 19 18:25:28 2021
    <moderator message begins>
    Hello everyone,

    With the current discussion about this echo, HOME_COOKING, and RECIPES in here, I would like to ask if you, the echo participants, would care if UDD started posting his recipes in here. I agree with everyone that spreading things out over three echoes instead of one is silly these days, however, it has always been my interpretation that "mass" (I use the term loosely) posting of recipes in here has been verboten.

    The current message limit in here is 20 messages a day. Dave generally will post about that many messages with his recipes.

    Personally, I don't mind the recipes as I save most of what he posts (though that might change now with him providing me a copy of his recipe databases). I also think that seeing these recipes in here might bring new people into the echo.

    My question to you is should the rules be modified at all? As moderator, from what I understand of the echo rules, Dave would technically not be breaking them by doing his posts.

    I value everyone's opinion. If you don't want to discuss this publicly, please netmail (preferred) or email me.
    </moderator message ends>

    -- Sean

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Moderator on Tue Jul 20 11:28:28 2021
    Moderator wrote to All <=-

    that spreading things out over three echoes instead of one is silly
    these days, however, it has always been my interpretation that "mass"
    (I use the term loosely) posting of recipes in here has been verboten.

    Doesn't bother me. I skim them all in the other echo anyway. Generally
    save things that look interesting.

    My question to you is should the rules be modified at all? As
    moderator, from what I understand of the echo rules, Dave would technically not be breaking them by doing his posts.

    My opnion is do whatever is easier. ie: I kind of like the idea of
    reading just one echo instead of two. However I use offline mail and
    it's super fast and easy to skip the messages I don't want to read.

    Shawn

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Moderator on Tue Jul 20 07:31:00 2021
    Moderator wrote to All <=-

    With the current discussion about this echo, HOME_COOKING, and RECIPES
    in here, I would like to ask if you, the echo participants, would care
    if UDD started posting his recipes in here.

    I don't know who UDD is, but it sounds like this person could come close to doubling the number of postings per day in the echo.

    If they all come from the same from: address or are sortable by subject it'd make it easier to sort them in an offline reader. It'd be nice to have the content and be able to sort between bulk recipe posting and conversations in the echo.




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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Moderator on Tue Jul 20 20:58:34 2021
    Moderator wrote to All <=-

    <moderator message begins>
    Hello everyone,

    With the current discussion about this echo, HOME_COOKING, and RECIPES
    in here, I would like to ask if you, the echo participants, would care
    if UDD started posting his recipes in here. I agree with everyone
    that spreading things out over three echoes instead of one is silly
    these days, however, it has always been my interpretation that "mass"
    (I use the term loosely) posting of recipes in here has been verboten.

    The proximate reason I post all of those recipes, etc. in Home_Cooking
    and Recipes leads right back to a snarky comment that Weller made about
    them being "dead". And me being a contrarian.

    Whereupon I decided that they're not dead until I say they're dead. But
    truth to tell I get a bit lonely over there. Still, it has been a bit
    of a challenge for me, a non-believer, to keep track of saints days and
    find 10 or more "Burtonized" recipes every day. My "Saints" directory
    in MM has about 6100 recipes in it currently. Not bad for an infidel.

    The current message limit in here is 20 messages a day. Dave generally will post about that many messages with his recipes.

    I dunno as I would post that many in Cooking. I post some "series" but
    mostly they are five-recipes long per subject.

    Personally, I don't mind the recipes as I save most of what he posts (though that might change now with him providing me a copy of his
    recipe databases). I also think that seeing these recipes in here
    might bring new people into the echo.

    My question to you is should the rules be modified at all? As
    moderator, from what I understand of the echo rules, Dave would technically not be breaking them by doing his posts.

    I value everyone's opinion. If you don't want to discuss this
    publicly, please netmail (preferred) or email me. </moderator message
    ends>

    Seriously, you don't have to make any special accommodations for me. I appreciate the thought, though.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Wretched Excess Chanterelle Soup
    Categories: Mushrooms, Vegetables, Poultry, Wine, Nuts
    Yield: 7 servings

    2 c (or more) fresh chanterelles
    2 lg Shallots; fine diced
    3 cl Garlic
    1/2 c Young Sauternes (or other
    - fruitier sweet white, or
    - sherry)
    1 pt Chicken broth
    1 c Cream
    1/4 ts Cayenne
    1/2 c (or more) toasted hazelnuts
    Salt
    Roux

    Cook fresh chanterelles in skillet with light olive oil
    and/or butter with onions and chopped garlic.

    While cooking, in a soup pot, add stock, cream and bring
    to a simmer.

    When moisture has disappeared from chanterelles, pour
    into stock/cream and pour wine into skillet to lift off
    remaining flavor and pour into stock mix. (This is
    called de-glazing the skillet.)

    Crush the hazelnuts, and save some to sprinkle on top at
    service, adding the rest to the soup.

    Add cayenne and adjust cayenne and salt to taste.

    Thicken with roux.

    NOTES: Garnish with a small mint leaf with an eyedropper
    of Frangelico liqueur. Add 1/4 cup of blood orange
    vinegar to white wine.

    Serves 6-8

    Contributed by John-Marc Ventimiglia - Bay Area
    Mycological Society

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.bayareamushrooms.org

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Kurt Weiske on Tue Jul 20 22:02:00 2021
    Kurt Weiske wrote to Moderator <=-

    I don't know who UDD is, but it sounds like this person could come
    close to doubling the number of postings per day in the echo.

    UDD is Dave Drun. His nickname is "Uncle Dirty Dave" as to distinguish
    him from a former member of this echo, "Clean" Dave Sacerdote.

    If they all come from the same from: address or are sortable by subject it'd make it easier to sort them in an offline reader. It'd be nice to have the content and be able to sort between bulk recipe posting and conversations in the echo.

    You're echoing what Shawn said and yes, with an offline reader it's easy
    to skip around to content you want.

    Thanks for your message. I appreciate it.

    -- Sean


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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Tue Jul 20 22:05:02 2021
    Dave Drum wrote to Moderator <=-

    The proximate reason I post all of those recipes, etc. in Home_Cooking
    and Recipes leads right back to a snarky comment that Weller made about them being "dead". And me being a contrarian.

    If you look at the overall Fido statistics, both echoes are far from
    dead. If you are looking at actual "life" in the vein of conversations,
    they are lacking.

    Seriously, you don't have to make any special accommodations for me. I appreciate the thought, though.

    I'm not really trying to make anything special. This is to help me to
    decide on shuttering HOME_COOKING and RECIPES.

    No recipe now. Still working on getting Linux set up and am waiting to
    set up MM then.

    -- Sean


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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Moderator on Wed Jul 21 01:48:04 2021
    On 07-19-21 18:25, Moderator <=-
    spoke to All about Your opinion <=-


    <moderator message begins>
    Hello everyone,

    With the current discussion about this echo, HOME_COOKING,
    and RECIPES in here, I would like to ask if you, the echo
    participants, would care if UDD started posting his recipes
    in here. I agree with everyone that spreading things out
    over three echoes instead of one is silly these days,
    however, it has always been my interpretation that "mass"
    (I use the term loosely) posting of recipes in here has
    been verboten.

    The current message limit in here is 20 messages a day.

    It used to be a soft unofficial limit until someone started flooding the
    echo with 50+ recipes.

    Dave generally will post about that many messages with his
    recipes.

    Often more. Today the number was 45.

    Personally, I don't mind the recipes as I save most of what
    he posts (though that might change now with him providing
    me a copy of his recipe databases). I also think that

    It was my understanding that Dave (and Jim Weller) were finding current
    recipes in a variety of sources. Dave may or may not include them in
    his data base -- ask him.

    seeing these recipes in here might bring new people into
    the echo.

    The new posters in Recipes has been nil, in Home_cooking there were a
    rare few who did not stick around.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Beef and Cabbage Joes
    Categories: Sandwich, Hamburger, Beef, Boat
    Yield: 8 servings

    1 lb Ground beef
    1 Medium onion,chopped
    1/2 c Thinly sliced celery
    2 c Shredded cabbage
    1/3 c Chopped green pepper
    3/4 c Catsup
    1/4 c Water
    1/4 ts Salt
    1 tb Prepared mustard
    8 Hamburger buns,split/toasted

    Cook and stir meat, onion and celery in large skillet until meat is
    brown. Drain off fat. Stir in cabbage, green pepper, catsup, water,
    salt and mustard; heat to boiling, stirring occasionally. Reduce
    heat; cover and simmer until vegetables are tender, about 25 minutes.
    Spoon mixture onto bottom halves of buns; top with remaining halves.
    From: Michael Orchekowski
    ~--

    MMMMM


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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Dale Shipp on Wed Jul 21 10:50:22 2021
    Dale Shipp wrote to Moderator <=-

    Dave generally will post about that many messages with his
    recipes.

    Often more. Today the number was 45.

    That's across two echoes. And five of the posts in Home_Cooking were
    also in Cooking.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Mango Cobbler
    Categories: Desserts, Pies, Fruits, Citrus
    Yield: 6 Servings

    2 Mangoes; peeled, pitted,
    - sliced
    2 tb Lime juice
    1/2 ts Ground nutmeg
    1 c Flour
    2 ts Baking powder
    1/4 ts Salt
    1/2 c Brown sugar
    3 tb Butter; softened
    1/2 c Milk

    Set oven @ 375ºF/190ºC. Combine mangoes, lime juice, and
    nutmeg in mixing bowl. Spoon fruit into lightly greased 8"
    square baking pan. Combine flour, baking powder, salt and
    brown sugar in mixing bowl. With pastry cutter, cut
    butter into flour until mixture resembles coarse meal.
    Stir in milk; blend batter until smooth. Spread batter
    evenly over fruit. Bake cobbler for 20-25 mins. or until
    lightly browned on top. Allow to cool a few min., then cut.

    Serve warm with yogurt, ice cream, or whipped topping.

    Source: Home Cooking, 3/96

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Moderator on Tue Jul 20 12:31:49 2021
    Hi Sean,

    M > <moderator message begins>
    M > Hello everyone,

    M > With the current discussion about this echo, HOME_COOKING, and RECIPES
    M > in here, I would like to ask if you, the echo participants, would care
    M > if UDD started posting his recipes in here. I agree with everyone
    M > that spreading things out over three echoes instead of one is silly
    M > these days, however, it has always been my interpretation that "mass"
    M > (I use the term loosely) posting of recipes in here has been verboten.

