• Humphrey's was:shopping

    From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Aug 8 04:48:44 2021
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Humphrey's has a quarter page ad in each Sunday's paper - so I see it
    in my e-edition. I note with some sadness that the matriarch of the Humphrey clan, Iona, has passed. She was 86. Her daughter Hope will continue the fifth generation to run the store.

    Sounds like they've been going longer than Wegman's. The latter started
    as a farm stand, became a store in 1916.

    From Iona's obit:

    Henry Humphrey's maternal grandparents, Sherman and Maude Smith,
    operated a series of neighborhood markets, called Handy Andy, in the
    1920s. (So, not quite as long as Wegman's. And nowhere nearly so big.)

    Humphrey's mother, Leota Smith Humphrey, sold fruits and vegetables in
    an open-air trading post, named Mrs. Humphrey's Market, on the spot
    occupied by the current store, while Humphrey's father, Elzie Humphrey,
    hauled produce.

    Henry Humphrey also traveled around the nation in his semitrailer,
    buying produce, while Iona Humphrey worked as the store's office manager
    and with the wholesale produce business.

    -+-

    One of the things I really like about Humphrey's meat cutters is that
    they understand what "chilli-grind" is and how to do it.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Uncle Dirty Dave Drum's Prize Winning Chilli
    Categories: Beef, Chilies, Stews, Mine
    Yield: 6 Servings

    4 lb Chilli grind chuck
    4 ts Garlic granules *
    1 lg Onion; chopped fine
    1 ts Cocoa powder; unsweetened
    3 tb Minor's (GFS) Beef Base
    48 oz V8 (straight or picante)
    1 ts Cayenne pepper
    8 tb Mexene Chilli spice
    4 ts Cumin
    14 oz Can Red Gold diced tomatoes
    - w/Chilies
    +=Or=+
    1 lg Tomato; diced w/juice
    +=AND=+
    4 oz Can of green chilies ***
    1/2 ts Brown sugar; opt
    1/8 ts (scant) cinnamon; highly opt

    * I use garlic powder (or granules) because they are
    pretty consistent as to taste and strength. I like fresh
    as much as the anyone. But, it's nice using ingredients
    that are the same from batch to batch.

    ** Apropos of fresh ingredients - you can substitute
    Anaheim (aka New Mexico) chiles for the canned chilies.
    Processed New Mexican chiles are what is in the can
    anyway. The fresh chiles are fairly mild (low heat)
    and quite flavourful.

    Use a 12" cast iron Dutch Oven. Toss 4 lb. of chilli
    grind into the pot and start browning it. Add 1 tsp.
    of garlic powder per pound of meat. While meat is
    browning chop a large onion reasonably fine. When
    ground chuck no longer shows pink add the diced onion
    and cocoa.

    Stir in 3 Tb. of Minor's/GFS Beef Base. If using super
    market (Kraft or whatever) beef base - watch the salt.
    Most beef bases are mostly salt. Minor's is mostly beef.

    Add a 48 oz. can of V8 (straight or picante') juice and
    1 ts. of cayenne pepper. Continue to simmer and stir.
    When onions are clear toss in 2 Tbs chilli spice per
    pound of meat. (I use Baron's, Mexene, or Gebhardt's)
    and 1 tsp cumin per pound of meat. Add the Red Gold
    diced tomatoes with chilies or a 4 oz. can green chilies
    (chop and seed if you grabbed whole peppers by mistake).
    Add the diced tomato and its juices.

    Continue to simmer and stir until onions are tender and
    completely transparent adding V8 juice as necessary. If
    you run out of V8 use either unsalted 'mater juice or
    chicken broth to add liquid. Total cooking time about 90
    minutes.

    If you're cooking at home you can serve this batch at
    this point. See below for longer schedules and the
    "kicker".

    If you're on a 3 hour schedule - most cook offs are -
    turn off stove and let your pot marinate for about an
    hour. About 30 minutes before turn-in time relight the
    stove and bring the chilli back to a simmer. Taste
    carefully and critically.

    This is final adjustment time. If it's too salty try
    adding about 1/2 tsp of brown sugar. If the chilli has
    died or gone flat add 1 tsp chilli spice and 1/2 tsp
    cumin per pound of meat and simmer right up to time to
    put in judging cups.

    As evidence that any receipe is a living, breathing
    organism this one was revised and updated immediately
    after the Mount Auburn Volunteer Fire Department cook-
    off. Second place isn't anything to sneeze at. It beats
    kissing your old maid aunt on the lips.

    Meal Master Format by Dave Drum - 07 September 1999

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Aug 8 19:59:07 2021
    Hi Dave,

    Humphrey's has a quarter page ad in each Sunday's paper - so I see it
    in my e-edition. I note with some sadness that the matriarch of the Humphrey clan, Iona, has passed. She was 86. Her daughter Hope will continue the fifth generation to run the store.

    Sounds like they've been going longer than Wegman's. The latter started
    as a farm stand, became a store in 1916.

    From Iona's obit:

    Henry Humphrey's maternal grandparents, Sherman and Maude Smith,
    operated a series of neighborhood markets, called Handy Andy, in the 1920s. (So, not quite as long as Wegman's. And nowhere nearly so big.)

    OK, not too far behind Wegman's--and same sort of customer service & satisfaction.

    Henry Humphrey also traveled around the nation in his semitrailer,
    buying produce, while Iona Humphrey worked as the store's office
    manager and with the wholesale produce business.

    Better to buy the produce locally unless he could keep it chilled.


    One of the things I really like about Humphrey's meat cutters is that
    they understand what "chilli-grind" is and how to do it.

    Title: Uncle Dirty Dave Drum's Prize Winning Chilli
    Categories: Beef, Chilies, Stews, Mine
    Yield: 6 Servings

    I've not tried the Wegman's meat cutters for chili grind. We usually buy
    a piece of meat and cut it up ourselves.

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    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Aug 10 05:33:00 2021
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Humphrey's has a quarter page ad in each Sunday's paper - so I see it
    in my e-edition. I note with some sadness that the matriarch of the Humphrey clan, Iona, has passed. She was 86. Her daughter Hope will continue the fifth generation to run the store.

    Sounds like they've been going longer than Wegman's. The latter started
    as a farm stand, became a store in 1916.

    From Iona's obit:

    Henry Humphrey's maternal grandparents, Sherman and Maude Smith,
    operated a series of neighborhood markets, called Handy Andy, in the 1920s. (So, not quite as long as Wegman's. And nowhere nearly so big.)

    OK, not too far behind Wegman's--and same sort of customer service & satisfaction.

    And nowhere nearly so large. One store - the public part of which would
    fit into Hy-Vee's produce section.

    Henry Humphrey also traveled around the nation in his semitrailer,
    buying produce, while Iona Humphrey worked as the store's office
    manager and with the wholesale produce business.

    Better to buy the produce locally unless he could keep it chilled.

    You do know about Thermo-King and their refrigerated trailers, don't you?
    Henry certainly did.

    One of the things I really like about Humphrey's meat cutters is that
    they understand what "chilli-grind" is and how to do it.

    Title: Uncle Dirty Dave Drum's Prize Winning Chilli
    Categories: Beef, Chilies, Stews, Mine
    Yield: 6 Servings

    I've not tried the Wegman's meat cutters for chili grind. We usually
    buy a piece of meat and cut it up ourselves.

