• Any good smoker recipes?

    From Nigel Reed@1:124/5016 to Fidonet.COOKING on Sun Dec 26 05:14:22 2021
    I've had a Masterbuilt electric smoker for a few years now and have
    done brisket and roasts, pork tenderloin, sausages, cheese, and ribeyes
    and just wondered if anyone else has good smoker recipes for various
    cuts of meat. Oh yes, also have smoked salmon, which turned out really
    good. My father doesn't like salmon, and he eat it!
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Nigel Reed on Mon Dec 27 05:30:00 2021
    Nigel Reed wrote to Fidonet.COOKING <=-

    G'day, Nigel. Drop around more often please. Bv)=

    I've had a Masterbuilt electric smoker for a few years now and have
    done brisket and roasts, pork tenderloin, sausages, cheese, and ribeyes and just wondered if anyone else has good smoker recipes for various
    cuts of meat. Oh yes, also have smoked salmon, which turned out really good. My father doesn't like salmon, and he eat it!

    I don't do much smoking. Dale Shipp and Married Ruth's husband are the
    echo "experts" at that. But, here's a recipe I *have* done - from out
    of left-field.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Grapevine Smoked Chuck Roast
    Categories: Five, Beef, Bbq
    Yield: 6 Servings

    3 lb Chuck roast
    Garlic powder
    Salt and Pepper
    Grapevines for smoke

    After pruning the family's Concord grape vines, I
    decided to use a few trimmings to make grapevine smoked
    chuck roast on my gas grill. I'd never used grapevines
    to smoke food before, so it was the perfect opportunity
    to experiment with this new smoking wood.

    I decided to use a chuck roast for two reasons. First,
    it was a relatively inexpensive cut of meat. If the
    grapevine smoke ruined the meat, the loss wouldn't be
    that great. And second, beef chuck contains quite a bit
    of fat and connective tissue, which adds to juiciness
    and flavor. And I like juice and flavor!

    Season the roast lightly on all sides with the salt,
    pepper and garlic powder. Cover it and let it set at
    room temp. Set up your grill for smoking, heating it
    to 250ºF/120ºC. The pieces of grapevine can be wrapped
    in a foil pouch, or put in a bread pan covered with
    foil, and placed over one of the burners set on high.

    When the grapevines begin to smoke, turn the burner
    under the grapevines down to medium, then pop the
    chuck roast into the grill and close 'er up. After
    one and one-half hours at 250ºF/120ºC, wrap the roast
    in a double layer of aluminum foil and place it back
    in the grill. Increase the grill temperature to 350ºF/
    175ºC degrees and continue cooking for another 1 1/2
    hours.

    Remove the grapevine smoked chuck roast and let it
    rest, still wrapped in foil, for 20 to 30 minutes.
    After the rest, it can be sliced for great tasting
    sandwiches. A little homemade barbecue sauce would
    be a nice finishing touch.

    From: http://www.smoker-cooking.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Nigel Reed on Tue Dec 28 00:39:06 2021
    On 12-27-21 05:30, Dave Drum <=-
    spoke to Nigel Reed about Any good smoker recipes? <=-

    G'day, Nigel. Drop around more often please. Bv)=

    Yes please.

    I've had a Masterbuilt electric smoker for a few years now and have
    done brisket and roasts, pork tenderloin, sausages, cheese, and ribeyes and just wondered if anyone else has good smoker recipes for various
    cuts of meat. Oh yes, also have smoked salmon, which turned out really good. My father doesn't like salmon, and he eat it!

    We moved to a retirement village a bit more than 1 1/2 years ago. Since
    they do not allow any sort of open fire, I gave away all of my smoking
    gear. I had a series of three Masterbuilt electric smokers over the
    span of more than a decade. Each one eventually developed some sort of electrical problem -- usually a short or burnout in the wires that went
    to the heating unit. I managed to repair each machine once, but ended
    up giving up since I knew we would be moving. My son took my pellet
    grill and the dead smoker. I don't know if he has managed to nurse it
    back to health.