    M > The current message limit in here is 20 messages a day. Dave
    M > generally will post about that many messages with his recipes.

    M > Personally, I don't mind the recipes as I save most of what he posts
    M > (though that might change now with him providing me a copy of his
    M > recipe databases). I also think that seeing these recipes in here
    M > might bring new people into the echo.

    M > My question to you is should the rules be modified at all? As
    M > moderator, from what I understand of the echo rules, Dave would
    M > technically not be breaking them by doing his posts.

    M > I value everyone's opinion. If you don't want to discuss this
    M > publicly, please netmail (preferred) or email me.
    M > </moderator message ends>


    Just a few thoughts: If it's just recipies, I'd limit it to maybe 10 or
    15 a day. I was on the Home Cooking echo for a while, usually just
    blasted thru a mass posting. I do likewise here--will look at the title
    and go on to the next. Also, if it's National Something or Other Day, I
    don't think we need a lot of (similar) recipies, basically the same but
    for a minor ingredient or two. Maybe I've gotten pickier over the years
    but I don't collect recipies as much as I used to, even a few years ago.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dale Shipp on Wed Jul 21 13:56:59 2021
    Hello Dale,

    Wednesday July 21 2021 01:48, you wrote to Moderator:

    The new posters in Recipes has been nil, in Home_cooking there were a
    rare few who did not stick around.

    Thank you for making my point for me about removing the other two echoes. :D

    As many of us use offline readers, it would be very easy to skip over recipes.

    I now have somewhere around 120,000 recipes in my own database in MM before adding in Dave's, Bill's, and Jim's. When I get it all together, I should be north of 250,000 recipes (with dupes, of course).

    I just don't want to change things in here, piss people off and drop out of the echo because of recipes. I think it's silly to have three echoes for the traffic of one echo and would rather have the traffic in here. I can keep HOME_COOKING and RECIPES as placeholders in the Elist for further development later.

    This is something I'll figure out eventually.

    A local eatery makes excellent muffalettas. Haven't had one in a while.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: MUFFALETTA
    Categories: Sandwich, Main dish
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1 1-lb brown-and-serve
    Foccaccia
    1 md Clove garlic, peeled and
    Finely minced, or forced
    Through a press
    1 6-oz jar marinated artichoke
    Hearts, drained
    1 3 1/2-oz drained weight can
    Pitted black olives, drained
    1/2 c Pimento-stuffed green olives
    2 Anchovy fillets, rinsed and
    Patted dry
    1 tb Drained capers
    1 ts Dried oregano, crushed
    1/4 ts Cayenne pepper
    Freshly ground black pepper
    To taste
    8 oz Thinly sliced cooked turkey
    Or chicken breast
    8 oz Thinly sliced provolone
    Cheese
    8 oz Thinly sliced black forest
    Ham

    1. Bake the foccaccia according to package directions. Cool and
    slice into halves. 2. Combine the garlic, artichoke hearts, black and
    green olives, anchovies, capers, oregano, cayenne and black pepper.
    Process to finely chop. 3. Spread half of the olive relish on the
    botton half of the foccaccia. Top with layers of turkey or chicken,
    provolone and ham. Spread with the remaining olive relish and replace
    with the top of the foccaccia. 4. Wrap the foccaccia in foil, place
    in refrigerator and weight down with a couple of cans. Chill several
    hours or overnight. Cut into wedges before serving. Makes 6 to 8
    servings.

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Wed Jul 21 14:08:52 2021
    Hello Dave,

    Wednesday July 21 2021 10:50, you wrote to Dale Shipp:

    That's across two echoes. And five of the posts in Home_Cooking were
    also in Cooking.

    That's a lot of work to post those recipes. I don't see anyone else putting forth that kind of effort anymore.

    While this looks good, using "extra-lean" meat in burgers is like chewing on rubber IMNSHO. I made that mistake once with grilling turkey burgers.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Greek Burgers
    Categories: Diabetic, Main dish, Meats, Sandwiches, Low-fat/cal
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 lb Extra-lean ground beef;
    1 cl Garlic; minced
    2 tb Fresh lemon juice;
    1 ts Dried oregano leaves;
    1/4 ts Ground cumin;
    1/4 ts Ground pepper;
    1 md Size plum tomato;
    2 tb Flat-leaf parsley; minced
    4 6" whole-wheat pita pocket;
    -breads;
    Romaine lettuce lea;
    1 sm Red onion;

    Mix ground beef, garlic; lemon juice, oregano leaves; cumin, pepper,
    plum tomato, and parsley. Form into 4 patties about 3/4" thick.
    Grill or broil, 4" from souce of heat, ofr 3 minutes, for 3 minutes
    on each side for medium-rare. Cut the top thrie off each of four 6"
    whole-wheat pita pocket breads. Turn the cut-off piece round side
    down; tuck inside to pocket bread to reinforce bottom. Place a
    grilled burger in each pocket bread along with a romaine lettuce leaf
    and paper-thin slices from 1 sm red onion. Pass 1/4 cup Cilantro
    Chutney (page 218) to spoon into burgers. Note: These hamburgers
    could be made with lean ground lamb. The exchanges would stay the
    same, but lamb add 17 calories and 2 grams of fat (mostly saturated
    fat) per serving Joslin Food Exchanges per serving: 3 MEDIUM/FAT MEAT
    EXCHANGES + 2 BREAD/ STARCH EXCHANGES CAL: 346 PRO: 27; CAR: 26g;
    FAT: 15g;(CALORIES FROM FAT 39%) FIR: 2g; CHO: 54mg; SODIUM: 285mg;
    POTASSIUM: 441mg;

    Source: The Joslin Diabetes Groumet Cookbook Brought to you and yours
    via Nancy O'Brion and her Meal-Master

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Jul 21 14:15:04 2021
    Hello Ruth,

    Tuesday July 20 2021 12:31, you wrote to Moderator:

    Just a few thoughts: If it's just recipies, I'd limit it to maybe 10
    or 15 a day. I was on the Home Cooking echo for a while, usually just blasted thru a mass posting. I do likewise here--will look at the
    title and go on to the next. Also, if it's National Something or Other Day, I don't think we need a lot of (similar) recipies, basically the
    same but for a minor ingredient or two. Maybe I've gotten pickier over
    the years but I don't collect recipies as much as I used to, even a
    few years ago.

    I do that a lot here (skipping messages) though I do speedread through many, being the moderator. Normally I will look at the title of a message though I know how we don't usually change the subject line when we change subjects in a conversation here in COOKING, which is fine by me.

    As for the recipes, I look at it like this: it's on-topic, contributes to the echo, and isn't spam (unless it is SPAM). Dave has also said he'd not post that many recipes in here and so far, since I've been moderator, he's stuck to the echo rules about posting mass recipes.

    What I don't want is to close down HOME_COOKING and RECIPES then have people in the echo get mad at me for changing things around and leaving. I understand natural attrition of the echo participants but I don't want to force anyone away either. I have been in this echo for a long time and feel I know which way the wind is blowing on my question but I'd like to come to a consensus before I do anything.

    Here's a recipe just for you. <G>

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: North Carolina Chopped Barbecued Pork
    Categories: Crockpot, Main dish, Pork, Sandwich
    Yield: 3 Servings

    1 1/2 lb Pork shoulder roast
    1/2 ts Salt
    1/2 ts Celery seed
    1/16 ts Cinnamon, ground
    3/16 c Vinegar, cider
    1/4 c Catsup
    1/4 ts Chili powder
    1/4 ts Nutmeg, ground
    1/4 ts Sugar
    1/2 c Water
    Vinegar, cider; to taste
    Sauce, Tabasco; to taste

    Brown roast in a small amount of fat and place in a Dutch oven. Mix
    the next 9 ingredients in a saucepan and bring to a boil. Pour over
    roast and cover. Bake in a preheated 325^ oven, 40 minutes to the
    pound, until done, basting occasionally with drippings.

    Transfer roast to a chopping board. Remove meat from the bone and
    chop into fairly fine pieces. Season to taste with additional vinegar
    and hot sauce. Serve hot with coleslaw and corn bread.

    Sylvia's comments: I found some stew pork marked WAY down, bought
    several packages ($.99/lb!) and stuck them in the freezer. Then I
    put all the ingredients, including the still-frozen pork, in the
    crockpot this morning. Tonight it was done, I just mashed up the meat
    with a fork and knife and served it over rice. The vinegar produces
    a very interesting taste. However, it came out kind of soupy; next
    time I'll leave out the water and increase the catsup.

    This is the most popular barbecue dish in North Carolina, and, as far
    as we know, it is indigenous to that state.

    FROM: Spoonbread and Strawberry Wine

    Apple's comments: I made this for supper tonight and it is GOOD! :)

    Posted on GEnie Food & Wine RT Apr 22, 1993 by J.APPLEBURY From:
    Sylvia Steiger From: Awilson@tfs.Net Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 10:56:26
    ~0500

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Sean Dennis on Thu Jul 22 00:09:04 2021
    On 07-21-21 13:56, Sean Dennis <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Your opinion <=-

    I now have somewhere around 120,000 recipes in my own database in MM before adding in Dave's, Bill's, and Jim's. When I get it all
    together, I should be north of 250,000 recipes (with dupes,
    of course).

    I gave up collecting recipes two decades ago. I have no idea how many I
    have.

    I just don't want to change things in here, piss people off
    and drop out of the echo because of recipes. I think it's
    silly to have three echoes for the traffic of one echo and
    would rather have the traffic in here. I can keep
    HOME_COOKING and RECIPES as placeholders in the Elist for
    further development later.

    The thing for you to ponder is:
    would merging HC with COOKING bring in users or send them away?

    Keeping COOKING as it is and having HC as a separate echo does not have
    the danger of sending current users away. If HC might attract a new
    user (and it has done so a few times) then that person could be
    encouraged to come on over and join COOKING.

    This is something I'll figure out eventually.

    A local eatery makes excellent muffalettas. Haven't had one in a
    while.