    I've used "cut" meat sometimes. once even at a picnic @ Clean Dave's.
    But I prefer the convenience and quicker cooking time of chilli-grind.

    Take a nice shoulder clod (chuck) and put it twice through the coarse
    plate of the grinder .... as 'splained to me by "Bitsy" Finney. I had,
    until he set me straight, thought it was once through the big plate.

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    Title: Puppy's Breath Chilli
    Categories: Stews, Chilies, Beef
    Yield: 6 Servings

    3 lb Tri-tip beef or sirloin; in
    - small pieces or ground
    - coarse
    2 ts Cooking oil
    1 sm Yellow onion
    14 1/2 oz Can beef broth
    3 1/2 tb Ground cumin
    1/2 ts Oregeno
    6 cl Garlic; fine chopped
    3 tb Gebhardt chilli spice mix
    1 tb New Mexico mild chile powder
    6 tb California chile powder
    8 oz Can tomato sauce
    1 Dried New Mexico chile;
    - boiled, pureed
    3 Dried California chilies;
    - boiled and pureed
    14 1/2 oz Can chicken broth
    1 ts Hot pepper sauce
    1 ts Brown sugar
    1 Lime
    1 ds MSG
    Salt

    The following is the recipe for Puppy's Breath Chili, the
    winner of the 27th annual World's Chili Championship
    Recipe is by Cathy Wilkey of Seattle I've reprinted,
    because recipe appears to show a fine appreciation of
    different chile flavours in chilli. Reprinted without
    permission...;)

    Directions: Brown meat in oil for about 30 min over
    med heat. Add onion and enough beef broth to cover meat.
    Bring to a boil and cook for 15 min Add 1 tbsp cumin and
    0.5 tsp oregeno. Reduce heat to light boil and add 1/2
    of the garlic add half of chile powder and cook for 10
    min. Add tomato sauce and reconstituted peppers and
    remaining garlic add remaining beef stock and chicken
    stock for desired consistency.

    Cook for 1 hr on med heat, stirring occasionally add
    remaining chile powders and cumin. Simmer for 25 min on
    low to med heat, stirring occasionally turn heat to
    light boil and add hot sauce, salt, brown sugar and
    juice from lime simmer on med heat.

    Scott Sehlhorst; From the Chile-Heads Recipe Collection

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Aug 10 14:23:56 2021
    Hi Dave,


    Henry Humphrey's maternal grandparents, Sherman and Maude Smith,
    operated a series of neighborhood markets, called Handy Andy, in the 1920s. (So, not quite as long as Wegman's. And nowhere nearly so big.)

    OK, not too far behind Wegman's--and same sort of customer service & satisfaction.

    And nowhere nearly so large. One store - the public part of which
    would fit into Hy-Vee's produce section.

    Depends on the Wegman's stores but IIRC, Nancy said that they're
    building all big ones now. Ours has a number of food kiosks in it, plus
    a place to sit down and enjoy your meal. There is also an area where
    they fix their Meals2Go where you can get a good assortment of take out.
    This is in addition to things like the fish market, fresh sushi, bakery,
    cheese stand (separate from the deli) and so forth.

    We were in the store last night--they had a signboard out front
    announcing that they would be roasting Hatch chilis on the spot in late
    August. Wonder if the aroma will drift over to where we live. (G)


    Henry Humphrey also traveled around the nation in his semitrailer,
    buying produce, while Iona Humphrey worked as the store's office
    manager and with the wholesale produce business.

    Better to buy the produce locally unless he could keep it chilled.

    You do know about Thermo-King and their refrigerated trailers, don't
    you? Henry certainly did.

    But for optimum freshness it's still best to buy local. I'd rather buy
    local than something that's been trucked cross country in a refrigerated
    truck.

    One of the things I really like about Humphrey's meat cutters is that
    they understand what "chilli-grind" is and how to do it.

    Title: Uncle Dirty Dave Drum's Prize Winning Chilli
    Categories: Beef, Chilies, Stews, Mine
    Yield: 6 Servings

    I've not tried the Wegman's meat cutters for chili grind. We usually
    buy a piece of meat and cut it up ourselves.

    I've used "cut" meat sometimes. once even at a picnic @ Clean Dave's.
    But I prefer the convenience and quicker cooking time of chilli-grind.

    Take a nice shoulder clod (chuck) and put it twice through the coarse plate of the grinder .... as 'splained to me by "Bitsy" Finney. I had, until he set me straight, thought it was once through the big plate.

    I think our grinder just has a coarse and a fine blade. Don't know, it's
    been a while since we used it. But I still like to cut up the meat,
    usually somewhere between a cube and a dice.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:261/38 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Aug 12 06:54:54 2021
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    And nowhere nearly so large. One store - the public part of which
    would fit into Hy-Vee's produce section.

    Depends on the Wegman's stores but IIRC, Nancy said that they're
    building all big ones now. Ours has a number of food kiosks in it, plus

    The smallest Weggie's I was ever in was in Newark, NY which Burt called "tiny". But, I found it to be of a decent size and I could buy what I needed. The one near my motel in Canandaigua was somewhat larger and, I suppose, had more merch. Then Nancy took us to the new Weggies in her town which was huuuuuuuuuge.

    a place to sit down and enjoy your meal. There is also an area where
    they fix their Meals2Go where you can get a good assortment of take
    out. This is in addition to things like the fish market, fresh sushi, bakery, cheese stand (separate from the deli) and so forth.

    Sounds like my Hy-Vee - except we don't got the fresh sushi.

    We were in the store last night--they had a signboard out front
    announcing that they would be roasting Hatch chilis on the spot in late August. Wonder if the aroma will drift over to where we live. (G)

    Do you live down-wind? That can be a good thing or a bad thing - depending .... Bv)=

    Henry Humphrey also traveled around the nation in his semitrailer,
    buying produce, while Iona Humphrey worked as the store's office
    manager and with the wholesale produce business.

    Better to buy the produce locally unless he could keep it chilled.

    You do know about Thermo-King and their refrigerated trailers, don't
    you? Henry certainly did.

    But for optimum freshness it's still best to buy local. I'd rather buy local than something that's been trucked cross country in a
    refrigerated truck.

    Lot's of thing I'd rather. But reality keeps intruding. Good luck finding locally grown artichokes or mangoes or banananananas at your local farm stand on a consistent basis.

    One of the things I really like about Humphrey's meat cutters is that
    they understand what "chilli-grind" is and how to do it.

    Title: Uncle Dirty Dave Drum's Prize Winning Chilli
    Categories: Beef, Chilies, Stews, Mine
    Yield: 6 Servings

    I've not tried the Wegman's meat cutters for chili grind. We usually
    buy a piece of meat and cut it up ourselves.

    I've used "cut" meat sometimes. once even at a picnic @ Clean Dave's.
    But I prefer the convenience and quicker cooking time of chilli-grind.

    Take a nice shoulder clod (chuck) and put it twice through the coarse plate of the grinder .... as 'splained to me by "Bitsy" Finney. I had, until he set me straight, thought it was once through the big plate.

    I think our grinder just has a coarse and a fine blade. Don't know,
    it's been a while since we used it. But I still like to cut up the
    meat, usually somewhere between a cube and a dice.

    Errrrrmmmmm - dice and cube is the same thing. "Cubed" is different only if referring to tenderised beef. Did you mean small and medium pieces?