    I don't do much smoking. Dale Shipp and Married Ruth's husband are the echo "experts" at that. But, here's a recipe I *have* done - from out
    of left-field.

    I don't really have much in the way of recipes. I used a brine for pork shoulder that Dave Sacerdote posted here. I used rubs that Dave Drum
    has posted. I had a few smoking books that were used as references.
    Most important was that every smoke session I did, I kept a log of how
    it went -- noting smoke level and temperature of meat as time went on.
    I'd refer back to those logs the next time.

    Another thing I did was to do cold smoke of cheeses. For this I used a
    device called the A-maze-N. It burned special sawdust from various
    sorts of wood; I prefered apple for most smoking. When I bought my
    first one, it was only sold by mail order from the guy who had invented
    it -- but now you can find it marketed in a variety of places, e.g.
    Amazon. There are also versions now that will work with wood pellets.

    Whenever I did cheeses (only in winter time) I would make a sketch map
    of the lay out of the cheeses showing where the cheddar, mozz, pepper
    jack, etc. when on the grates. That was very helpful since after they
    were smoked, they tended to look a lot alike.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Jim's Chicken Corn Chowder
    Categories: Chowder, Soup, Chicken, Corn, Ham
    Yield: 1 servings

    1 Whole chicken (5-7 lbs.)
    1 1/2 c Smoked ham
    1 md Onion, minced
    1 lg Clove garlic, minced
    4 c Water
    1/2 lg Green bell pepper, chopped
    1/2 lg Red bell pepper, chopped
    6 c Fresh or frozen corn
    1/2 ts Tarragon
    1/2 ts Marjoram
    1/2 ts Thyme
    1/8 ts Allspice
    1/8 ts Sage
    1/4 ts Savory
    1 c Warm milk
    1/8 ts Pepper
    1/8 ts Salt

    Wash chicken inside and out. Place chicken in a large stock pot. Fill
    pot with enough water to cover chicken to a depth of one inch. Cover,
    bring to a boil; reduce heat and simmer until chicken separates from
    bones, about 2 hours. With a wide slotted spatula remove chicken to a
    plate. Refrigerate until cool enough to handle. Strain broth to
    remove any bones and refrigerate. When broth is cool skim fat from
    the top. Return 8 cups of broth to pot. Freeze remaining broth for
    later use. Yield: 20 cups broth.

    Add the spices, ham and 4 cups of water to broth. Cover, bring to a
    boil. Reduce heat and simmer for 1/2 hour. Meanwhile remove skin and
    bones from chicken, and discard. Coarsely chop chicken and peppers.
    Mince onion and garlic, add to broth. Simmer for 1/2 hour longer,
    stirring occasionally. Remove cover and bring to a boil; add corn and
    return to a boil. Reduce heat and simmer 1/2 hour, stirring
    occasionally. Warm milk and slowly add to chowder, and stir as it is
    poured in. Simmer, uncovered 15-20 minutes more.

    Note: Freezes well.

    SOURCE:*Jim Bodle
    POSTED BY: Jim Bodle
    From: Jim Bodle Date: 11-01
    Home_cooking

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  • From Nigel Reed@1:124/5016 to All on Mon Dec 27 23:53:21 2021
    On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 05:30:00 -0500
    "Dave Drum" <dave.drum@1:3634/12> wrote:


    I don't do much smoking. Dale Shipp and Married Ruth's husband are
    the echo "experts" at that. But, here's a recipe I *have* done - from
    out of left-field.

    Thanks for that but I'm out of grapevines lol. I'll maybe adapt for
    other sweet wood.
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Nigel Reed on Tue Dec 28 11:25:14 2021
    Nigel Reed wrote to Fidonet.COOKING <=-

    I've had a Masterbuilt electric smoker for a few years now and have
    done brisket and roasts, pork tenderloin, sausages, cheese, and ribeyes and just wondered if anyone else has good smoker recipes for various
    cuts of meat. Oh yes, also have smoked salmon, which turned out really good. My father doesn't like salmon, and he eat it!