    If you have someplace that makes excellent muffalettas, then encourage
    them by eating there. Times are hard on small restaurants. Gail and I
    really like muffalettas, and always split a half when we go to New
    Orleans. We have tried them at a lot of other places and they fail on
    one thing or another. Usually the failure is the bread. Second is the
    olive salad. We have found a very good jarred olive salad at Costco.
    It only takes a table spoon or two to brighten up any meat sandwich.

    Here is my edit of a recipe for Muffaletta, I've removed the original
    olive salad part of the recipe and left only the meats part -- which I
    also feel is an important third necessary feature for a good one.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Muffuletta Sandwich
    Categories: Sandwich, Olive, New orleans
    Yield: 4 servings

    MMMMM--------------------------SANDWICH-------------------------------
    1 Round loaf italian bread
    1/4 lb Mortadella, thinly sliced
    1/4 lb Ham, thinly sliced
    1/4 lb Hard Genoa salami, thinly
    -sliced
    1/4 lb Mozzarella cheese, sliced
    1/4 lb Provolone cheese,sliced
    1 c Olive salad with oil

    To make a Muffuletta sandwich:
    Split a muffuletta loaf or a loaf of Italian bread horizontally.
    Spread each half with equal parts of olive salad and oil. Place
    meats and cheeses evenly on bottom half and cover with top half
    of bread. Cut in quarters. Enjoy!

    Serves four timid dieters, two hearty New Orleanians or one
    incredible maiale.

    While Central Grocery do not give out their muffuletta olive salad
    recipe, lots of folks have tried to duplicate it, with varying degrees
    of success. I've been saying for years now that I'm going to get a jar
    of olive salad from Central and reverse-engineer it, but until then,
    this will do quite nicely.

    New Orleanian cook and cookbook author Chiqui Collier was kind
    enough to share this recipe with me for this site, and says, "It
    is my pleasure to send you the recipe for the original muffletta
    sandwich that was created by the grandfather of a lady i worked
    with 28 years ago." (Presumably that was Signor Salvadore.)

    "The recipe for the olive salad is the exact way it was given to me.
    It makes over a gallon. It stores very well in the refrigerator for
    many months and makes great gifts along with the recipe for the
    sandwich.

    It does appear in the cookbook, "Cookery N'Orleans Style"
    by Chiqui Pumilia Collier.

    from gumbopages dot com

    MMMMM


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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Sean Dennis on Thu Jul 22 00:05:06 2021
    On 07-21-21 13:56, Sean Dennis <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Your opinion <=-

    And just in case you can't find a Costco, or have a lot of ambition,
    here is the olive salad that was included in that original recipe.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Muffuletta Olive Salad
    Categories: Sandwich, Olive, New orleans
    Yield: 4 servings

    MMMMM------------------------OLIVE SALAD-----------------------------
    1 ga Large pimento stuffed green
    -olives, slightly crushed
    -and well drained
    1 qt Jar pickled cauliflower,
    -drained and sliced
    2 sm Jars capers, drained
    1 Whole stalk celery, sliced
    -diagonally
    4 lg Carrots, peeled and thinly
    -sliced diagonally
    1 sm Jar celery seeds
    1 sm Jar oregano
    1 lg Head fresh garlic, peeled
    -and minced
    1 ts Freshly ground black pepper
    1 Jar pepperoncini, drained
    -(small salad peppers) left
    -whole
    1 lb Large Greek black olives
    1 Jar cocktail onions,
    -drained

    To make the olive salad:
    Combine all ingredients in a large bowl or pot and mix well.
    Place in a large jar and cover with 1/2 olive oil and 1/2 Crisco
    oil. Store tightly covered in refrigerator. Allow to marinate
    for at least 24 hours before using.

    While Central Grocery do not give out their muffuletta olive salad
    recipe, lots of folks have tried to duplicate it, with varying degrees
    of success. I've been saying for years now that I'm going to get a jar
    of olive salad from Central and reverse-engineer it, but until then,
    this will do quite nicely.

    New Orleanian cook and cookbook author Chiqui Collier was kind
    enough to share this recipe with me for this site, and says, "It
    is my pleasure to send you the recipe for the original muffletta
    sandwich that was created by the grandfather of a lady i worked
    with 28 years ago." (Presumably that was Signor Salvadore.)

    "The recipe for the olive salad is the exact way it was given to me.
    It makes over a gallon. It stores very well in the refrigerator for
    many months and makes great gifts along with the recipe for the
    sandwich.

    It does appear in the cookbook, "Cookery N'Orleans Style"
    by Chiqui Pumilia Collier.

    from gumbopages dot com

    MMMMM



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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Sean Dennis on Thu Jul 22 11:08:32 2021
    Sean Dennis wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    That's across two echoes. And five of the posts in Home_Cooking were
    also in Cooking.

    That's a lot of work to post those recipes. I don't see anyone else putting forth that kind of effort anymore.

    While this looks good, using "extra-lean" meat in burgers is like
    chewing on rubber IMNSHO. I made that mistake once with grilling
    turkey burgers.

    When banging in recipes I generally leave out or modify terms like
    "extra lean" or "fat-free" generally with an "*". Much like I ditch
    the "Kosher" on salt calls that are not accompanied by a specific
    measure. Same for "Sea Salt". All salt is "sea salt" at its root. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Greek Burgers
    Categories: Diabetic, Main dish, Meats, Sandwiches, Low-fat/cal
    Yield: 4 Servings

    8<----- CUT ----->B

    Source: The Joslin Diabetes Groumet Cookbook Brought to you and
    yours via Nancy O'Brion and her Meal-Master

    MMMMM

    Nancy posted a lot of diabetic recipes - oftem cross-posting between
    here and the Diabetic echo. And many, if not most, parroted the "wisdom"
    of the moment and touched all or most of the "hot buttons". I take them
    with a grain of (verboten) salt.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Skillet Steak w/Mushroom Sauce
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Mushrooms
    Yield: 4 Servings

    12 oz Boneless top sirloin; 1"
    - thick, trimmed
    2 ts Salt-free steak grilling
    - seasoning
    2 ts Canola oil
    6 oz Broccoli rabe; trimmed
    2 c Peas; frozen or fresh
    3 c Sliced fresh mushrooms
    1 c Unsalted beef broth
    1 tb Whole-grain mustard
    2 ts Cornstarch
    1/4 ts Salt

    Set oven @ 350ºF/175ºC.

    Sprinkle meat with steak seasoning. In a 12" cast-iron
    skillet heat oil over medium-high. Add meat and broccoli
    rabe. Cook 4 minutes, turning broccoli rabe once (do not
    turn meat). Place peas around meat. Transfer skillet to
    oven and bake 8 minutes or until meat is medium-rare.
    Remove meat and vegetables from skillet; cover and keep
    warm.

    For sauce, add mushrooms to drippings in skillet. Cook
    over medium-high 3 minutes, stirring occasionally. Whisk
    together the beef broth, mustard, cornstarch and salt;
    stir into mushrooms. Cook and stir until thick and
    bubbly. Cook and stir 1 minute more. Serve meat and
    vegetables with sauce.

    By DIABETIC LIVING MAGAZINE

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.eatingwell.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Jul 22 11:16:46 2021
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Moderator <=-

    Just a few thoughts: If it's just recipies, I'd limit it to maybe 10 or
    15 a day. I was on the Home Cooking echo for a while, usually just
    blasted thru a mass posting. I do likewise here--will look at the title and go on to the next. Also, if it's National Something or Other Day, I don't think we need a lot of (similar) recipies, basically the same but for a minor ingredient or two. Maybe I've gotten pickier over the years but I don't collect recipies as much as I used to, even a few years
    ago.

    Do you even read the "National" (or International) Day recipes. I post
    those to be interesting and *varied*. They have the common thread of
    whatever it's the "National Day" of.

    Yesterday's haul of BLT recipes included:

    Title: Terrace On Main's BLT On A Cheddar Cheese Waffle
    Title: BBLT Sandwich
    Title: BLT Pasta
    Title: Mary Ann's BLT Catfish Sandwiches
    and
    Title: B.O.L.T (Bacon, Oyster, Lettuce, Tomato)

    I'd say that was fairly diverse.

    Tomorrow's haul is Vanilla Ice Cream. Not a dupe in a carload.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Duplicate
    Categories: Pasta, Vegetables, Cheese, Herbs
    Yield: 5 Servings

    12 oz Box Barilla Whole Grain
    - Spaghetti
    1 cl Garlic; minced
    2 ts Extra virgin olive oil
    1 pt Cherry tomatoes; halved
    Salt & fresh ground pepper
    6 Leaves basil; in thin strips
    1/2 c Parmesan cheese; grated

    Cook the pasta according to the directions on the box.
    Drain well.

    Combine the garlic, herbs, tomatoes and a pinch of salt
    in a microwaveable bowl. Add the pasta, making sure it's
    completely coated in the sauce so it doesn't dry out.

    Cover the bowl with cling film then pierce a few times
    in the centre. Put kitchen paper on your microwave plate
    to absorb any spills then place the bowl on top and cook
    on High for 2 mins. Carefully peel back the cling film
    and stir well. Add 5 tb water and stir again, then
    replace the film and leave to stand for 1 min.

    Serve on plates passing the Parmesan, salt and pepper.

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.foodnetwork.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Thu Jul 22 16:04:04 2021
    Dave Drum wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    When banging in recipes I generally leave out or modify terms like
    "extra lean" or "fat-free" generally with an "*". Much like I ditch
    the "Kosher" on salt calls that are not accompanied by a specific
    measure. Same for "Sea Salt". All salt is "sea salt" at its root. Bv)=

    Yep, salt is salt to me.

    Nancy posted a lot of diabetic recipes - oftem cross-posting between
    here and the Diabetic echo. And many, if not most, parroted the
    "wisdom" of the moment and touched all or most of the "hot buttons". I take them with a grain of (verboten) salt.

    Like the saying goes, we know so much that isn't so. Side note: while I
    am careful on salt intake because of my poor health, I take 400mg of
    magnesium bisglycinate in chelated form (high absorption). It is
    suspected I have very low levels of magnesium but I can tell you that in
    the past month I have taken magnesium, I am feeling better. I cannot
    explain exactly how but there are subtle differences in mood, energy,
    and sleep. I also no longer am having myopathy from taking a statin and metformin together (pain in my thighs).