    One can also use a food processor to mince the meat.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Lobster Burgers w/Browned Butter Lemon Aioli, Bacon 'n' A
    Categories: Seafood, Cheese, Citrus, Fruits, Pork
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1 lb Fresh lobster meat (about
    - 4 tails)
    1/2 lb Raw shrimp; peeled, deveined
    1/3 c Panko bread crumbs
    1/4 c Shredded gruyere cheese
    1 ts Lemon zest
    1/2 ts Cayenne pepper
    Salt & pepper
    2 tb Butter
    6 Brioche or pretzel burger
    - buns; toasted
    8 sl Cooked, thick cut, bacon
    1 Avocado sliced

    MMMMM-----------------BROWNED BUTTER LEMON AIOLI----------------------
    2 tb Butter
    1/2 c Olive oil mayonnaise
    1 tb Lemon juice
    2 tb Sweet Thai chilli sauce
    1 cl Garlic; minced or grated
    pn Cayenne
    Salt & pepper

    Add lobster and shrimp meat to the bowl of a food
    processor and pulse until it's somewhat ground. You can
    also chop the lobster and shrimp very finely with a sharp
    knife.

    Remove and add the seafood to a bowl with the Panko bread
    crumbs, gruyere, lemon zest, cayenne, salt and pepper.
    Mix with a spoon until just combined. Form into 6 equally
    sized burgers. Place the burgers on a plate, cover and
    place in the fridge for 15-30 minutes.

    Meanwhile make the aioli and salsa (separate recipe). In
    a heavy-bottomed sauce pan add the butter and melt over
    medium heat until just browned. Butter will melt, foam,
    and froth, and then begin to brown along the bottom.
    Whisk the browned butter bits off of the bottom of the
    pan and set aside to cool.

    Meanwhile add the mayo, lemon juice, sweet thai chili
    sauce, garlic, pinch of cayenne, salt and pepper to a
    medium sized bowl. Stir in the cooled brown butter and
    whisk until smooth and combined, cover and place in the
    fridge until ready to use.

    When you are ready to eat, heat a large skillet over
    medium heat. Add 1 tablespoon butter and allow it to
    melt. Swirl the butter around the pan and add as many
    burgers as you can fit without crowding the pan. Cook the
    burgers for 5-8 minutes per side or until cooked through.
    Be gentle when flipping the burgers as they can break
    easier than your typical burger.

    Spread the bottom of each toasted burger bun with as
    little or as much aioli as you wish. Add the burger
    patties, sliced avocado and bacon. Top that with the
    Basil Corn + Peach salsa. Add the top bun and dive in!

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.halfbakedharvest.com

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    Title: Globe & Mail's Just Right Burger
    Categories: Five, Beef
    Yield: 4 Servings

    375 g (12 oz) chuck; in 1" pcs
    375 g (12 oz) sirloin; in 1" pcs
    1 ts Kosher salt
    1/2 ts Fresh ground pepper

    This recipe requires you to grind the meat yourself.

    Place meat in a food processor and pulse about 10 times
    or until meat looks coarsely ground. Season with salt
    and pepper. Heat grill to high. Form into 4 (1" thick)
    patties and grill for 5 to 7 minutes per side or until
    desired degree of doneness.

    Serves 4.

    For the All Canadian Version, serve w/sliced red onion,
    sliced tomatoes, Dijon mustard, pickles and cole slaw.

    Onion rings & sauteed mushrooms are my favourite sides.

    Luci Waverman; The Globe and Mail, 17 May 2008

    From: http://www.theglobeandmail.com

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Aug 12 16:19:22 2021
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Depends on the Wegman's stores but IIRC, Nancy said that they're
    building all big ones now. Ours has a number of food kiosks in it, plus
    a place to sit down and enjoy your meal. There is also an area where
    they fix their Meals2Go where you can get a good assortment of take
    out. This is in addition to things like the fish market, fresh sushi, bakery, cheese stand (separate from the deli) and so forth.

    When I was driving up to Williamsport for Leclerc, after I'd get checked
    into the hotel, I'd make a run to Wegman's and buy several of their refrigerated prepared meals. Those were great to keep in the refrigerator
    in my hotel room for those days when I got back after 10-12 hours of running around in a factory all day and I was just too tired to bother going
    somewhere to eat. There were a lot of options available for carryout and delivery but my legs would be like Jell-O ... so I'd pop a dinner into the microwave in my room, relax, and watch TV.

    A Publix just opened up here in Johnson City and once I am able to take
    myself around again, I'd like to shop there (sparingly) for food. There is
    a United Grocery Outlet nearby that is like a Big Lots for food. Not sure
    if there's one near you: https://www.myugo.com/locations/.

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    Title: John's Donairs
    Categories: Sandwiches
    Yield: 10 Servings

    5 lb Hamburger
    1/2 ts Pepper
    1 tb Cayenne pepper
    1 tb Oregano
    2 ts Paprika
    2 ts Onion powder
    1 pn Garlic powder
    Salt; to taste
    2 Eggs
    ---Sauce---
    1 c Evaporated milk; (not
    -sweetened)
    1/2 c Sugar
    1/3 c Vinegar
    1 ds Garlic powder

    For meat mixture:

    Combine all ingredients and mix well. Place in 13x9 pan. Cook at 350
    degrees for 2 hours and 15 minutes. Cool slightly, and slice meat.

    For sauce: mix milk and sugar, add vinegar slowly. Mixture should
    thicken when vinegar is added.

    For Donairs: Place sliced meat on pita bread with cut up onions
    lettuce and tomatoes top with sauce.

    Recipe by: John Hussey

    Posted to MC-Recipe Digest V1 #923 by "Chussey@synapse.net"
    <chussey@synapse.net> on Nov 26, 1997

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Dave Drum on Fri Aug 13 01:32:00 2021
    On 08-12-21 06:54, Dave Drum <=-
    spoke to Ruth Haffly about Humphrey's <=-

    The smallest Weggie's I was ever in was in Newark, NY which Burt
    called "tiny". But, I found it to be of a decent size and I could
    buy what I needed. The one near my motel in Canandaigua was
    somewhat larger and, I suppose, had more merch. Then Nancy
    took us to the new Weggies in her town which was
    huuuuuuuuuge.

    I believe that is the current model of how they want to go. When they
    came into Columbia, they insisted on building on their own land. Tore
    down a defunct warehouse to do so. The trend is for larger and larger
    grocery stores. In 1967 the first grocery store in Columbia was a
    Giant. It was build to the style of the day. As other village centers
    opened, the standard went towards larger stores. We tried to patronize
    that first Giant, calling it "baby Giant", but eventually it was closed
    and sat vacant for five years before the powers that be redesigned the
    entire shopping center.

    One of the things I really like about Humphrey's meat cutters is that
    they understand what "chilli-grind" is and how to do it.

    I've not tried the Wegman's meat cutters for chili grind. We usually
    buy a piece of meat and cut it up ourselves.

    I've used "cut" meat sometimes. once even at a picnic @ Clean Dave's.
    But I prefer the convenience and quicker cooking time of chilli-grind.

    I prefer the flavor of diced beef.


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    Title: Tarka Dal
    Categories: Main dish, Indian, Dals, Vegetarian
    Yield: 4 servings

    1 1/4 c Brown lentils 3 3/4 c Water
    1 ts Turmeric
    1 Garlic clove, crushed
    2 tb Ghee
    1 lg Onion, chopped
    1 ts Garam masala
    1/2 ts Ginger, grated
    1 ts Coriander
    1/2 ts Cayenne pepper

    : Fresh cilantro, garnish

    Wash lentils in cold water. In a pot, combine lentils, water,
    turmeric & garlic. Cover & simmer 30 minutes or until lentils are
    tender. Uncover & cook 2-3 minutes to reduce excess liquid.