    One you might find interesting:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Thrice Cooked Smoked Duck
    Categories: Loo, Smoked, Chinese, Loo, Tofu
    Yield: 1 Servings

    1 Duck
    Salt
    2 Scallions
    2 sl Ginger
    1 tb Fermented bean curd
    (optional)
    1 c Camphor wood chips (cedar
    Would probably work here!)*
    1 c Raw rice
    Oil

    Rub the duck inside and out with salt. Let sit in a cold place for 2
    ~ 3 days. Stuff the duck with scallions and ginger. Steam it over
    boiling water for 1 hr (the restaurant omitted this step, I think, or
    rushed it). Remove and let cool. Rub the outside with the fermented
    bean curd. Smoke duck slowly for 1 hr over camphor wood and raw rice
    in Cameron smoker or improvised stovetop smoker. Remove and let cool.
    With a cleaver, halve the duck. Discard scallions and ginger if they
    haven't fallen out already. Deep-fry the halves at 370+ until skin
    and bones are crisp. Chop into Chinese-style serving pieces. Serve
    warm or cool.

    * other combustibles may be used, for example orange peel, dry tea
    leaves, or any sweet-smelling and nontoxic wood.

    This is not a tested recipe, but if sort-of followed will produce a
    dish very similar to that served once upon a time by Yenching Palace
    in Boston. From: Michael Loo

    MMMMM

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  • From JIM WELLER@1:135/392 to SEAN DENNIS on Wed Dec 29 21:11:00 2021

    Quoting Sean Dennis to Nigel Reed <=-

    Title: Thrice Cooked Smoked Duck
    1 c Camphor wood chips (cedar
    Would probably work here!)*

    I would be very hesitant in using camphor to smoke food. The fumes
    would smell like a combination of turpentine, moth balls and Vick's
    Vaporub and is excellent for repelling insects.

    Likewise I would avoid cedar and any other coniferous evergreen
    woods that contain a lot of tars and turpenes.

    Cheers

    Jim

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  • From JIM WELLER@1:135/392 to DAVE DRUM on Wed Dec 29 21:17:00 2021

    Quoting Dave Drum to Nigel Reed <=-

    I am told that cherry is great for smoking - so said the guy who took
    down my wind damaged cherry tree at no cost to me. Well I bought his
    lunch and gave him some cookies.

    Cherry wood smoke is light and sweet, so not overpowering on less
    robust foods. It's absolutely amazing for chicken.




    Cheers

    Jim


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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Nigel Reed on Thu Dec 30 01:26:04 2021
    Nigel Reed wrote to All <=-

    As I said in my previous message to you about smoking, I do not have
    recipes for smoking itself. However, I woke up Gail's sleeping machine
    long enough to look for the recipes we have using smoked products. Here
    come four of them, two at a time:

    The first of these is the only gumbo I make. The use of peperoni is
    unusual, but was born of necessity from when the more normal andouille
    sausage was not available in this area. Now almost ever store carries andouille in some form.

    [contains 2 recipes]
    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Smoked Chicken And Pepperoni Gumbo
    Categories: D/g, Cajun, Chicken
    Yield: 6 servings

    -Spice mixture:
    1/4 ts White pepper
    1/4 ts Red pepper
    1/2 ts Black pepper
    1/2 ts Thyme
    1 ts Dry parsley flakes
    1/2 ts Gumbo file powder
    -(optional)
    -Vegetables:
    2 c Onion
    2 c Green pepper
    2 c Celery
    -meats:
    2 Smoked chicken breasts.
    12 Inches pepperoni.
    -broth:
    6 c Chicken broth

    **One hour to prep
    1/2 hour to get to simmer
    1/2 hour on slow simmer

    Ready time to table = 2 hours.