    As for diabetic "wisdom", I don't always trust the experts. I do my own research. I am lucky that my medical team understands me and my
    curmudgeonly nature and works with me. <G> But I will say that I am
    trying to get better. I can't undo a lot of the damage that has been
    done but I can stop further damage.

    This recipe is listed as diabetic though the brown rice packs some
    serious carbs but less than white rice. This is still a tasty recipe in
    my opinion though and something I would definitely make.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: BLACK BEANS AND RICE
    Categories: Diabetic, Rice, Beans, Vegetarian
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 lb Black beans;
    1 ts Oregano;
    1 lg Onion; chopped
    3 Bay leaves;
    1 cl Garlic;
    1/2 c Vinegar;
    1 Green pepper; chopped
    2 c Cooked brown rice;
    2 ts Olive oil;
    1 Ham hock; trim fat

    Wash the beans and soak overnight in 2 quarts of cold water. Saute the
    onion ( and it's just as good if you leave the onion raw), garlic and
    pepper in the oil. Combine all the ingredients except the vinegar and
    rice, and cook over low heat until the beans are tender. Add the
    vinegar and serve over the rice.

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dale Shipp on Thu Jul 22 16:27:10 2021
    Dale Shipp wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    I gave up collecting recipes two decades ago. I have no idea how many
    I have.

    I did collect quite a few recipes because it is so easy to do so these
    days but with Jim's, UDD's, and hopefully Bill's collections, along with
    the 100,000+ or so recipes I have, I don't think I need to collect
    anymore except those that really catch my eye.

    Keeping COOKING as it is and having HC as a separate echo does not have the danger of sending current users away. If HC might attract a new
    user (and it has done so a few times) then that person could be
    encouraged to come on over and join COOKING.

    Dave has said he agrees with you so I will keep H_C though I may change
    the rules to allow discussion of homebrewing of alcohol (beer and wine)
    since that seems to be popular. I will not do that here.

    If you have someplace that makes excellent muffalettas, then encourage them by eating there. Times are hard on small restaurants. Gail and I really like muffalettas, and always split a half when we go to New Orleans. We have tried them at a lot of other places and they fail on
    one thing or another. Usually the failure is the bread. Second is the olive salad. We have found a very good jarred olive salad at Costco.
    It only takes a table spoon or two to brighten up any meat sandwich.

    I would if I could. I have not had an income since January of 2020 when
    I was forced to quit my job due to my Charcot foot. I have not had any
    income since. I am still waiting, nine months later, on Social Security
    about my claim though their website says they're 90% done with
    processing my claim ... I'll believe it when I see it. This
    particular eatery, Cootie Brown's, in Johnson City, is one I'd
    definitely visit weekly. They also ship nationwide.

    https://www.cootiebrowns.com/

    Here is my edit of a recipe for Muffaletta, I've removed the original olive salad part of the recipe and left only the meats part -- which I also feel is an important third necessary feature for a good one.

    That looks delicious! I'll add it to my collection. :)

    On a side note, all of this programming has got me to thinking about
    writing my own version of Meal-Master and using a Sqlite database for
    holding large single databases and fast search response time. Why?
    Just because.

    Here's a muffaletta recipe similar to yours:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Nancy's Fabulous Muffaletta Sandwiches
    Categories: Italian
    Yield: 6 Servings

    3 lg Garlic cloves, crushed
    1 c Chopped green olives stuffed
    -with pimientos
    1 c Pitted and chopped
    -"black-ripe" olives or
    -Calamatas
    1/2 c Roasted sweet red peppers,
    -chopped
    1 c Olive oil
    3 tb Chopped fresh parsley
    2 tb White wine vinegar
    1/3 lb Salami
    1/2 lb Provolone Cheese
    1/2 lb Mild Cheese
    1/3 lb Mortadella Cheese
    1/3 lb Prosciutto

    The roasted red peppers are Italian-style, available at many Italian
    delis. When you're ready for a sandwich the next day, assemble the
    following:

    One loaf fresh Italian bread (one big round for a monster, individual
    hero (grinder, sub,...) loaves will do fine for smaller sandwiches)

    Cut the loaf (loaves) in half, and scoop out a little of the
    inside to make some room. Drizzle some of the olive oil and juice
    from the olive salad on each side of the open loaf -- use plenty. On
    the bottom, place some salami, olive salad, provolone, mild
    cheese, and mortadella. Top with the other half loaf. Slice into
    wedges (or eat the individual loaves).

    MMMMM

    -- Sean


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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dale Shipp on Thu Jul 22 16:31:12 2021
    Dale Shipp wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    And just in case you can't find a Costco, or have a lot of ambition,
    here is the olive salad that was included in that original recipe.

    Saved. Thank you!

    One of my favorite meals to make but I leave out the sour cream:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Beef Stroganoff
    Categories: Meats, Main dish, Londontowne
    Yield: 6 servings

    2 lb Beef round steak, cubed
    3 tb Ketchup
    2 tb Flour
    1 ts Paprika
    Salt/pepper
    3 tb Soy sauce
    1 Onion, large/sliced
    1 pt Sour cream
    1 cn Mushrooms, drained

    Cook onion in butter until transparent. Remove from pan. Brown meat
    in same pan. Return onions to pan. Stir in 2 tablespoons flour. Add
    mushrooms, ketchup, paprika and sour cream. Salt and pepper to taste.
    Stir. Turn on low and cook until meat is tender. Serve over cooked
    rice or noodles. If beef mixture seems too thick, add a little milk
    to preferred consistency.

    Mrs. Robert C. Pringle

    MMMMM

    -- Sean


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  • From Richard Miles@1:3634/24 to Moderator on Thu Jul 22 18:32:10 2021
    On 19 Jul 2021, Moderator said the following...

    With the current discussion about this echo, HOME_COOKING, and RECIPES
    in here, I would like to ask if you, the echo participants, would care
    if UDD started posting his recipes in here. I agree with everyone that

    I don't have any problem with it BUT I just mainly lurk here reading messages and looking at different recipes for ideas. Don't really participate all that much.

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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Sean Dennis on Fri Jul 23 10:38:14 2021
    Sean Dennis wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Nancy posted a lot of diabetic recipes - oftem cross-posting between
    here and the Diabetic echo. And many, if not most, parroted the
    "wisdom" of the moment and touched all or most of the "hot buttons". I take them with a grain of (verboten) salt.

    Like the saying goes, we know so much that isn't so. Side note: while
    I am careful on salt intake because of my poor health, I take 400mg of magnesium bisglycinate in chelated form (high absorption). It is suspected I have very low levels of magnesium but I can tell you that
    in the past month I have taken magnesium, I am feeling better. I
    cannot explain exactly how but there are subtle differences in mood, energy, and sleep. I also no longer am having myopathy from taking a statin and metformin together (pain in my thighs).

    Salt doesn't seem to affect my BP. Knock wood. Because salt enhances
    flavours. At one time I used Nu-Salt (potassium chloride) but one need
    be careful as over-salting with that will cause much bitterness. Then
    my cardiologist and I determined that sodium does not have a "negative
    effect" on my blood pressure.

    As for diabetic "wisdom", I don't always trust the experts. I do my
    own research. I am lucky that my medical team understands me and my curmudgeonly nature and works with me. <G> But I will say that I am trying to get better. I can't undo a lot of the damage that has been
    done but I can stop further damage.

    This recipe is listed as diabetic though the brown rice packs some
    serious carbs but less than white rice. This is still a tasty recipe
    in my opinion though and something I would definitely make.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: BLACK BEANS AND RICE
    Categories: Diabetic, Rice, Beans, Vegetarian
    Yield: 4 Servings

    I much prefer red beans in this dish. Here's my recipe

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dave's Red Beans & Rice
    Categories: Beans, Pork, Rice, Chilies, Herbs
    Yield: 12 Servings

    1 lb Red beans; rinsed, rocks
    - picked out and discarded
    1 lg Onion; peeled, chopped
    1 lg Bell pepper; cored, chopped
    2 Ribs celery; chopped
    1 tb Garlic; minced
    1 California bay leaf
    1/2 ts Thyme
    1 tb GFS (Minor's) chicken base
    +=AND=+
    1 tb White miso paste
    +=OR=+
    2 tb GFS (Minor's) chicken base
    1/2 ts Chilli spice
    Salt & pepper
    Cayenne
    Hot pepper sauce
    1 Smoked ham hock
    1 lb Ham chunks
    +=OR=+
    1 lb Smoked sausage; in 1" pcs
    1 c White or brown rice
    1 bn Green onions; chopped,
    - for garnish

    You may soak your beans or not. Put beans in a pot
    and boil hard for five minutes to get starches to
    start converting.

    Drain the beans and put them with water, onions,
    bell pepper, celery, garlic, seasonings and ham hock
    into a large crockpot. Set the pot to high and cover.

    Once the pot has come to a good simmer stir in the
    rice and soup base(s) recover the crockpot and go
    check your email for an hour or so. Then add the ham
    or sausage.

    Cook until beans are tender. If the dish appears too
    "soupy" add a tablespoon or two of arrowroot mixed
    with an equal amount of cold water to thicken.

    Some people smash some beans on the side of the pot to
    thicken gravy.

    Serve in bowls and garnish with the chopped green onion.
    Pass the hot sauce for those who like some more spice.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM


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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Richard Miles on Fri Jul 23 11:10:40 2021
    Richard Miles wrote to Moderator <=-

    With the current discussion about this echo, HOME_COOKING, and RECIPES
    in here, I would like to ask if you, the echo participants, would care
    if UDD started posting his recipes in here. I agree with everyone that

    I don't have any problem with it BUT I just mainly lurk here reading messages and looking at different recipes for ideas. Don't really participate all that much.

    If you're ever looking for a specific recipe (or category) just sing
    out. You'll get lots of action. Bv)=

    "Captain Obvious"? You're not the guy in the silly looking doorman's
    get-up on the commercials, are you?

