• pot herbs

    From JIM WELLER@1:135/392 to DALE SHIPP on Sun Oct 10 21:57:00 2021

    Quoting Dale Shipp to Jim Weller <=-

    Doc's main portal was down.

    I gather from talking to Dave that it was a
    problem with the html link.

    Yeah, for some reason, http://bbs.fidosysop.org/default.htm stopped
    working without warning and http://bbs.docsplace.org/default.htm
    which went dead sometime ago is active again.

    I wonder if tripe is available to most/any of us here.

    My Loblaws carries it.

    I have no idea what "pot herbs" means.

    It's a generic term for a variety of herbs that go well together in
    soups and stews. You can basically throw in whatever leafy green you
    want.

    Title: Philadelphia Pepper Pot
    1 Bun
    -parsley, chopped
    -pot herbs

    add the potatoes, which have been cut in squares, and the pot
    herbs.

    I suspect the recipe got cut off and mangled when it was converted.
    That should have read 1 bunch of pot herbs all in one line.

    add some chopped parsley and serve at once.

    "Some" parsley, but not a whole bunch.

    I have recipes for PPP that call for these herbs: bay leaves,
    celery, green onions or leeks, basil, marjoram and thyme.

    Cheers

    Jim

    ... Herb gardeners are always looking for sage advice

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Jim Weller on Tue Oct 12 00:58:04 2021
    On 10-10-21 21:57, Jim Weller <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about pot herbs <=-

    I have no idea what "pot herbs" means.

    It's a generic term for a variety of herbs that go well together in
    soups and stews. You can basically throw in whatever leafy green you
    want.

    Title: Philadelphia Pepper Pot
    1 Bun
    -parsley, chopped
    -pot herbs

    add the potatoes, which have been cut in squares, and the pot
    herbs.

    I suspect the recipe got cut off and mangled when it was converted.
    That should have read 1 bunch of pot herbs all in one line.

    Good idea. That sort of thing happens when a two column recipe is
    exported as a one column recipe. I wish that two column recipes could
    be outlawed.

    I have recipes for PPP that call for these herbs: bay leaves,
    celery, green onions or leeks, basil, marjoram and thyme.

    I am getting the idea that "pot herbs" is as generic a term as "garam
    masala", "curry powder", or "chili powder".


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    Title: Brisket Chunk Wagon Stew
    Categories: Stew, Beef
    Yield: 1 Servings

    2 tb Bacon grease or vegetable
    Oil
    3 lb Beef brisket, fat trimmed
    And cut into 1 1/2 in cube
    3/4 ts Salt
    1/2 ts Black pepper, freshly
    Ground
    1 lg Onion, chopped
    2 Cloves garlic, minced
    4 c Beef stock (preferably
    Homemade or canned
    -low-sodium broth)
    8 oz Chopped mild green chilies,
    Drained
    2 lb Red-skinned potatoes,
    Scrubbed and cut into
    - 1 in pieces
    2 c Fresh or thawed frozen corn
    Kernels
    1/4 c Fresh cilantro (coriander)
    Or parsley, chopped
    1 c Flour

    In a large flameproof casserole or Dutch oven, heat the bacon grease
    over medium heat. Season the beef brisket with salt and pepper.
    Working in batches to avoid crowding, add the brisket and cook,
    turning occasionally, until browned on all sides, about 8 minutes.
    Transfer the brisket to a plate.

    Add the onion and garlic to the casserole and cook, stirring often,
    until the onion is softened, about 4 minutes. Stir in the beef stock.
    Return the brisket to the pot and add the chilies. Bring to a simmer
    over high heat, skimming off any foam that forms on the surface.
    Reduce the heat to low, cover and simmer until the brisket is tender,
    about 2-1/2 hours.

    During the last 30 minutes, stir in the potatoes, corn, and cilantro.
    Remove from the heat and let stand 5 minutes. Skim any fat from the
    top of the stew. (It's easier to remove the fat if the stew is cooled
    to room temperature, covered and refrigerated overnight. Discard
    hardened fat from surface. Reheat gently over low heat before
    proceeding.)

    In a small bowl, whisk 1 cup of the cooking liquid with the flour
    until smooth. Stir into the stew and simmer until the sauce is
    thickened, about 3 minutes. Season the stew with additional salt and
    pepper; serve hot. Freezes and reheats well.

    Makes 8 servings.

    Per serving: 2 vegetable, 2 bread/starch, 4 medium-fat meat, 1 fat;

    543 calories, 38 gm carbohydrate, 37 gm protein, 27 gm fat,
    509 mg sodium, 114 mg cholesterol, and 41 mg calcium
    (Diabetic exchanges and nutrient data calculated by
    Bea Krinke, St. Paul, a registered dietitian.)

    Recipe: "National Cowboy Hall of Fame Chuck Wagon Cookbook, Authentic
    Recipes from the Ranch and the Range" by B. Byron Price
    (William Morrow & Co., Hearst Books, New York, 1995, hardcover,
    $20, 302 pages).

    From: David Pileggi Date: 07-15 Cooking

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Dale Shipp on Tue Oct 12 04:59:00 2021
    Dale Shipp wrote to Jim Weller <=-

    I have recipes for PPP that call for these herbs: bay leaves,
    celery, green onions or leeks, basil, marjoram and thyme.

    I am getting the idea that "pot herbs" is as generic a term as "garam masala", "curry powder", or "chili powder".

    If it helps - think of "pot herbs" as an Anglicized term for "bouquet
    garni"

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Sara's Turkey Gravy
    Categories: Live!, Sauces, Poultry, Wine
    Yield: 3 Cups

    Neck and gizzard of 1 turkey
    1 Onion; quartered
    1 Carrot; halved
    1 Rib celery; halved
    6 c Chicken broth or water
    6 tb Turkey fat
    6 tb Flour
    1 c Dry white wine

    MMMMM-----------------------BOUQUET GARNI----------------------------
    1 Bay leaf
    5 Peppercorns
    5 Parsley stems
    2 Sprigs thyme

    Recipe Courtesy of Sara Moulton

    Place turkey neck and giblets in a 3 quart saucepan. Cover
    with chicken broth or water. Bring to a boil, then turn
    heat down to simmer. Simmer, uncovered, for 15 minutes,
    skimming foam off top of stock.

    Tie bay leaf, peppercorns, parsley stems, and thyme in
    cheesecloth. This is your bouquet garni.

    Add onion, carrot, celery and bouquet garni to stock and
    simmer 2 hours, adding more stock or water as necessary to
    keep the neck and giblets well covered.

    Remove stock from heat and strain. Should equal 3 cups. If
    needed, add additional water to equal 3 cups, or boil to
    reduce to 3 cups.

    Remove turkey from roasting pan. Place on carving board to
    catch the juices.

    Pour off fat into defatting cup. To roasting pan, return 6
    tablespoons of turkey fat. Add 6 tablespoons of flour to
    fat. Cook for 3 minutes to eliminate to raw flour taste.
    Add 1 cup wine to roux and whisk until smooth. Add three
    cups stock and bring to a boil. Add any accumulated juices
    from carving board. Reduce heat and simmer until
    thickened.

    UDD NOTE: I use the turkey's liver, as well. And I pick
    the meat from the neck and fine chop the gizzard and
    liver to add back to the gravy.

    SOURCE: COOKING LIVE! Show w/Sara Moulton # CL9238

    Format by Dave Drum - 05 February 99

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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