    Prepare vegetables.
    Cut half in larger hunks (say 1/2 inch) and cut rest
    in fine chop (or use food processor).

    Meats:
    two smoked chicken breasts, pulled from bone, skinned and
    pulled into bite size pieces by hand. If you do not have smoked
    chicken, you may get away with using a small amount of liquid
    smoke. I would guess no more than 1/4 teaspoon.
    one stick (about 12 inches) pepperoni, cut into moderately
    thick slices. (say 1/8 inch or about twice as thick as presliced
    pizza pepperoni usually is)

    Preparation:
    Using cast iron dutch oven, take the large cut onions and
    singe them over medium high heat in the dry pan for about 3-4
    minutes, stirring constantly. Then add the rest of the vegetables
    and cook for about 5 minutes more on medium heat, stirring
    frequently. Then add spice mixture and stir to incorporate. Stir
    in about 2 tablespoon dry roux. Add the broth and the pepperoni
    slices. Turn heat down to medium low and simmer for at least 1/2
    hour or until vegetables are tender and flavors are merged. About
    5 minutes before serving, add the chunks of chicken breasts to
    the mixture. At the same time, add more roux to thicken if
    desired.

    Serve in bowl over lots of rice.

    For additional smoke flavor, wrap the chicken bones
    and skin in cheese cloth and place in the mixture at the same time
    as the pepperoni. Remove all the bones and all the skin before
    stirring in the chicken pieces.

    Makes 8 to 10 servings.

    == Courtesy of Dale & Gail Shipp, Columbia Md. ===

    MMMMM

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    Title: Dry Rub for smoked ribs
    Categories: Rub, Smoker, Pork
    Yield: 1 servings

    1 tb Ground black pepper
    1 T Ground white pepper
    2 T Brown sugar
    2 tb Paprika
    1 t Salt
    1 tb Dry mustard
    1 T Onion powder
    1 T Garlic powder
    1 ts Cayenne red pepper
    1 T Chili powder
    1 T Thyme

    Mix all together.
    Rub onto surface of ribs before cooking in the smoker.
    This makes enough for about 10 pounds of country ribs.

    Adapted from several recipes from the echos.

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Nigel Reed on Thu Dec 30 01:32:06 2021

    And here are another two:

    [contains 2 recipes]

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Smoked Salmon Quiche
    Categories: Tested, Easy
    Yield: 4 Servings

    MMMMM--------------------------FILLING-------------------------------
    1 c UP TO
    1 1/2 c Smoked salmon, flaked
    1/2 c Onion, diced
    1 c Combination peppers
    (red, green, yellow bell)
    Chopped
    2 c Shredded cheddar cheese
    (or swiss, or combination)

    MMMMM---------------------------CRUST--------------------------------
    1 c Bisquick
    2 c Milk
    4 lg Eggs
    1/4 ts Garlic powder
    1/4 ts Cracked pepper
    1/8 ts Cayenne pepper

    Preheat oven to 400 degrees.

    Spray a large 10 inch glass deep dish pie pan if using ONLY 1 cup
    salmon. This will come almost to the rim of the pie pan - it has not
    baked over the top of the pan but I usually place a cookie sheet
    under it just in case.

    USE 7 x 11 inch glass pan when using 1 1/2 cups salmon.

    Sprinkle bottom of pie pan with salmon, onion, peppers and the cheese.

    In a large bowl combine Bisquick, milk, eggs, garlic powder, pepper
    and cayenne. Mix throughly. Pour over the smmoked salmon/cheese
    already in the pie pan.

    Bake in regular oven for about 35 minutes or until a knife inserted
    comes out clean. (If need be bake a bit longer - at 5 min extensions)

    Remove from oven and let rest for 10 minutes.

    Cut into wedges and serve.

    Tested 10/08
    Very nice - easy - you taste the salmon and cheese along with the
    veggies. Second test using leftover baked salmon - USE SMOKED SALMON!
    Much better taste.

