• picnic hams

    From JIM WELLER@1:135/392 to DALE SHIPP on Tue Dec 28 21:30:00 2021

    Quoting Dale Shipp to Jim Weller <=-

    I cannot recall seeing picnic hams in the grocery stores. Why not?
    Have all of the picnic shoulders gone over to the home smoking crowd?

    My store still carries picnic hams (the upper portion of the
    foreleg) as well as "fresh picnic roasts" and both smoked and fresh
    shoulder blade or butt roasts. I just checked on-line and this week
    at least they are actually more expensive than ham, which is odd.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: The Shrubarb Cocktail
    Categories: Beverages, Alcohol, Fruit
    Yield: 12 Servings

    GINGER RHUBARB SHRUB:
    2 lb Rhubarb; in 1/4" pieces
    7 inches ginger in 1/4" coins
    3/4 c Apple cider vinegar
    1 1/4 c Sugar
    COCKTAIL:
    2 oz Gin
    1 1/2 oz Ginger rhubarb shrub
    1/2 oz Fresh lime juice
    Club soda

    For the ginger rhubarb shrub: Combine rhubarb, ginger, vinegar,
    and sugar in a medium saucepan over medium high heat. Cover and
    bring to a boil, then reduce heat to low. Cook, stirring
    occasionally, until rhubarb is completely broken down and strands
    are visible, 10-15 minutes.

    Using a fine-mesh sieve or a colander lined with cheesecloth,
    strain mixture into a glass container. Let cool to room
    temperature, then chill.

    The ginger-rhubarb shrub can be made up to a week in advance and
    stored in the refrigerator. The shrub makes enough for 12
    cocktails.

    For each cocktail: Combine gin, lime juice, and ginger rhubarb
    shrub in a cocktail shaker. Fill shaker with ice and shake until
    outside of shaker is frosty, about 30 seconds. Strain into an
    ice filled Collins glass, filling three quarters full. Top off
    with club soda.

    Matt Duckor in Bon Appetit

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    Cheers

    Jim


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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to JIM WELLER on Wed Dec 29 06:36:00 2021
    JIM WELLER wrote to DALE SHIPP <=-

    I cannot recall seeing picnic hams in the grocery stores. Why not?
    Have all of the picnic shoulders gone over to the home smoking crowd?

    My store still carries picnic hams (the upper portion of the
    foreleg) as well as "fresh picnic roasts" and both smoked and fresh shoulder blade or butt roasts. I just checked on-line and this week
    at least they are actually more expensive than ham, which is odd.

    That got me looking .... Meijer (the "super-stores" that WalMart copied)
    has fresh picnic shoulders @U$1.79/lb and "Spiral sliced, bone in hams"
    @U$.99 /lb.

    Hy-Vee (our Wegman's equivalent) has "Cook's Ham Portions (7.55 lb)"
    @U$1.48/lb and Hy-Vee Spiral Sliced whole ham (14.95 lb) @U$2.48/lb and
    Pork shoulder roast @U$1.78/lb

    OTOH whole pork loins are U$2.49/lb but are often on sale for <99c/lb.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Apple-Cinnamon Pork Tenderloin
    Categories: Five, Pork, Fruits
    Yield: 3 Servings

    1 lb Grassfed * pork tenderloin
    2 Tart apples; peeled, cored
    - sliced
    2 tb Cornstarch
    2 tb Raisins
    1 ts Ground cinnamon

    Set the oven @ 350ºF/175ºC

    Place the pork tenderloin in a roasting pan or casserole
    dish with a lid.

    Combine and blend apples, cornstarch, raisins & cinnamon
    in a bowl.

    Distribute the blend around the pork tenderloin and bake
    about 35 minutes. Remove the lid and spoon the apple
    mixture over the meat. Bake an additional 15 minutes or
    so until the tenderloin is browned and cooked to your
    satisfaction.

    Be careful not to overcook any of these grassfed * pork
    tenderloin recipes so as to destroy valuable nutrients
    and toughen the meat. Grassfed * pork has less fat so
    it cooks faster than normal "store-bought" grainfed pork.

    * Beg to differ on "grass" fed pork. Pigs do not,
    normally, eat grass. They are omnivores, like humans, and
    like humans, are unable to utilise quantities of hay,
    silage or pasture grasses. Certainly pigs can eat grasses
    and modified grasses as humans do. They also rely on bark,
    dead pigs or other animals, trees, worms, insects, and
    garbage for their food.