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Country Captain
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs, Fruits, Curry
    Yield: 9 Servings

    1 1/2 c A-P flour
    1 tb Paprika
    2 ts Salt
    1 ts Fresh ground pepper
    2 (3-1/2 lb) chickens; in
    - serving pieces
    3 tb Oil
    2 tb Unsalted butter
    2 c Chopped yellow onions
    2 c Vhopped bell pepper
    1 c Chopped celery
    1 Bay leaf
    1 tb Curry powder
    1/2 ts Ground dried thyme
    1/4 ts Crushed red pepper
    1 tb Minced garlic
    6 c Canned, whole, peeled
    - tomatoes; crushed w/juice
    1 c Chicken stock
    1 tb Dark brown sugar
    1 c Dried currants
    Steamed white rice; to serve
    6 oz Toasted, slivered almonds;
    - garnish

    Combine the flour, paprika, 1 teaspoon salt and the
    black pepper in a large shallow dish and stir to blend.
    Dredge the chicken pieces in the flour mixture, coating
    evenly. Shake off any excess. Set aside.

    Heat the oil and 1 tablespoon butter in a large heavy
    saucepan over medium-high heat. Cook the chicken, in
    batches, until lightly browned, 3 to 4 minutes per side.
    Transfer the chicken to paper towels to drain; set
    aside.

    Add the remaining tablespoon butter to the saucepan and
    add the onions, bell peppers, celery, bay leaf, curry
    powder, thyme and crushed red pepper. Cook, stirring,
    until the vegetables are soft, about 5 minutes. Add the
    garlic and cook, stirring, until fragrant, about 30
    seconds.

    Add the tomatoes, chicken stock, brown sugar and the
    remaining teaspoon salt. Stir to blend, then reduce the
    heat to medium. Add the chicken and cook, stirring
    occasionally, until very tender but not falling off the
    bones, about 50 minutes. Add the currants and cook 10
    minutes longer. Serve hot over steamed white rice.

    Garnish with the almonds.

    Yield: 8 to 10 servings

    By Emeril Lagasse

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.foodandwine.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Sean Dennis on Thu Jul 22 15:40:36 2021
    Hi Sean,


    Just a few thoughts: If it's just recipies, I'd limit it to maybe 10
    or 15 a day. I was on the Home Cooking echo for a while, usually just blasted thru a mass posting. I do likewise here--will look at the
    title and go on to the next. Also, if it's National Something or Other Day, I don't think we need a lot of (similar) recipies, basically the
    same but for a minor ingredient or two. Maybe I've gotten pickier over
    the years but I don't collect recipies as much as I used to, even a
    few years ago.

    I do that a lot here (skipping messages) though I do speedread through many, being the moderator. Normally I will look at the title of a
    message though I know how we don't usually change the subject line
    when we change subjects in a conversation here in COOKING, which is
    fine by me.

    I know, I'm bad for not changing the subject but it helps me trace a
    line of conversation sometimes. (G)

    As for the recipes, I look at it like this: it's on-topic, contributes
    to the echo, and isn't spam (unless it is SPAM). Dave has also said
    he'd not post that many recipes in here and so far, since I've been moderator, he's stuck to the echo rules about posting mass recipes.

    Yes, he has been pretty good, but for the most part, I'll skim the
    header/first line of his recipe postings, then go on to the next one.


    What I don't want is to close down HOME_COOKING and RECIPES then have people in the echo get mad at me for changing things around and
    leaving. I understand natural attrition of the echo participants but
    I don't want to force anyone away either. I have been in this echo
    for a long time and feel I know which way the wind is blowing on my question but I'd like to come to a consensus before I do anything.

    That's understandable. With fewer participants in the echo, it's easier
    to get a general feel of what's wanted/not wanted. When I first came
    aboard, there were many more participants and a daily log of 100+
    messages wasn't uncommon. We started Fido on a Commodore 64 and it took
    minutes to download packets, using a modem tied to the phone. About 9
    months into it, Steve bought a 286 from DRMO sales and packets
    up/downloaded in seconds. I was on several crafting/sewing related echos
    that are long gone (sort of miss them, but not the cat fights).

    Here's a recipe just for you. <G>

    Title: North Carolina Chopped Barbecued Pork
    Categories: Crockpot, Main dish, Pork, Sandwich
    Yield: 3 Servings

    It's a cousin of pulled pork, good but pulled pork (pulled from a pig
    cooked on a converted drum cooker) is the real thing. (G)


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Jul 22 15:56:05 2021
    Hi Dave,

    Just a few thoughts: If it's just recipies, I'd limit it to maybe 10 or
    15 a day. I was on the Home Cooking echo for a while, usually just
    blasted thru a mass posting. I do likewise here--will look at the title and go on to the next. Also, if it's National Something or Other Day, I don't think we need a lot of (similar) recipies, basically the same but for a minor ingredient or two. Maybe I've gotten pickier over the years but I don't collect recipies as much as I used to, even a few years
    ago.

    Do you even read the "National" (or International) Day recipes. I post

    I'll skim the title and first line or so but unless there's something
    that catches my eye, I'll move on to the next message.

    those to be interesting and *varied*. They have the common thread of whatever it's the "National Day" of.

    Do you have a calendar listing of the different "days" or use the
    internet?


    Yesterday's haul of BLT recipes included:

    Title: Terrace On Main's BLT On A Cheddar Cheese Waffle
    Title: BBLT Sandwich
    Title: BLT Pasta
    Title: Mary Ann's BLT Catfish Sandwiches
    and
    Title: B.O.L.T (Bacon, Oyster, Lettuce, Tomato)

    I'd say that was fairly diverse.

    Yes, but you forgot the MLT from "The Princess Bride". (G)


    Tomorrow's haul is Vanilla Ice Cream. Not a dupe in a carload.

    If they're nothing but vanilla, I'll probably do my usual skim. I'm not
    a fan of vanilla, much prefer chocolate as my "go to". OTOH, Steve would
    rather go for vanilla, over chocolate. (G)


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Jul 23 18:11:04 2021
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    I know, I'm bad for not changing the subject but it helps me trace a
    line of conversation sometimes. (G)

    That's why I've never said anything about changing subject lines as I
    know that's how we all keep track of stuff in here. If I am reading
    mail on the BBS online or using GoldEd+ or FleetStreet, I have the
    message base threaded so I can easily follow the thread. With
    FleetStreet, it has a very nice GUI and you can have a separate window
    to follow threads. I normally use my Windows machine right now with
    offline mail since I have both computers on a KVM. Once the BBS is set
    up on its own, I probably will read mail directly on the BBS machine
    though once I get a car and a better laptop, I may be out and about more
    and working with offline mail then too.

    If that does happen, I will set things up so I can access my master MM databases as long as I can get online. It will save me from having to
    keep three different MM installs updated individually.

    Yes, he has been pretty good, but for the most part, I'll skim the header/first line of his recipe postings, then go on to the next one.

    I do that also and save the ones I like.

    It's a cousin of pulled pork, good but pulled pork (pulled from a pig cooked on a converted drum cooker) is the real thing. (G)

    The real thing is always the best.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Pueblo Barbecued Pork Roast
    Categories: Game, Bbq, Ceideburg, Pork, Chilies
    Yield: 6 Servings

    Stephen Ceideburg
    1/4 c Vegetable oil
    1 1/2 c Chopped onion
    3 Garlic cloves, minced
    4 Dried juniper berries,
    -crushed
    1/2 ts Crushed coriander seed
    1 Bay leaf
    4 lg Ripe tomatoes, quartered,
    -seeded
    1 1/4 c Water
    2/3 c Cider vinegar
    1/3 Cto 1/2 c honey
    1 tb Ground New Mexican red chile
    1 Dried medium-hot New Mexican
    -red chile, crushed
    2 ts Salt
    1 oz Square unsweetened
    -chocolate, grated
    4 lb To 5 lb pork rib roast

    From "American Game Cooking," by John Ask and Sid Goldstein.

    Heat oil in a large heavy saucepan and saute onions in it over medium
    heat until soft. Add garlic, juniper berries, coriander seed and bay
    leaf and saute for 2 to 3 minutes longer. Add tomatoes, water,
    vinegar, honey, ground and crushed chile and salt. Simmer, covered,
    30 minutes. Add chocolate and simmer, uncovered, for 20 to 30
    minutes, until fairly thick.

    Preheat oven to 350 degrees F.

    Place roast fat side up in a roasting pan and baste generously with
    the sauce. Roast for about 3 hours, basting occasionally with sauce
    and pan drippings. Let roast sit for 10 minutes in a warm place
    before carving. Slice and spoon additional sauce over each portion.

    PER SERVING (pork trimmed of fat): 495 calories, 40 g protein, 21 g
    carbohydrate, 28 g fat (9 g saturated), 109 mg cholesterol, 605 mg
    sodium, 1 g fiber.

    Jayne Benet writing in the San Francisco Chronicle, 3/18/92.

    Posted by Stephen Ceideburg

    MMMMM

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Richard Miles on Sat Jul 24 01:41:02 2021
    On 07-22-21 18:32, Richard Miles <=-
    spoke to Moderator about Your opinion <=-

    I don't have any problem with it BUT I just mainly lurk
    here reading messages and looking at different recipes for
    ideas. Don't really participate all that much.

    Your name seems a bit familiar to me. Are you one with a lot of dietary restrictions? Or was that another Miles?

    A panini is usually a sandwich that is pressed while heating in a panini
    press. Although this recipe only says to press lightly, I think it
    would be good either way.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: CHICKEN AND SALSA VERDE PANINI
    Categories: Poultry, Chicken, Sandwich, Italian
    Yield: 4 servings

    7 Green olives, coarsely
    Chopped
    1 sm Garlic clove, peeled and
    Coarsely chopped
    2 tb Drained capers
    Grated zest (yellow part of
    Peel) of 1 lemon
    3 tb Olive oil
    4 tb Lemon juice
    Pinch salt
    Freshly ground black pepper
    To taste
    2 Skinless, boneless roasted
    Chicken breast halves,
    Thinly sliced
    4 Round or oblong sandwich
    Rolls, split in halves

    1. On a chopping board, combine the green olives, garlic, capers and
    lemon zest. Chop finely. (Or combine and chop in a food processor.)
    Transfer to a bowl. In a small jar combine the olive oil and lemon
    juice; shake until combined and pour over the olive mixture. Stir in
    the salt and pepper. (If not using right away, cover and
    refrigerate.)