    Tested 6/09 using mixture of baked and smoked salmon. Better than
    just baked salmon but not as good as using all smoked salmon.

    DO NOT USE FAT FREE HALF AND HALF - ended up with strange texture.




    Variation of recipe from
    Best of the Best Alaska Cookbook.

    MMMMM

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    Title: Smoked Salmon Pate
    Categories: Easy, Tested, Xmas
    Yield: 1 Sm bowl

    1 c Crumbled smoked salmon
    (6 oz)
    1/2 ts Lemon juice
    2 tb Finely chopped onion
    4 oz Cream cheese - softened
    1/8 c Mayonnaise
    12 ds Dill weed

    Sprinkle crumbled salmon with lemon juice. Add onion and cream
    cheese. Mix together with a fork, then combine with the mayonnaise.
    Sprinkle with the dill weed and stir to incorporate into mixture.

    Serve on crackers.

    Can easily double or triple recipe for party.

    TESTED: Very nice - good smoked salmon flavor, spread nicely.

    Variation of recipe from:
    Best of the Best Alaska coobook

    MMMMM


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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Nigel Reed on Thu Dec 30 01:34:08 2021
    On 12-29-21 05:21, Dave Drum <=-
    spoke to Nigel Reed about Any good smoker recip <=-

    And finally, a recipe for smoking from Dave Sacerdote -- Dave was once
    part of the moderator team.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Sacerdote's Brine For Bacon
    Categories: Smoker, Meat
    Yield: 4 servings

    2 qt Water
    1/2 c Salt
    1/4 c Sugar
    2 tb Pickling spice
    1 sm Apple, finely chopped

    I put the meat into the brine in ziplock bags and let them
    "cure" for four days.

    Drain the meat and pat it dry; smoke over mesquite (all I had at the
    time) at 275 F for four hours.

    Remove from smoker, wrap in foil and chill 24 hours before slicing.

    May be eaten cold with black bread the way they do in Eastern Europe,
    or slice and fry in a skillet over low heat until fat is crunchy and
    meat is browned.

    It came out so good I plan to do it again.

    If you want to try it, you may be able to get the pork belly at
    H-Mart.

    From: Dave Sacerdote Date: 10-14-07
    Cooking

    MMMMM



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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to JIM WELLER on Thu Dec 30 12:37:26 2021
    JIM WELLER wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    I am told that cherry is great for smoking - so said the guy who took
    down my wind damaged cherry tree at no cost to me. Well I bought his
    lunch and gave him some cookies.

    Cherry wood smoke is light and sweet, so not overpowering on less
    robust foods. It's absolutely amazing for chicken.

    I've not used it. And I no longer have a source in my front yard. Bv)=

    I learned (the hard way) to not use black walnut as a smoking wood. It
    has a heavy, bitter flavour (from the walnut oil, I suspect). Walnut
    shells, OTOH, can be nice either on their own or as an addition to fruit
    wood.

    Listen to me doing my "Al Capp" impression. Expert on nothing with an
    opinion on everything. Bv)=

    This looks like something our former guy would do:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Tea-Smoked Duck w/Smoked Walnuts
    Categories: Poultry, Asian, Sauces, Nuts, Herbs
    Yield: 8 servings

    1/4 c Soy sauce
    2 tb + 1/2 cup (divided) Chinese
    - black tea leaves
    2 tb Szechuan peppercorn; toasted
    - crushed
    1 ts Five-spice powder
    3 c (to 40 water; as needed
    4 Duck breasts; skin removed
    - and reserved
    24 California walnuts; whole,
    - in-shell
    Oil
    Salt
    2 oz Hickory wood
    1/2 c Brown sugar
    8 Mandarin pancakes
    +=OR=+
    8 sm Flour tortillas
    1/4 c Plum or hoisin sauce
    8 Scallions; sliced very thin
    - on bias

    Mix soy sauce, 2 tablespoons black tea, peppercorns and
    five-spice powder with 3 cups water. Remove all visible
    fat from duck. Place in nonreactive bowl, cover with
    mixture and add additional water if necessary to barely
    cover.