    Heat ghee in another pot. Add onion & fry gently for 5 minutes. Add
    garam masala, ginger, coriander and cayenne pepper; cook gently 1
    minute. Add mixture to lentils & stir well. Garnish with cilantro.

    NOTE: For a less fiery flavor, reduce cayenne pepper.

    Source Unknown
    From: Mark Satterly Date: 04-06
    International Cooking Ä

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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Dale Shipp on Fri Aug 13 11:27:32 2021
    Dale Shipp wrote to Dave Drum <=-


    One of the things I really like about Humphrey's meat cutters is that
    they understand what "chilli-grind" is and how to do it.

    I've not tried the Wegman's meat cutters for chili grind. We usually
    buy a piece of meat and cut it up ourselves.

    I've used "cut" meat sometimes. once even at a picnic @ Clean Dave's.
    But I prefer the convenience and quicker cooking time of chilli-grind.

    I prefer the flavor of diced beef.

    Flavour or texture/mouth feel? I cannot detect any difference in flavour.

    Sometimes, like for Cincinatti-style chilli, you need very fine-grind
    meat. Not like for an emulsified sausage but tiny mince.

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    Title: Cincinnati Chilli (Like Empress Chilli Parlor)
    Categories: Spices, Herbs, Chilli, Stews
    Yield: 6 Servings

    3 lg Onions; chopped
    6 cl Garlic; minced
    4 lb Finely ground beef
    1/3 c Chilli spice; your choice
    2 tb Sweet paprika
    2 ts Ground cumin
    1 ts Ground coriander
    1 ts Ground allspice
    1 ts Greek oregano; crumbled
    1 pn Cinnamon
    1/4 ts Ground cloves
    1/4 ts Ground mace
    1 California bay leaf
    3 c Water
    16 oz Can tomato sauce
    2 tb Red wine vinegar
    2 tb Molasses
    Spaghetti; cooked
    Cooked, drained kidney beans
    Chopped onion
    Grated Cheddar cheese
    Oyster crackers

    In a large heavy kettle, cook the onions and the garlic
    in a little oil over moderate heat, stirring, until the
    onions are softened, add the beef, and cook the mixture,
    stirring and breaking up the lumps, until the beef is no
    longer pink.

    Add the chilli spice, paprika, cumin, coriander,
    allspice, oregano, cinnamon, cloves and mace. Cook
    the mixture, stirring, for 1 minute.

    Add bay leaf, water, tomato sauce, vinegar, and molasses
    and simmer the mixture, uncovered, stirring occasionally
    and adding more water if necessary to keep beef barely
    covered, for 2 hours. Or until it is thickened but still
    soupy enough to be ladled.

    Discard the bay leaf and season the chilli with salt &
    pepper.

    Serve the chilli as is or in the traditional Cincinnati
    5-way: Ladle the chilli over the spaghetti and top it
    with beans, onion, Cheddar, and oyster crackers. (Also
    over hot dogs.)

    Makes about 8 cups, serving 6.

    Recipe By: Gourmet Magazine

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Aug 12 16:42:59 2021
    Hi Dave,

    Depends on the Wegman's stores but IIRC, Nancy said that they're
    building all big ones now. Ours has a number of food kiosks in it, plus

    The smallest Weggie's I was ever in was in Newark, NY which Burt
    called "tiny". But, I found it to be of a decent size and I could buy
    what I needed. The one near my motel in Canandaigua was somewhat
    larger and, I suppose, had more merch. Then Nancy took us to the new Weggies in her town which was huuuuuuuuuge.

    I've been in the one in Brockport, Canandaigua, Greece (near Nancy's
    church), near Columbia MD, Raleigh and Wake Forest. Of them, I think the
    one in MD is the biggest but the others have been pretty good sized. The Brockport one was the first one I was in, in the late 70s; it was quite different from the run of the mill supermarket I'd grown up with.


    a place to sit down and enjoy your meal. There is also an area where
    they fix their Meals2Go where you can get a good assortment of take
    out. This is in addition to things like the fish market, fresh sushi, bakery, cheese stand (separate from the deli) and so forth.

    Sounds like my Hy-Vee - except we don't got the fresh sushi.

    They also turn out a good amount for sale; I've bought some from time to
    time and enjoyed it.


    We were in the store last night--they had a signboard out front
    announcing that they would be roasting Hatch chilis on the spot in late August. Wonder if the aroma will drift over to where we live. (G)

    Do you live down-wind? That can be a good thing or a bad thing -
    depending .... Bv)=

    Depends on which way the wind is blowing but we might be able to smell
    it. I think we're under a mile as the crow flies from the store, a bit
    further by the roads we have to take.


    Henry Humphrey also traveled around the nation in his semitrailer,
    buying produce, while Iona Humphrey worked as the store's office
    manager and with the wholesale produce business.

    Better to buy the produce locally unless he could keep it chilled.

    You do know about Thermo-King and their refrigerated trailers, don't
    you? Henry certainly did.

    But for optimum freshness it's still best to buy local. I'd rather buy local than something that's been trucked cross country in a
    refrigerated truck.

    Lot's of thing I'd rather. But reality keeps intruding. Good luck
    finding locally grown artichokes or mangoes or banananananas at your
    local farm stand on a consistent basis.

    Buy seasonally, locally.


    One of the things I really like about Humphrey's meat cutters is that
    they understand what "chilli-grind" is and how to do it.

    Title: Uncle Dirty Dave Drum's Prize Winning Chilli
    Categories: Beef, Chilies, Stews, Mine
    Yield: 6 Servings

    I've not tried the Wegman's meat cutters for chili grind. We usually
    buy a piece of meat and cut it up ourselves.

    I've used "cut" meat sometimes. once even at a picnic @ Clean Dave's.
    But I prefer the convenience and quicker cooking time of chilli-grind.

    Take a nice shoulder clod (chuck) and put it twice through the coarse plate of the grinder .... as 'splained to me by "Bitsy" Finney. I had, until he set me straight, thought it was once through the big plate.

    I think our grinder just has a coarse and a fine blade. Don't know,
    it's been a while since we used it. But I still like to cut up the
    meat, usually somewhere between a cube and a dice.

    Errrrrmmmmm - dice and cube is the same thing. "Cubed" is different
    only if referring to tenderised beef. Did you mean small and medium pieces?

    Dice is small pieces, about 1/4" or so; cube is bigger pieces, maybe an
    inch or so from what I recall. Similar, but not quite the same.


    One can also use a food processor to mince the meat.

    Just have to be careful not to mice it so much it turns into paste. Very
    easy to do with the food processor.

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Dave Drum on Sat Aug 14 00:38:02 2021
    On 08-13-21 11:27, Dave Drum <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Humphrey's <=-

    I've used "cut" meat sometimes. once even at a picnic @ Clean Dave's.
    But I prefer the convenience and quicker cooking time of chilli-grind.

    I prefer the flavor of diced beef.

    Flavour or texture/mouth feel? I cannot detect any difference in
    flavour.

    Certainly texture, but I think there is a taste difference as well.

    Sometimes, like for Cincinatti-style chilli, you need very fine-grind meat. Not like for an emulsified sausage but tiny mince.