    2. Spread bottom halves of rolls with the salsa verde, leaving some
    of the juices in the bowl. Top with the slices of chicken breast.
    Brush the remaining juices over the inside of the top halves of the
    rolls; place on top of bottom halves and press down lightly. Cut
    into halves and serve. Downloaded from the WWW site of Dave &
    Georgette Burnside www.synapse.net/~gemini/mealmast.htm

    MMMMM


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  • From Richard Miles@1:3634/24 to Dale Shipp on Sat Jul 24 04:08:27 2021
    On 24 Jul 2021, Dale Shipp said the following...

    Your name seems a bit familiar to me. Are you one with a lot of dietary restrictions? Or was that another Miles?

    Probably another one. I do have a few restrictions due to cholesterol and kidney disease but don't know that I have every posted about them.

    -=>Richard Miles<=-
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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Jul 24 11:10:12 2021
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Just a few thoughts: If it's just recipies, I'd limit it to maybe 10 or
    15 a day. I was on the Home Cooking echo for a while, usually just
    blasted thru a mass posting. I do likewise here--will look at the title and go on to the next. Also, if it's National Something or Other Day, I don't think we need a lot of (similar) recipies, basically the same but for a minor ingredient or two. Maybe I've gotten pickier over the years but I don't collect recipies as much as I used to, even a few years
    ago.

    Do you even read the "National" (or International) Day recipes. I post

    I'll skim the title and first line or so but unless there's something
    that catches my eye, I'll move on to the next message.

    I don't claim that my recipe posts are all "gems". But they all are on
    subject (Burtonized) and as varied as I can make them.

    those to be interesting and *varied*. They have the common thread of whatever it's the "National Day" of.

    Do you have a calendar listing of the different "days" or use the internet?

    Yes. International Days also - which is a *much* shorter list. Next "day" posting is a double. July 29: National Chicken Wing Day & National
    Lasagna Day

    Yesterday's haul of BLT recipes included:

    Title: Terrace On Main's BLT On A Cheddar Cheese Waffle
    Title: BBLT Sandwich
    Title: BLT Pasta
    Title: Mary Ann's BLT Catfish Sandwiches
    and
    Title: B.O.L.T (Bacon, Oyster, Lettuce, Tomato)

    I'd say that was fairly diverse.

    Yes, but you forgot the MLT from "The Princess Bride". (G)

    I'm not familiar with "The Princess Bride" beyond being aware that it
    exists. So, what is an MLT? There used to be an echo requirement that
    if you mention a recipe you're supposed to post it.

    Tomorrow's haul is Vanilla Ice Cream. Not a dupe in a carload.

    If they're nothing but vanilla, I'll probably do my usual skim. I'm not
    a fan of vanilla, much prefer chocolate as my "go to". OTOH, Steve
    would rather go for vanilla, over chocolate. (G)

    A couple are for making I scream. The others use I scream as an ingredient.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Tim Burton Cupcakes
    Categories: Cake, Fruits, Nuts, Desserts, Cheese
    Yield: 12 Servings

    3 lg Eggs; beaten
    1 3/4 c Sugar
    1 c Oil
    2 c All-purpose flour
    1 ts Salt
    1 ts Baking soda
    1 ts Ground cinnamon
    2 c Sliced canned peaches
    1/2 c Chopped nuts

    MMMMM--------------------------FROSTING-------------------------------
    3 oz Cream cheese; room temp
    4 tb Unsalted butter; room temp
    1 ts Vanilla extract
    2 c Confectioners’ sugar
    1/2 ts Ground ginger

    Center a rack and set the oven to 350ºF/175ºC.

    Line the cupcake pans with paper liners.

    In the bowl of a mixer, combine the eggs, sugar, and
    oil. Mix on medium speed until just blended.

    In a separate bowl, dry whisk the flour, salt, baking
    soda, and cinnamon together. Add to the egg mixture and
    beat until just combined. The batter will be sticky.

    With a spatula and/or wooden spoon, fold in the peaches
    and nuts.

    Pour the batter into the prepared cupcake pans and bake
    for 25 minutes, or until the cake tests done.

    Let the cupcakes cool for 10 minutes in the pan, then
    unmold onto a cake rack. Allow to cool completely.

    TO MAKE THE FROSTING: With the mixer on medium speed,
    beat the cream cheese, butter, and vanilla extract until
    smooth.

    Gradually add the confectioners' sugar and ginger. Beat
    until smooth.

    Apply the frosting to the cooled cake.

    by Monte Mathews

    RECIPE FROM: https://cookeatshare.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Richard Miles on Sun Jul 25 01:40:06 2021
    On 07-24-21 04:08, Richard Miles <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Your opinion <=-

    Your name seems a bit familiar to me. Are you one with a lot of dietary restrictions? Or was that another Miles?

    Probably another one. I do have a few restrictions due to
    cholesterol and kidney disease but don't know that I have
    every posted about them.

    Looking through the list of posters, I think it was Robert Miles.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Icebox Sandwiches
    Categories: Cream, Sandwich
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 sm Package instant vanilla
    Pudding mix
    2 c Cold milk
    2 c Whipped topping
    1 c Miniature semisweet
    Chocolate chips
    48 Graham cracker squares

    Mix pudding and milk according to package directions and refrigerate
    until set. Fold in whipped topping and chocolate chips. Place 24
    graham crackers on a baking sheet, top each with about 3 Tbsp.
    filling. Place another graham cracker on top. Freeze for one hour or
    until firm. Wrap individually in plastic wrap. Freeze. Serve
    sandwiches frozen. Yield: 2 dozen.

    From: Lancaster Farming 6/1/96 Renae Berder
    Shared by: Pat Stockett
    From: Pat Stockett Date: 06-07-96
    Cooking

    MMMMM


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Sean Dennis on Sat Jul 24 12:18:01 2021
    Hi Sean,

    I know, I'm bad for not changing the subject but it helps me trace a
    line of conversation sometimes. (G)

    That's why I've never said anything about changing subject lines as I
    know that's how we all keep track of stuff in here. If I am reading
    mail on the BBS online or using GoldEd+ or FleetStreet, I have the
    message base threaded so I can easily follow the thread. With FleetStreet, it has a very nice GUI and you can have a separate window
    to follow threads. I normally use my Windows machine right now with

    I usually use just one computer, my net book. We have a desk top system
    but I've no need for it now that I'm done with school. Used to be, for
    some classes, I'd have to do exams on the school's Moodle site.

    offline mail since I have both computers on a KVM. Once the BBS is
    set up on its own, I probably will read mail directly on the BBS
    machine
    though once I get a car and a better laptop, I may be out and about
    more and working with offline mail then too.

    I take my net book when we travel so if we have time, I can do my mail
    then. I'll usually down load a packet to read at my convenience; that's
    why I was so sporadic mid May to mid June.


    If that does happen, I will set things up so I can access my master MM databases as long as I can get online. It will save me from having to keep three different MM installs updated individually.

    I've got enough other irons in the fire that one set up is all I need.
    Just got an e-mail the other day from one of my usual sewing customers,
    Santa wants a couple of new shirts.

    Yes, he has been pretty good, but for the most part, I'll skim the header/first line of his recipe postings, then go on to the next one.

    I do that also and save the ones I like.

    I don't think I've saved anything in several years. Don't know if I've
    saved anything since we've been in WF.

    It's a cousin of pulled pork, good but pulled pork (pulled from a pig cooked on a converted drum cooker) is the real thing. (G)

    The real thing is always the best.

    Exactly!

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Jul 24 13:00:13 2021
    Hi Dave,

    for a minor ingredient or two. Maybe I've gotten pickier over the years but I don't collect recipies as much as I used to, even a few years
    ago.

    Do you even read the "National" (or International) Day recipes. I post

    I'll skim the title and first line or so but unless there's something
    that catches my eye, I'll move on to the next message.

    I don't claim that my recipe posts are all "gems". But they all are on subject (Burtonized) and as varied as I can make them.

    True, some of them makes me think of Michael's WWTT categorisation. (G)


    those to be interesting and *varied*. They have the common thread of whatever it's the "National Day" of.

    Do you have a calendar listing of the different "days" or use the internet?

    Yes. International Days also - which is a *much* shorter list. Next
    "day" posting is a double. July 29: National Chicken Wing Day &
    National Lasagna Day

    We aren't much into the chicken wing thing. As for traditional lasagne,
    I use the recipe my MIL gave me. We did have an interesting one at an
    Olive Garden in El Paso about 25 years ago during their lasagne lover's
    special promo. You could order 2 different ones so Steve and I each
    ordered 2 different ones, giving us 4 to try. The overall consensus was
    that their traditional was the best of the varients on the traditional
    theme but the seafood one was the best of the non traditional ones.
    We've never seen that one on their menu again, sadly.

    Yesterday's haul of BLT recipes included:

    Title: Terrace On Main's BLT On A Cheddar Cheese Waffle
    Title: BBLT Sandwich
    Title: BLT Pasta
    Title: Mary Ann's BLT Catfish Sandwiches
    and
    Title: B.O.L.T (Bacon, Oyster, Lettuce, Tomato)

    I'd say that was fairly diverse.

    Yes, but you forgot the MLT from "The Princess Bride". (G)

    I'm not familiar with "The Princess Bride" beyond being aware that it exists. So, what is an MLT? There used to be an echo requirement that
    if you mention a recipe you're supposed to post it.


    I thought you would know the movie--look it up if you have a chance.
    Anyway, a couple of the characters are discussing food at one point and
    the one says he likes an MLT. Upon questioning, it is revealed that an
    MLT is mutton, lettuce and tomato sandwich. I've not recipe but presume
    you just sub out mutton for the bacon in a BLT.

    Tomorrow's haul is Vanilla Ice Cream. Not a dupe in a carload.

    If they're nothing but vanilla, I'll probably do my usual skim. I'm not
    a fan of vanilla, much prefer chocolate as my "go to". OTOH, Steve
    would rather go for vanilla, over chocolate. (G)

    A couple are for making I scream. The others use I scream as an ingredient.

    None piqued my interest enough to read thru past the ingredients list or
    save, sorry.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Jul 25 15:03:02 2021
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    I take my net book when we travel so if we have time, I can do my mail then. I'll usually down load a packet to read at my convenience; that's why I was so sporadic mid May to mid June.