    "Free Range" would be a better descriptor for the meat
    called for in this recipe. -- UDD

    From: http://www.grassfedrecipes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Dave Drum on Thu Dec 30 01:14:00 2021
    On 12-29-21 06:36, Dave Drum <=-
    spoke to Jim Weller about picnic hams <=-

    OTOH whole pork loins are U$2.49/lb but are often on sale for <99c/lb.

    Something I have mused on before is that when we went to BJs, they
    usually sold whole boneless pork loins for quite a bit less than the
    ribs that used to be attached to a full loin. Go figure?


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: DIRIGIBLES
    Categories: Meats
    Yield: 4 Servings

    4 lg Baking potatoes
    1/2 c Diced cooked turkey
    - or chicken or pork
    1/2 c Diced cooked ham
    1/4 lb Sharp Cheddar Cheese;
    - diced, (1 cup)
    1/4 lb Provolone cheese;
    - diced, (1 cup)
    1 lg Green pepper; seeded
    - and diced
    1 md Onion; chopped
    1/2 c Butter or margarine
    Commercial sour cream
    - or yogurt, for topping
    Chopped chives
    Crumbled cooked bacon

    Scrub potatoes under cold water and place, wet on a baking sheet. Bake
    potatoes at 400 degrees until done, about 1 hour. Let potatoes cool
    to the touch. Cut potatoes in half lengthwise and scoop out pulp,
    leaving nice little boats. Divide pulp in half, reserving half for
    other use. Put a pat of butter in each shell. Mash remaining potato
    pulp and mix with onion, pepper, meat, half the cheese and a spoon or
    two of the sour cream. Spoon into each shell, leaving a well in the
    middle. Divide remaining cheese into the wells and put a pat of
    butter on top. Chill overnight. Heat at 375 degrees until heated
    through. Top with sour cream, bacon, and chives and serve with a nice
    green salad and a crusty bread.

    From AOL. Christie Aspegren, September 93 Round Robin.

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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Dale Shipp on Thu Dec 30 12:11:14 2021
    Dale Shipp wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    OTOH whole pork loins are U$2.49/lb but are often on sale for <99c/lb.

    Something I have mused on before is that when we went to BJs, they
    usually sold whole boneless pork loins for quite a bit less than the
    ribs that used to be attached to a full loin. Go figure?

    It's down to marketing and marketroids. Ribs are "popular" and pushed.
    Which leaves a lot of tenderloins behind. In my area "St. Louis Style"
    ribs are a big thing. And rib tips which are cut off the rack to make
    "St. Louis Style" ribs are cheap. I quite like rib tips ... for the
    price and the cartilage. In that I'm like our departed former guy. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Slow Cooker Pork Rib Tips
    Categories: Pork, Sauces, Rubs
    Yield: 4 Servings

    MMMMM----------------------------RUB---------------------------------
    2 tb Brown sugar
    1 tb Chilli spice mix
    1 ts (ea) salt, pepper, garlic
    - powder & onion powder

    MMMMM----------------------------RIBS---------------------------------
    1 lb Pork rip tips
    18 oz Bottle BBQ sauce; divided
    1 tb Liquid smoke flavoring *

    Mix brown sugar, chilli spice, salt, pepper, garlic
    powder, and onion powder in a small bowl. Rub each rib
    with dry rub mixture until thoroughly coated. Let rest
    for 10 minutes (or longer).

    Mix BBQ sauce and liquid smoke * until well combined.

    Place ribs in the slow cooker and pour BBQ sauce mix evenly
    over ribs.

    Cook on Low until ribs are tender, 4 to 6 hours.

    Set an oven rack about 6" from the heat source and
    light the oven's broiler.

    Remove ribs from the slow cooker and baste w/remaining
    BBQ sauce.

    Broil ribs in the preheated oven for 3 to 5 minutes on
    each side.

    COOK'S NOTE: Instead of broiling the rib tips, you can
    also throw them on the hot grill.

    UDD NOTE: Approach the "liquid smoke" with extreme
    care. It's awf'ly easy to overload. I'm more likely
    to use dry hickory smoke flavouring in the rub. Or
    use Weber/McCormick's/Steven Raichlen pre-made rub
    with the "smoke" already loaded in.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.allrecipes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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