    Crack walnuts slightly, but leave in shell and add to
    marinade. Cryovac for 1 hour at room temperature or
    marinate in refrigerator for 24 hours.

    Chill duck skin and slice into thin strips about 1/8"
    wide. Fry skin in oil until very crispy. Drain and
    season with salt.

    Mix 1/2 cup black tea, hickory wood and sugar and
    smoke-cook duck on a stovetop smoker with low flame for
    about 30 minutes, or until 130° F at thickest point. 15
    minutes before duck is ready, add cracked walnuts to
    smoker.

    Remove duck and walnuts. Shell nuts. Slice duck.

    Heat pancakes until warmed and spread each with 1
    teaspoon sauce. Add duck, walnuts, scallions and crisped
    skin and serve.

    Makes: 8 servings

    By Rebecca Peizer

    RECIPE FROM: https://walnuts.org

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Jim Weller on Sat Jan 1 00:07:18 2022
    JIM WELLER wrote to SEAN DENNIS <=-

    I would be very hesitant in using camphor to smoke food. The fumes
    would smell like a combination of turpentine, moth balls and Vick's Vaporub and is excellent for repelling insects.

    I didn't even look at that...yeah, I agree.

    Likewise I would avoid cedar and any other coniferous evergreen
    woods that contain a lot of tars and turpenes.

    Agree there also.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: CHICKEN WITH CHIPPED BEEF AND BACON
    Categories: Entrees, Usenet
    Yield: 4 Servings

    8 Chicken breast halves
    -(4 whole breasts)
    4 oz Chipped beef
    -(1 package)
    8 sl Bacon
    13 oz Mushroom soup
    -concentrate (e.g.
    -1 can Campbell's soup)
    1 c Sour cream

    Cut chipped beef into strips. Line the baking pan with them.

    Wrap bacon around chicken. Put in pan on top of beef.

    Mix soup and sour cream. Pour mixture over chicken. Cover tightly
    and refrigerate overnight, or at least several hours. It comes out
    better if you do it overnight.

    Bake in 275 degree F. oven, uncovered, for three hours.

    NOTES:

    * Succulent and easy chicken -- This recipe makes the most succulent
    and juicy chicken I've had. It is very easy to make. The only
    drawback is that you have to start the night before you want to serve
    it. It would be a good recipe for when you have company, since you
    can do most of the work the previous day.

    * A note on ingredients for non-US cooks: "chipped beef" is cooked
    spiced beef cut into very thin slices and packaged for sandwiches. A
    worthy substitute is roast beef sliced very thin and seasoned
    lightly with salt and pepper. A "can of mushroom soup," such as
    Campbell's soup, is 1 1/2 cups of double-strength cream soup
    concentrate. You can substitute the Knorr Swiss dried mushroom soup
    mix (available worldwide) if you make it with a mixture of milk and
    water. Use 1/2 of a 70-gram package of soup mix with 1 cup of water
    and 1/2 cup of milk. Cook the soup according to package directions,
    then let cool.

    : Difficulty: easy.
    : Time: 5 minutes preparation, 1 day waiting, 3 hours cooking.
    : Precision: no need to measure.

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  • From Nigel Reed@1:124/5016 to JIM WELLER on Sun Jan 2 05:35:40 2022
    On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 21:17:00 -0500
    "JIM WELLER" <jim.weller@1:135/392> wrote:

    Quoting Dave Drum to Nigel Reed <=-

    I am told that cherry is great for smoking - so said the guy who
    took down my wind damaged cherry tree at no cost to me. Well I
    bought his lunch and gave him some cookies.

    Cherry wood smoke is light and sweet, so not overpowering on less
    robust foods. It's absolutely amazing for chicken.

    I've not used a cherry wood yet. I've done apple wood with pork and
    that turned out really well. I'll have to look out for some cherry next
    time I'm out and about.
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