    I have a netbook hiding out in my stuff at my parents' place. I should
    find it and use it again. It's an older Gateway netbook but it works
    quite well for what it is, especially when running Linux. It runs
    Windows 7 well but I don't think it'd handle Windows 10. I'd keep a
    usual set of programs on it for what I'd need. Though if I was to go full-time RV living, I'd invest in a good used HP Elitebook (business
    class) laptop to keep with me.

    I don't think I've saved anything in several years. Don't know if I've saved anything since we've been in WF.

    With the amount of recipes I'll have soon, I probably won't have to save anything unless I don't have it already though I might try to collect
    more Tennessee recipes.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Tennessee Cream Gravy
    Categories: Sauces
    Yield: 1 Servings

    4 tb Pan drippings & browned bits
    4 tb Flour
    1 ts Black pepper
    2 ts Salt
    1 c Warm water
    13 oz Evaporated milk

    Heat fat moderately; stir in flour. Mixture should be thin, not cakey
    or oily. Cook until medium brown, stirring constantly. Add pepper and
    salt. Tehn, working very quickly, add warm water; stir thoroughly;
    let bubble. Add evaportaed milk. Lower heat and cook to desired
    thickness, stirring almost constantly. In necessary to thin at this
    point, add warm water. Best to you, Lisa

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jul 26 05:09:00 2021
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I'm not familiar with "The Princess Bride" beyond being aware that it exists. So, what is an MLT? There used to be an echo requirement that
    if you mention a recipe you're supposed to post it.

    I thought you would know the movie--look it up if you have a chance. Anyway, a couple of the characters are discussing food at one point and the one says he likes an MLT. Upon questioning, it is revealed that an
    MLT is mutton, lettuce and tomato sandwich. I've not recipe but presume you just sub out mutton for the bacon in a BLT.

    I thought I might know the book it was based on. But using my Bing search engine I find that it was made of "whole cloth" by a screen writer. And
    the synopsis sounded very "treacle-y". Pass.

    Tomorrow's haul is Vanilla Ice Cream. Not a dupe in a carload.

    If they're nothing but vanilla, I'll probably do my usual skim. I'm not
    a fan of vanilla, much prefer chocolate as my "go to". OTOH, Steve
    would rather go for vanilla, over chocolate. (G)

    A couple are for making I scream. The others use I scream as an ingredient.

    None piqued my interest enough to read thru past the ingredients list
    or save, sorry.

    Most of the readers pf this forum are pretty jaded. That's why I try to
    inject new recipes where I can. And why I appreciate Weller's efforts
    in that vein.

    Every once in a while I come across a new-to-me recipe that gets put
    into my round-tuit list.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Jade Tree Salad
    Categories: Salads, Dressings
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1/2 c Safflower oil
    1/4 c Tarragon vinegar
    2 tb Sugar
    1 1/2 ts Dry mustard
    1/2 ts Salt
    1/4 ts Garlic powder
    1/4 c Parmesan
    8 oz Sliced water chestnuts
    1/4 c Sesame seeds; toasted
    1 lg Head iceberg lettuce
    Fresh ground black pepper

    Lightly toast sesame seeds in skillet over low heat.
    Combine all ingredients in a large jar; shake to
    blend. Chill at least 3 hours. Serve over crisp,
    chilled lettuce torn (not cut) in bite-size piece.
    Toss with pepper.

    Waikiki Beach Hotel, Hawaii

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Sean Dennis on Mon Jul 26 14:57:19 2021
    Hi Sean,

    I take my net book when we travel so if we have time, I can do my mail then. I'll usually down load a packet to read at my convenience; that's why I was so sporadic mid May to mid June.

    I have a netbook hiding out in my stuff at my parents' place. I
    should find it and use it again. It's an older Gateway netbook but it works
    quite well for what it is, especially when running Linux. It runs

    If you need it, get it. (G)

    Windows 7 well but I don't think it'd handle Windows 10. I'd keep a
    usual set of programs on it for what I'd need. Though if I was to go full-time RV living, I'd invest in a good used HP Elitebook (business class) laptop to keep with me.

    We thought about full time RVing but decided we prefer to have a home
    base. I've got a better kitchen than any I've seen in RVs; we also have
    the space for a home office, sewing room, etc without being crowded.

    I don't think I've saved anything in several years. Don't know if I've saved anything since we've been in WF.

    With the amount of recipes I'll have soon, I probably won't have to
    save anything unless I don't have it already though I might try to
    collect
    more Tennessee recipes.

    That might be an interesting collection.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Jul 26 15:04:53 2021
    Hi Dave,

    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I'm not familiar with "The Princess Bride" beyond being aware that it exists. So, what is an MLT? There used to be an echo requirement that
    if you mention a recipe you're supposed to post it.

    I thought you would know the movie--look it up if you have a chance. Anyway, a couple of the characters are discussing food at one point and the one says he likes an MLT. Upon questioning, it is revealed that an
    MLT is mutton, lettuce and tomato sandwich. I've not recipe but presume you just sub out mutton for the bacon in a BLT.

    I thought I might know the book it was based on. But using my Bing
    search engine I find that it was made of "whole cloth" by a screen
    writer. And the synopsis sounded very "treacle-y". Pass.

    It's an adventure story, a comedy, and a romance all rolled into one.
    You might like the movie better than the book.


    Tomorrow's haul is Vanilla Ice Cream. Not a dupe in a carload.

    If they're nothing but vanilla, I'll probably do my usual skim. I'm not
    a fan of vanilla, much prefer chocolate as my "go to". OTOH, Steve
    would rather go for vanilla, over chocolate. (G)

    A couple are for making I scream. The others use I scream as an ingredient.

    None piqued my interest enough to read thru past the ingredients list
    or save, sorry.

    Most of the readers pf this forum are pretty jaded. That's why I try
    to inject new recipes where I can. And why I appreciate Weller's
    efforts
    in that vein.

    And most recipies I post are sort of free form, usually based on
    something we've eaten recently.


    Every once in a while I come across a new-to-me recipe that gets put
    into my round-tuit list.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Jade Tree Salad
    Categories: Salads, Dressings
    Yield: 6 Servings

    Probably not one we'd make. subbing out red or green leaf lettuce would
    give it a bit more nutrition than iceberg.


    Waikiki Beach Hotel, Hawaii

    I don't recall one with that name, but too, it's just short of 15 years
    since we moved back to the mainland.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From JIM WELLER@1:135/392 to RICHARD MILES on Mon Jul 26 22:49:00 2021

    Quoting Richard Miles to Dale Shipp <=-

    Are you one with a lot of dietary restrictions? Or was that
    another Miles?

    Probably another one. I do have a few restrictions due to cholesterol
    and kidney disease but don't know that I have every posted about them.

    He's thinking about a Robert Miles who was active here some time
    ago.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Bobby's Orange Chicken
    Categories: Chinese, Chicken, Fruit, Chilies
    Yield: 6 Servings

    CHICKEN:
    2 lb Boneless skinless chicken
    Breasts, cut in 1 1/2" cubes
    1 1/2 c All purpose flour
    1 Egg, beaten
    1/4 ts Salt
    1/4 ts Pepper
    Oil (for frying)
    ORANGE SAUCE:
    1 1/2 c Water
    2 tb Orange juice
    1/4 c Lemon juice
    1/3 c Rice vinegar
    2 1/2 tb Soy sauce
    1 tb Orange zest (grated)
    1 c Packed brown sugar
    1/2 ts Ginger root (minced)
    1/2 ts Garlic (minced)
    2 tb Green onion (chopped)
    1/4 ts Red pepper flakes
    3 tb Cornstarch
    2 tb Water

    Combine flour, salt, and pepper. Dip chicken in egg mixture and
    shake in flour mixture to coat. Deep fry chicken in batches at 375
    degrees in a deep fryer (or use a wok) until completely cooked.

    Meanwhile, in a large saucepan combine 1 1/2 cups water, lemon
    juice, orange juice, rice vinegar, and soy sauce. Blend well over
    medium heat for a few minutes. Stir in brown sugar, orange zest,
    ginger garlic, and onion. Bring to a boil.

    Combine 3 tablespoons of cornstarch with 1/4 cup of water and mix
    thoroughly. Slowly stir cornstarch mixture into sauce until it
    thickens. Pour sauce over breaded chicken, and if desired add red
    pepper flakes and garnish with green onions.

    From: Bobby In Michigan

    MMMMM

    Cheers

    Jim


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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Jul 28 05:45:00 2021
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Tomorrow's haul is Vanilla Ice Cream. Not a dupe in a carload.

    If they're nothing but vanilla, I'll probably do my usual skim. I'm not
    a fan of vanilla, much prefer chocolate as my "go to". OTOH, Steve
    would rather go for vanilla, over chocolate. (G)

    A couple are for making I scream. The others use I scream as an ingredient.

    None piqued my interest enough to read thru past the ingredients list
    or save, sorry.

    Not all recipes are for all people.

    Most of the readers of this forum are pretty jaded. That's why I try
    to inject new recipes where I can. And why I appreciate Weller's
    efforts in that vein.

    And most recipies I post are sort of free form, usually based on
    something we've eaten recently.

    I've noticed. I've even Meal Monstered a couple of them

    Every once in a while I come across a new-to-me recipe that gets put
    into my round-tuit list.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Jade Tree Salad
    Categories: Salads, Dressings
    Yield: 6 Servings

    Probably not one we'd make. subbing out red or green leaf lettuce would give it a bit more nutrition than iceberg.

    Just to be clear - that recipe was a "Burton" on the "readers of this
    forum are pretty jaded" statement. Anything for a hook. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Slow Cooker Hawaiian Chicken
    Categories: Five, Poultry, Fruits, Sauces
    Yield: 9 Servings

    3 lb Chicken pieces
    18 oz Bottle honey barbecue sauce
    15 1/2 oz Can sliced pineapple
    1 ts Soy sauce

    Put chicken breasts into the crock of a slow cooker; top
    with barbeque sauce, pineapple slices, and soy sauce.

    Cook on High for 4 to 5 hours.