    Serve the chilli as is or in the traditional Cincinnati
    5-way: Ladle the chilli over the spaghetti and top it
    with beans, onion, Cheddar, and oyster crackers. (Also
    over hot dogs.)

    I have never had nor seen that, nor would I ever hope to.

    MMMMM

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Western Beans
    Categories: Beans
    Yield: 1 servings

    4 Bacon slices, diced
    1 Onion chopped
    1/3 c Dry lentils
    1 1/3 c Water
    2 tb Ketchup
    1 ts Garlic powder
    3/4 ts Chili powder
    1/2 ts Ground cumin
    1/4 ts Dried red pepper flakes
    1 Bay leaf
    16 oz Whole tomatoes with liquid,
    Chopped
    15 oz Pinto beans, drained
    16 oz Kidney beans, drained

    Lightly fry bacon in heavy 3 qt. saucepan. Add onion, cook until
    transparent. Stir in remaining ingredients. Cook over medium heat
    for 45 minutes or until lentils are tender, stirring once or twice.
    Remove bay leaf before serving. Yield: 8 to 10 servings

    Taste of Home Collector's Edition

    From: Marie Culver Date: 08-27 Home_cooking

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Aug 14 05:03:00 2021
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-


    Better to buy the produce locally unless he could keep it chilled.

    You do know about Thermo-King and their refrigerated trailers, don't
    you? Henry certainly did.

    But for optimum freshness it's still best to buy local. I'd rather buy local than something that's been trucked cross country in a
    refrigerated truck.

    Lot's of thing I'd rather. But reality keeps intruding. Good luck
    finding locally grown artichokes or mangoes or banananananas at your
    local farm stand on a consistent basis.

    Buy seasonally, locally.

    That's going to limit, severely, the menu. It's an admirable, if very impractical, sentiment.

    Where, for instance, am I going to get the main ingredient for this if
    sticking to seasonal and local?

    We don't grow rice locally, salt is mined far, far away. Sugar cane
    does not do well in the local climate, etc. etc.

    MMMMM-----Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Khao Neeo Durian
    Categories: Rice, Fruits, Desserts
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 c Sticky rice; cooked
    2 1/2 c Coconut milk
    1 c Sugar
    1 ts Salt
    1 tb Palm sugar
    4 Drops (or more) durian
    - flavouring
    +=OR=+
    1 c (or more) fresh durian flesh
    1 tb Tapioca starch

    A pleasant dessert not commonly served in Thailand unless
    durian is in high season (May and June), and it's an
    expensive dish so it's not often sold by Thai street
    vendors. When served, the coconut milk drenches the rice
    so it's a "soupy" consistency.

    Dissolve 2 cups coconut milk, 1 cup sugar and 1/2 teaspoon
    salt over medium heat. Add durian/flavouring.

    Topping: Mix 1/2 cup coconut milk with 1/4 teaspoon salt, 1
    tablespoon palm sugar and the tapioca starch. Bring to a
    boil.

    Serving: Place sticky rice in a bowl and pour the sweetened
    coconut milk over it. For each serving, transfer to an
    individual bowl, then top with a few teaspoons of topping
    sauce.

    From: http://importfood.com/recipes

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Dale Shipp on Sat Aug 14 05:58:00 2021
    Dale Shipp wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I've used "cut" meat sometimes. once even at a picnic @ Clean Dave's.
    But I prefer the convenience and quicker cooking time of chilli-grind.

    I prefer the flavor of diced beef.

    Flavour or texture/mouth feel? I cannot detect any difference in
    flavour.

    Certainly texture, but I think there is a taste difference as well.

    I don't detect any taste difference that can be attributed to the "cut".
    But, that's me.

    Sometimes, like for Cincinatti-style chilli, you need very fine-grind meat. Not like for an emulsified sausage but tiny mince.

    Serve the chilli as is or in the traditional Cincinnati
    5-way: Ladle the chilli over the spaghetti and top it
    with beans, onion, Cheddar, and oyster crackers. (Also
    over hot dogs.)

    I have never had nor seen that, nor would I ever hope to.

    As chilli by itself it's not a favourite. But as "5-Ways" it's pretty
    good. And, of course, there are all manner of variations on that.

    These would be good as a part of a "5-Way"

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Steak & Shake Chilli-Beans
    Categories: Five, Chilli, Beans, Soups
    Yield: 10 Servings

    2 lb Light red kidney beans
    1 ga Hot water
    1 oz Salt
    8 oz Chilli concentrate

    Wash beans well in hot water and drain well. Do not let
    soak. Simmer in salted water until done. Just let water
    bubble very slowly.

    When done, put one large spoon of cooked beans through a
    sieve or strainer to make broth on beans heavier.

    Add one-half pound of Chilli Concentrate.

    NOTES: Taken from an original (1930s) Steak & Shake
    instruction manual. This is not the recipe that is
    currently in use at Steak & Shake. The beans used in
    their chilli these days are brown (not pinto) beans.

    Elsewhere in the book from which I took this there was
    a menu listing that listed a bowl of chilli w/beans for
    15 cents per serving. A quart of chilli for take out was
    priced at 50 cents (4 servings) - UDD

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Sean Dennis on Fri Aug 13 13:58:33 2021
    Hi Sean,

    Depends on the Wegman's stores but IIRC, Nancy said that they're
    building all big ones now. Ours has a number of food kiosks in it, plus
    a place to sit down and enjoy your meal. There is also an area where
    they fix their Meals2Go where you can get a good assortment of take
    out. This is in addition to things like the fish market, fresh sushi, bakery, cheese stand (separate from the deli) and so forth.

    When I was driving up to Williamsport for Leclerc, after I'd get
    checked into the hotel, I'd make a run to Wegman's and buy several of their
    refrigerated prepared meals. Those were great to keep in the
    refrigerator in my hotel room for those days when I got back after
    10-12 hours of running around in a factory all day and I was just too

    As long as you have a working fridge and microwave in the room, that
    made a lot of sense. We've very often found rooms where the
    fridge/freezer is so iced up so as to be impossible to use, not that we
    usually use them. An overnight defrost job (leave the door open, put
    down towels) usually restores it to working order.

    tired to bother going
    somewhere to eat. There were a lot of options available for carryout
    and delivery but my legs would be like Jell-O ... so I'd pop a dinner
    into the microwave in my room, relax, and watch TV.

    That way, if you don't feel like being social, you don't have to be.
    We're not checking into motels much any more as we usually haul the
    camper with us. If we do get a motel, we semi binge watch cable tv
    channels for a couple of hours, usually Food Network and Discovery, with
    a bit of the Weather Channel.

    A Publix just opened up here in Johnson City and once I am able to
    take myself around again, I'd like to shop there (sparingly) for food.
    There is a United Grocery Outlet nearby that is like a Big Lots for
    food. Not sure if there's one near you:
    https://www.myugo.com/locations/.

    I'll check it out on line, probably not bother checking it in person.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Aug 14 15:00:12 2021
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    As long as you have a working fridge and microwave in the room, that
    made a lot of sense. We've very often found rooms where the
    fridge/freezer is so iced up so as to be impossible to use, not that we usually use them. An overnight defrost job (leave the door open, put
    down towels) usually restores it to working order.