    By Sammi Hung

    RECIPE FROM: http://allrecipes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM


    Waikiki Beach Hotel, Hawaii

    I don't recall one with that name, but too, it's just short of 15 years since we moved back to the mainland.



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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Jul 28 12:34:15 2021
    Hi Dave,

    A couple are for making I scream. The others use I scream as an ingredient.

    None piqued my interest enough to read thru past the ingredients list
    or save, sorry.

    Not all recipes are for all people.

    Most of the readers of this forum are pretty jaded. That's why I try
    to inject new recipes where I can. And why I appreciate Weller's
    efforts in that vein.

    And, if it's interesting, I'll read it but not save it unless I'm prety
    sure I'll try making it.

    And most recipies I post are sort of free form, usually based on
    something we've eaten recently.

    I've noticed. I've even Meal Monstered a couple of them

    I don't have MM on this computer, another reason for not saving
    recipies. It is on the desk top system tho.

    Every once in a while I come across a new-to-me recipe that gets put
    into my round-tuit list.


    Title: Jade Tree Salad
    Categories: Salads, Dressings
    Yield: 6 Servings

    Probably not one we'd make. subbing out red or green leaf lettuce would give it a bit more nutrition than iceberg.

    Just to be clear - that recipe was a "Burton" on the "readers of this forum are pretty jaded" statement. Anything for a hook. Bv)=

    Interesting story about hooks--Mack Davis, back in the early 70s, was
    told by one publisher that the songs he wrote didn't have a "hook",
    something to get the listener's attention. He went home and wrote "Baby,
    Baby, Don't Get Hooked On Me" which became a very popular song in, iirc,
    1972.

    Title: Slow Cooker Hawaiian Chicken
    Categories: Five, Poultry, Fruits, Sauces
    Yield: 9 Servings

    3 lb Chicken pieces
    18 oz Bottle honey barbecue sauce
    15 1/2 oz Can sliced pineapple
    1 ts Soy sauce

    Don't know if it's Hawaiian because of the soy sauce and pineapple but
    one can think so. (G)


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Jul 30 09:15:00 2021
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I've noticed. I've even Meal Monstered a couple of them

    I don't have MM on this computer, another reason for not saving
    recipies. It is on the desk top system tho.

    If my netbooks are any indication it has a Linux operating system. To
    put MM on it would be a PITA.

    Every once in a while I come across a new-to-me recipe that gets put
    into my round-tuit list.

    Interesting story about hooks--Mack Davis, back in the early 70s, was
    told by one publisher that the songs he wrote didn't have a "hook", something to get the listener's attention. He went home and wrote
    "Baby, Baby, Don't Get Hooked On Me" which became a very popular song
    in, iirc, 1972.

    Not one of my favourite singer/writers. I do note that the bassist for
    ZZ Top, Dusty Hill - he of the patriarchal beard and sunglasses.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Brown Sugar Bacon Wrapped Weenies
    Categories: Five, Appetisers, Pork, Sausages
    Yield: 20 Servings

    16 oz Pkg all beef/pork hot dogs;
    - quartered crosswise
    1 lb Bacon; quartered across
    1/2 c Butter
    1/2 c Brown sugar

    Preheat the oven's broiler and set the oven rack
    about 6" from the heat source.

    Wrap hot dog pieces in bacon pieces and secure
    with toothpicks. Arrange on a baking sheet.

    Broil the hot dog pieces until bacon is crisp,
    turning once or twice, 3 to 5 minutes per side.
    Transfer to a serving platter.

    Melt butter in a saucepan and stir in brown sugar.
    Place over medium heat and bring to a boil, stirring
    until brown sugar has dissolved. Serve hot dog
    pieces with brown sugar sauce drizzled on top.

    Recipe by: Brooke M. Danno

    RECIPE FROM: http://allrecipes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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    ource
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Jul 31 17:15:14 2021
    Hi Dave,

    I don't have MM on this computer, another reason for not saving
    recipies. It is on the desk top system tho.

    If my netbooks are any indication it has a Linux operating system. To
    put MM on it would be a PITA.

    This one is a Dell, and we don't do Windows as a general rule on any of
    our systems. Steve does have it as an option on the desk top for times
    there's no other choice but to use it but those times are rare.

    Every once in a while I come across a new-to-me recipe that gets put
    into my round-tuit list.

    Interesting story about hooks--Mack Davis, back in the early 70s, was
    told by one publisher that the songs he wrote didn't have a "hook", something to get the listener's attention. He went home and wrote
    "Baby, Baby, Don't Get Hooked On Me" which became a very popular song
    in, iirc, 1972.

    Not one of my favourite singer/writers. I do note that the bassist for
    ZZ Top, Dusty Hill - he of the patriarchal beard and sunglasses.

    He just passed away the other day. Mack wasn't one of my favorite
    singer/song writers either but that bit of trivia was interesting.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... Not all questions worth asking have answers...

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Aug 2 05:16:00 2021
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I don't have MM on this computer, another reason for not saving
    recipies. It is on the desk top system tho.

    If my netbooks are any indication it has a Linux operating system. To
    put MM on it would be a PITA.

    This one is a Dell, and we don't do Windows as a general rule on any of our systems. Steve does have it as an option on the desk top for times there's no other choice but to use it but those times are rare.

    Both of netbooks are from ASUS - although I cannot remember why/how I
    wound up with two of them. I also have a Dell small-form-factor desk
    top that I got at a local computer re-cycler for cheap and installed
    a version of Linux as its OS. None of them have been turned on for at
    least 5 years. I have been meaning to fire them up and remove any of
    the personally identifiable information contained there on and sending
    them to ReStore, Computer Banc, or the recycler where I got the Dell.

    Every once in a while I come across a new-to-me recipe that gets
    put into my round-tuit list.

    Interesting story about hooks--Mack Davis, back in the early 70s, was
    told by one publisher that the songs he wrote didn't have a "hook", something to get the listener's attention. He went home and wrote
    "Baby, Baby, Don't Get Hooked On Me" which became a very popular song
    in, iirc, 1972.

    Not one of my favourite singer/writers. I do note that the bassist for
    ZZ Top, Dusty Hill - he of the patriarchal beard and sunglasses.

    He just passed away the other day. Mack wasn't one of my favorite singer/song writers either but that bit of trivia was interesting.

    Oooops. I didn't finish my thought. ZZ TOP was an amazing quartet. I
    remain amazed that just 4 people, no matter how amplified, could get
    that much complex sound. At first I thought it was studio trickery -
    like the Edgar Winter Group did with "Frankenstein" - a hit made up of out-takes and sound bytes in the studio.

    Then I saw the Texas quartet live .... no trickery. They were the real
    thing. Sadly the groups/acts that I most enjoyed seem to be falling
    into the funeral homes in alarming numbers.

    Even the enigmatic subject of Rickie Lee Jones' best ever ballad "Chuck
    E's (Weiss) In Love" has made his final curtain call.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Frankenstein
    Categories: Candy, Fruits
    Yield: 1 Serving

    Tiny box of raisins
    Canned icing
    3 M&M Minis candies; 1 red,
    - 2 green
    1 Roll Smarties candy
    4 Tootsie Flavor Roll Twisties
    1 2 1/2" X 3" box Nerds candy
    2 Orange Starburst fruit chews
    2 5 stick pkg of chewing gum

    MMMMM---------------------------NEEDED--------------------------------
    Origami or wrapping paper;
    - neon green and purple
    Permanent black marking pen
    Double-sided adhesive tape
    2 Neon-green chenille stems
    Glue gun & hotmelt adhesive

    Wrap the raisin box with neon green paper, taping the paper
    in place. Use the black marking pen to draw facial features
    on the box front. Use icing to add a red M&M Mini nose and
    two neck bolts (two Smarties each). Set the head aside.

    For the arms, use small pieces of chenille stem to twist the
    Flavor roll Twisties together at the elbows. Slip a length
    of chenille stem through the top of the boxed candy for the
    shoulders. Twist one end of the shoulder stem around the top
    of one arm. Trim the chenille stem and attach the remaining
    arm. Cut away excess chenille stem.

    Using the pattern, cut a vest from purple paper to fit
    around the candy box. Tape the vest in place, then ice
    green Minis to the front for buttons.

    Better Homes & Gardens | October 2001

    MM Format by Dave Drum - 02 February 2011

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Aug 2 12:30:52 2021
    Hi Dave,

    This one is a Dell, and we don't do Windows as a general rule on any of our systems. Steve does have it as an option on the desk top for times there's no other choice but to use it but those times are rare.

    Both of netbooks are from ASUS - although I cannot remember why/how I wound up with two of them. I also have a Dell small-form-factor desk
    top that I got at a local computer re-cycler for cheap and installed
    a version of Linux as its OS. None of them have been turned on for at least 5 years. I have been meaning to fire them up and remove any of
    the personally identifiable information contained there on and sending them to ReStore, Computer Banc, or the recycler where I got the Dell.

    Every once in a while I come across a new-to-me recipe that gets
    put into my round-tuit list.

    And how long does it take after that until it is made up?


    Not one of my favourite singer/writers. I do note that the bassist for
    ZZ Top, Dusty Hill - he of the patriarchal beard and sunglasses.

    He just passed away the other day. Mack wasn't one of my favorite singer/song writers either but that bit of trivia was interesting.

    Oooops. I didn't finish my thought. ZZ TOP was an amazing quartet. I remain amazed that just 4 people, no matter how amplified, could get
    that much complex sound. At first I thought it was studio trickery -
    like the Edgar Winter Group did with "Frankenstein" - a hit made up of out-takes and sound bytes in the studio.


    I never got into them. Basically, after I got married, I pretty much
    stopped paying attention to pop music unless something came out that
    really caught the ear. Kenny Rogers "The Gambler" was one that did.

    Then I saw the Texas quartet live .... no trickery. They were the real thing. Sadly the groups/acts that I most enjoyed seem to be falling
    into the funeral homes in alarming numbers.

    Even the enigmatic subject of Rickie Lee Jones' best ever ballad
    "Chuck E's (Weiss) In Love" has made his final curtain call.

    And AFAIK, no relation to the Weiss family of my line.

    Title: Frankenstein
    Categories: Candy, Fruits
    Yield: 1 Serving

    Cute!

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... OH NO! Not ANOTHER learning experience!

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