    I can't remember the name of the hotel I stayed at but it was a huge room
    with a small office area, complete with a largish fridge and a 1100-watt microwave oven. The appliances were top-shelf and it was very nice to "come home" to after a really tiring day. Once my finances get better, I might do that for the weekend so I don't have to cook dinner. :D

    That way, if you don't feel like being social, you don't have to be.
    We're not checking into motels much any more as we usually haul the
    camper with us. If we do get a motel, we semi binge watch cable tv channels for a couple of hours, usually Food Network and Discovery,
    with a bit of the Weather Channel.

    I wasn't social after those long days. Now if the upper management invited
    me to dinner, I never said "no" (would be rather rude to do so unless I was physically hurt or ill). But most of the time, I'd get back to the hotel room, shower (you'd be amazed how dirty factory IT can be), nuke my dinner, and eat silently watching some TV or movies on my laptop.

    I'll check it out on line, probably not bother checking it in person.

    My parents and I went to our local UGO yesterday for ice. My refrigerator went out on Tuesday and it won't be replaced until Monday or Tuesday so my parents brought me a huge Igloo cooler I won at a company picnic when I
    worked at Leclerc. Right now, the "sensitive" cold stuff is in the cooler with two half-melted 20# bags of ice and it's working well.

    The UGO was very spartan but had lots of product. ALDI still beats their prices on many things but they do have a lot of "odd job" products there for
    a good price. They did have a good price on "breakfast-cut" pork chops so I bought some to have for dinner tonight and tomorrow. I wouldn't go there
    for my everyday shopping but if they have something in their weekly ads that catches my eye, I'd go there to get it.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Buttermilk Breakfast Biscuits
    Categories: Breads, Breakfast
    Yield: 8 Servings

    2 1/2 c All-purpose flour
    2 tb Sugar
    1 1/2 ts Cream of tartar
    3/4 ts Baking soda
    1/2 ts Salt
    1/2 c (1 stick) butter
    2/3 c Buttermilk
    1 Egg
    Milk
    Additional sugar

    Makes 8 to 10

    Preheat oven to 425 degrees F. Grease baking sheet. Mix flour, 2
    tablespoons sugar, cream of tartar, baking soda, and salt in large
    bowl. Cut in butter until mixture resembles coarse meal. Stir in
    buttermilk and egg. Turn dough out onto floured surface and knead
    until smooth; dough will be moist. Roll dough out into circle 1/2
    inch thick. Transfer to prepared sheet. Cut into wedges. Brush top
    with milk; sprinkle with sugar. Bake until golden brown, about 15
    minutes. Serve immediately.

    Variation: add 2/3 cup raisins, 1/4 cup mined candied orange peel, 1
    tablespoons finely grated lemon peel and 1 tsp caraway seed to dough.

    The Inn of Glenn Haven - Denver, CO. Bon Appetit

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dale Shipp on Sat Aug 14 15:07:16 2021
    Dale Shipp wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I have never had nor seen that, nor would I ever hope to.

    It's actually surprisingly good. Had it at Steak and Shake with one of
    their orange shakes. Sadly, the nearest full-service SnS is about 40
    minutes away. There is a small SnS at the student union at East Tennessee State University but it is only open "university" hours and is difficult to get to and find parking if you are not a student.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Breakfast Pizza
    Categories: Breakfast, Italian, Pizza
    Yield: 6 Servings

    8 oz Mozzarella Cheese, grated
    6 Eggs
    1 1/2 c Milk and/or cream
    Salt and Pepper, to taste
    1/4 md Onion, chopped
    3/4 md Onion, from above, ringed
    1 md Green pepper, ringed
    1 Pizza crust

    Prepare your favorite pizza crust and get ready to bake, as a regular
    pizza. Make sure that you have a fairly high ridge, as the there is
    a lot of mixture, and it is fairly watery. Pugliese bread dough works
    very well for a crust.

    Beat eggs lightly. Add cheese, onion and salt and pepper. Mix
    gently.

    Lightly brush olive oil over the pizza base. Pour mixture over the
    crust. Place rings of green pepper over the top. You can also
    include onion rings, mushrooms, or other favorite Pizza toppings.
    Color contrast helps here, as the mixture is rather plain looking.

    Bake at 450 degrees for about 15-20 mins, or when crust is brown and
    egg mixture is set.

    I got the recipe from a TV show about how to make Pizzas, on PBS.
    People that won't eat Pizza or Eggs with even go for this!

    From Dan Ceppa

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Aug 14 14:08:13 2021
    Hi Dave,


    Lot's of thing I'd rather. But reality keeps intruding. Good luck
    finding locally grown artichokes or mangoes or banananananas at your
    local farm stand on a consistent basis.

    Buy seasonally, locally.

    That's going to limit, severely, the menu. It's an admirable, if very impractical, sentiment.

    I do it with what can be done--all sorts of produce is available now.
    That which I can't buy locally, I'll look for the best of what's
    available at a good price.


    Where, for instance, am I going to get the main ingredient for this if sticking to seasonal and local?

    We don't grow rice locally, salt is mined far, far away. Sugar cane
    does not do well in the local climate, etc. etc.

    No, but you can get a lot of your veggies and meats locally. I didn't
    mean to say buy everything local, just what you can, and look for the
    best value in what has to be brought in, otherwise.

    Title: Khao Neeo Durian
    Categories: Rice, Fruits, Desserts
    Yield: 4 Servings

    You could buy the fruit locally if you lived in some Asian regions. (G)


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Aug 16 04:43:00 2021
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    We don't grow rice locally, salt is mined far, far away. Sugar cane
    does not do well in the local climate, etc. etc.

    No, but you can get a lot of your veggies and meats locally. I didn't
    mean to say buy everything local, just what you can, and look for the
    best value in what has to be brought in, otherwise.

    Title: Khao Neeo Durian
    Categories: Rice, Fruits, Desserts
    Yield: 4 Servings

    You could buy the fruit locally if you lived in some Asian regions. (G)

    I could buy it at the Asian Foods Store until the tornadoes did a job
    on it and the Mr. Battery next door. They found batteries as much as a
    mile from the site of the (former) building. And there were reports of
    the odd durian with its spiky husk being found in some back yards.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Texas Tornado Cake *
    Categories: Cakes, Chocolate, Desserts
    Yield: 9 Servings

    MMMMM----------------------------CAKE---------------------------------
    2 c Flour
    1 1/2 c Sugar
    2 tb Cocoa
    1 1/2 tb Baking powder
    1/2 ts Salt
    1 c Milk
    1/2 c Butter; melted

    MMMMM--------------------------TOPPING-------------------------------
    2 c Brown sugar
    6 tb Cocoa
    3 1/4 c Hot water

    * Original title was "Texas Tornado Pudding Cake" but,
    as I saw no pudding in the recipe, I renamed it. - UDD

    Cake - mix flour, sugar, cocoa, baking powder, and salt
    together. Add milk and butter to dry ingredients. Mix
    until smooth. Pour into 9" baking pan.

    Topping - mix sugar, cocoa, and water until sugar and
    cocoa dissolve. Pour over top of cake. Bake in 325ºF/160ºC
    for approximately 45 mins. or until done.

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Sean Dennis on Sun Aug 15 17:41:48 2021
    Hi Sean,

    As long as you have a working fridge and microwave in the room, that
    made a lot of sense. We've very often found rooms where the
    fridge/freezer is so iced up so as to be impossible to use, not that we usually use them. An overnight defrost job (leave the door open, put
    down towels) usually restores it to working order.

    I can't remember the name of the hotel I stayed at but it was a huge
    room with a small office area, complete with a largish fridge and a 1100-watt microwave oven. The appliances were top-shelf and it was
    very nice to "come home" to after a really tiring day. Once my
    finances get better, I might do that for the weekend so I don't have
    to cook dinner. :D

    Sounds like a more upscale place than what we usually got. We'd get a
    basic room with the combo fridge/microwave and just a small table/chair
    for "office space". But, since it was for just a quick overnight and hit
    the road early the next morning, it didn't need to be deluxe. I usually
    brought my own pillow as most often pillows in those places are not that
    great. Some places had "breakfast included" but the next morning when
    we'd go down for breakfast, we'd find it to be a heavy carb assortment
    of stuff we usually don't eat. We'd just check out a bit earlier than
    planned and go to some place where we could get some protein to go with
    a lighter amount of carbs. (G)

    That way, if you don't feel like being social, you don't have to be.
    We're not checking into motels much any more as we usually haul the
    camper with us. If we do get a motel, we semi binge watch cable tv channels for a couple of hours, usually Food Network and Discovery,
    with a bit of the Weather Channel.

    I wasn't social after those long days. Now if the upper management invited me to dinner, I never said "no" (would be rather rude to do so unless I was physically hurt or ill). But most of the time, I'd get

    I understand. We usually got a motel room on our way to or from visiting parents as it is too long a drive for one day. Now, since we bring the
    camper most places, we don't have to get a room. We have gone for a bed
    and breakfast a few times, a bit more upscale, but everything is so much
    nicer. (G)

    back to the hotel room, shower (you'd be amazed how dirty factory IT
    can be), nuke my dinner, and eat silently watching some TV or movies
    on my laptop.

    Probably what we'd do, if travelling as singles. (G)


    I'll check it out on line, probably not bother checking it in person.

    My parents and I went to our local UGO yesterday for ice. My
    refrigerator went out on Tuesday and it won't be replaced until Monday
    or Tuesday so my parents brought me a huge Igloo cooler I won at a
    company picnic when I worked at Leclerc. Right now, the "sensitive"
    cold stuff is in the cooler with two half-melted 20# bags of ice and
    it's working well.

    Our camper fridge died on day 3 of our trip out west this spring. We
    bought a heavy duty cooler at W-M to suppliment our Sterling Free Piston (medical grade) cooler. Had to buy ice every so often for the new
    cooler; the SFP one kept the sensitive stuff cool on just electricity or battery. When we got home, Steve ordered/put in a new fridge; we'll give
    it a test this week when we head to the Outer Banks for a few days.

    The UGO was very spartan but had lots of product. ALDI still beats

    Never heard of them.

    their prices on many things but they do have a lot of "odd job"
    products there for a good price. They did have a good price on "breakfast-cut" pork chops so I bought some to have for dinner tonight
    and tomorrow. I wouldn't go there for my everyday shopping but if
    they have something in their weekly ads that catches my eye, I'd go
    there to get it.

    Sounds like Lidl; we don't buy many groceries there but it had all sorts
    of other stuff.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Aug 16 12:29:12 2021
    Hi Dave,


    We don't grow rice locally, salt is mined far, far away. Sugar cane
    does not do well in the local climate, etc. etc.

    No, but you can get a lot of your veggies and meats locally. I didn't
    mean to say buy everything local, just what you can, and look for the
    best value in what has to be brought in, otherwise.

    Title: Khao Neeo Durian
    Categories: Rice, Fruits, Desserts
    Yield: 4 Servings

    You could buy the fruit locally if you lived in some Asian regions. (G)

    I could buy it at the Asian Foods Store until the tornadoes did a job

    About as local as you could get, plus the shipping in from several
    thousand miles away. Tornadoes do put an end to so many places like
    that; usually the owners have no or insufficient insurance to rebuild or
    just don't want to rebuild.

    on it and the Mr. Battery next door. They found batteries as much as a mile from the site of the (former) building. And there were reports of
    the odd durian with its spiky husk being found in some back yards.

    No surprise. We've not been thru tornadoes--had some close calls but the pictures I've seen of the aftermath, even relatively near us, is enough
    to scare you.

    Title: Texas Tornado Cake *
    Categories: Cakes, Chocolate, Desserts
    Yield: 9 Servings


    * Original title was "Texas Tornado Pudding Cake" but,
    as I saw no pudding in the recipe, I renamed it. - UDD

    I've made a similar one we call Hot Fudge Pudding Cake, have also seen
    it called Ice Cream Sundae Cake. We make the base layer, sprinkle on the
    mix of brown sugar and cocoa, then pour water over the whole thing &
    bake. Whatever it's called, it was a family favorite when I was growing
    up and our girls enjoyed it when they were home.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Aug 18 11:20:56 2021
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Title: Khao Neeo Durian
    Categories: Rice, Fruits, Desserts
    Yield: 4 Servings

    You could buy the fruit locally if you lived in some Asian regions. (G)

    I could buy it at the Asian Foods Store until the tornadoes did a job

    About as local as you could get, plus the shipping in from several thousand miles away. Tornadoes do put an end to so many places like
    that; usually the owners have no or insufficient insurance to rebuild
    or just don't want to rebuild.

    The core business was Asian restaurant foods supply. They relocated to
    the St. Louis Metro area.

    on it and the Mr. Battery next door. They found batteries as much as a mile from the site of the (former) building. And there were reports of
    the odd durian with its spiky husk being found in some back yards.

    No surprise. We've not been thru tornadoes--had some close calls but
    the pictures I've seen of the aftermath, even relatively near us, is enough to scare you.

    I've been near enough to tornadoes - one took a path through the back
    yard of my house .... amd didn't disturb a shingle. Didn't do the next
    door neighbour's garage a world of good, thought. Our school sports
    teams were called the "Tornadoes".

    The tornadoes that took out the Asian Supply criss crossed Springfield
    within two hours of each other. I was livig in a mobile home at the time.

    All jokes to the contrary about trailer parks being tornado magnets - we
    didn't even lose any branches off of the trees. The Path of the storms
    though looked like pictures I have seen of war zones after heavy bombing.

    I sort of thought of it as Mother Nature's urban renewal.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: The Urban Peasant's Cauliflower Cheese
    Categories: Vegetables, Dairy, Cheese
    Yield: 4 servings

    1 Cauliflower
    2 tb (30 mL) butter
    2 tb (30 mL) all-purpose flour
    1 c (250 mL) Milk
    1/2 ts (ea) salt & pepper
    2 Egg yolks beaten
    1 ts (5 mL) paprika
    1 ts (5 mL) grated lemon zest
    1/2 c (125 mL) shredded Canadian
    - Cheddar cheese

    Set the oven @ 400ºF/200ºC.

    Break the cauliflower into florets and boil until just
    tender. Drain and place in a 9" (23 cm) square baking
    dish.

    Melt the butter in a saucepan over medium heat. Stir in
    the flour to form a paste. Slowly add the milk, stirring
    constantly as you bring it to a boil. Add the salt,
    pepper, egg yolks, paprika and lemon zest, stirring
    quickly so that the yolks do not curdle. Add half of the
    Canadian Cheddar and mix until it melts.

    Pour the sauce over the cauliflower and top with the
    rest of the cheese. Bake for 15 to 20 min or until
    lightly browned.

    BY: James Barber, The Urban Peasant

    RECIPE FROM: https://dairyfarmersofcanada.ca

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Aug 21 15:23:39 2021
    Hi Dave,


    I could buy it at the Asian Foods Store until the tornadoes did a job

    About as local as you could get, plus the shipping in from several thousand miles away. Tornadoes do put an end to so many places like
    that; usually the owners have no or insufficient insurance to rebuild
    or just don't want to rebuild.

    The core business was Asian restaurant foods supply. They relocated to
    the St. Louis Metro area.

    Just a bit too far to make a casual, drop in, shopping trip. On our way
    home from the Outer Banks yesterday we took a route that would take us
    by a quilt shop we'd stopped at before. So, we stopped--and shopped. We
    also, since we had it with us, pulled the sewing machine that we keep in
    the camper out and turned it in for servicing. It had never been
    serviced in the 15 year history of owning it (Deborah owned it for a
    while but never got it serviced.) so we figured it was about time to get
    it cleaned, etc. We'll pick it up next week, and probably do more
    shopping.

    on it and the Mr. Battery next door. They found batteries as much as a mile from the site of the (former) building. And there were reports of
    the odd durian with its spiky husk being found in some back yards.

    No surprise. We've not been thru tornadoes--had some close calls but
    the pictures I've seen of the aftermath, even relatively near us, is enough to scare you.

    I've been near enough to tornadoes - one took a path through the back
    yard of my house .... amd didn't disturb a shingle. Didn't do the next door neighbour's garage a world of good, thought. Our school sports

    We think we had one go over our heads when we were living in a tin can
    on wheels in San Angelo, TX back in 1984.

    teams were called the "Tornadoes".

    No surprise.


    The tornadoes that took out the Asian Supply criss crossed Springfield within two hours of each other. I was livig in a mobile home at the
    time.

    All jokes to the contrary about trailer parks being tornado magnets -
    we didn't even lose any branches off of the trees. The Path of the
    storms
    though looked like pictures I have seen of war zones after heavy
    bombing.

    The "after" pictures always do look pretty awesome in the amount of destruction. Some friends of ours moved out to OK from NC about 10
    years ago, to a town that had just been hit by a major storm. They are
    now back in NC, still subject to tornadoes.

    I sort of thought of it as Mother Nature's urban renewal.

    Sort of, yes.

    Title: The Urban Peasant's Cauliflower Cheese
    Categories: Vegetables, Dairy, Cheese
    Yield: 4 servings


    Looks good. Steve doesn't like caulifower that much if it's plain but is
    more willing to eat it if I put a cheese sauce on it. Even some grated
    Parm will make a difference; I did it that way when the girls were still
    living at home and every bit was eaten.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Aug 23 02:50:02 2021
    On 08-21-21 15:23, Ruth Haffly <=-
    spoke to Dave Drum about Humphrey's <=-


    Just a bit too far to make a casual, drop in, shopping trip. On our
    way home from the Outer Banks yesterday we took a route that would take
    us by a quilt shop we'd stopped at before. So, we stopped--and shopped.
    We also, since we had it with us, pulled the sewing machine that we
    keep in the camper out and turned it in for servicing. It had never
    been serviced in the 15 year history of owning it (Deborah owned it for
    a while but never got it serviced.) so we figured it was about time to
    get it cleaned, etc. We'll pick it up next week, and probably do more shopping.

    Any excuse to get back for more fresh seafood, right?

    No surprise. We've not been thru tornadoes--had some close calls but

    Nor have we. We have been through multiple hurricanes, and even an
    earthquake -- but the thought of a tornadoe is the most scary. Even
    though a hurricane does damage over a wider area, the fact that it is
    coming is predicable days in advance. For a tornado, the time frame is
    only minutes.

    Title: The Urban Peasant's Cauliflower Cheese

    Looks good. Steve doesn't like caulifower that much if it's plain but
    is more willing to eat it if I put a cheese sauce on it. Even some
    grated Parm will make a difference; I did it that way when the girls
    were still living at home and every bit was eaten.

    I recall the cauliflower pizza that Michael made up at the pond for us
    all. That was decent. I've also heard that mashed cauliflower makes a reasonable substitute for mashed potatoes.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: LENTIL STEW CREOLE
    Categories: Main dish, Ovolacto
    Yield: 6 Servings

    2 Carrots, sliced
    1 Stalk celery, chopped
    1 lg Onion, chopped
    1/2 lb Fresh okra, sliced
    1/4 lb Fresh green beans, cut
    1 ts Low sodium soy sauce
    1 ts Apple juice concentrate
    1/2 Green pepper, chopped
    1 cn (16oz) tomatoes, quartered,
    With juice, no salt added
    1 cl Garlic, minced
    1 tb Red wine, optional
    1 c Cooked lentils
    Tabasco sauce, optional

    Heat all ingredients except lentils and Tabasco until boiling; reduce
    heat and simmer 10 minutes. Add lentils and simmer and additional
    15-20 minutes. Stir in Tabasco if using.

    Per serving: Calories: 81 Protein: 4g Carbohydrates: 14g Fat: 1g
    Sodium: 78mg Cholesterol: 0mg

    Adapted from Cooking for Good Health by Gloria Rose ISBN:
    0-89529-577-6 Entered by Carolyn Shaw 3-95.

    Recipe posted by: Carolyn Shaw

    MMMMM


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dale Shipp on Mon Aug 23 14:32:21 2021
    Hi Dale,

    Just a bit too far to make a casual, drop in, shopping trip. On our
    way home from the Outer Banks yesterday we took a route that would take
    us by a quilt shop we'd stopped at before. So, we stopped--and shopped.
    We also, since we had it with us, pulled the sewing machine that we
    keep in the camper out and turned it in for servicing. It had never
    been serviced in the 15 year history of owning it (Deborah owned it for
    a while but never got it serviced.) so we figured it was about time to
    get it cleaned, etc. We'll pick it up next week, and probably do more shopping.

    Any excuse to get back for more fresh seafood, right?

    No, the shop is only about half an hour from Wake Forest so any seafood
    in that area is probably about as fresh as we'd get. Actually, since
    we're a bit closer to Raleigh, we might get it fresher, especially if
    it's flown in from the coast. (G)


    No surprise. We've not been thru tornadoes--had some close calls but

    Nor have we. We have been through multiple hurricanes, and even an earthquake -- but the thought of a tornadoe is the most scary. Even though a hurricane does damage over a wider area, the fact that it is coming is predicable days in advance. For a tornado, the time frame
    is only minutes.

    At least now we have weather radios and other warning systems. If the
    spotters can catch the formation in time, it's possible to minimise the
    loss of life--but not damage control otherwise. We have a weather radio;
    when it goes off and lets us know of a watch or warning in this area,
    we'll turn on the tv for more information--and keep it on until the "all
    clear" is given.

    Title: The Urban Peasant's Cauliflower Cheese

    Looks good. Steve doesn't like caulifower that much if it's plain but
    is more willing to eat it if I put a cheese sauce on it. Even some
    grated Parm will make a difference; I did it that way when the girls
    were still living at home and every bit was eaten.

    I recall the cauliflower pizza that Michael made up at the pond for us all. That was decent. I've also heard that mashed cauliflower makes
    a reasonable substitute for mashed potatoes.

    The pizza was ok for what it was but nothing I'd order or buy at a
    grocery store. As for a sub for mashed potatoes, I'd rather have it as cauliflower and get another vegetable. I'll eat mashed potatoes, but not
    nearly as often as I did when I was growing up. (My dad insisted on them
    almost every night.)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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