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    From JIM WELLER@1:135/392 to DAVE DRUM on Fri Dec 31 21:36:00 2021

    Quoting Dave Drum to Jim Weller <=-

    ... A knish is just a mashed potato Hot Pocket.

    Not true, Nanook.

    Do not take my taglines too seriously. Most if them are jokes.

    Actually the original ones were filled with seasoned potatoes. The
    meaty ones came later and like pizza became much meatier after they
    arrived in America. And also like pizza there's a bagillion
    non-traditional modern innovations out there today.

    For 2c - Plain" -a deli in the Gaslight Square district of St.
    Louis, MO.

    I looked it up. It was a remarkable place. I would have loved it.

    Title: For 2 Cents - Plain Knishes
    Recipe courtesy Jack & Charlie Carl; 2 Cents Plain
    Deli, 4239 Olive (Gaslight Square), St. Louis, MO.
    UDD NOTE: Directions re-written to remove reference
    to "lard" and "butter" in the interests of keeping
    these Kosher.

    From what I read, the Carls were Russians, but not necessarily
    Jewish. And their deli was "Kosher style", not truly Kosher. Knish is
    a Yiddish word but it derives from Knysh, a Russian and Ukrainian
    word. Knishes are made and eaten all through eastern Europe and the
    Gentiles there certainly use lard.

    Modern ones can have chicken, cheese or even fish in the filling,
    like the following:

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    Title: Mini Knishes
    Categories: Appetizers, Side dish, Cheese, Holiday
    Yield: 36 Servings

    1 md Onion; peeled and chopped
    1 ts Olive oil
    2 c Non-fat small curd cottage
    -cheese
    2 tb Egg replacer mixed with
    1 Extra large egg white
    1/8 ts Ground white pepper
    1 c Cooked mashed Idaho
    -potatoes
    3 Sheets phyllo pastry
    1/3 c Fine dried bread crumbs
    Olive oil spray

    Saute the onion in the olive oil until wilted and golden. Mix the
    onion, cottage cheese, egg, pepper and potatoes in a bowl. Beat
    well by hand or with a hand mixer.

    Coat 1 phyllo sheet with olive oil cooking spray. (Keep the rest
    of the phyllo dough covered.) Sprinkle with 1 tablespoon of bread
    crumbs and cut into 4 inch squares. (A pizza cutter does a good
    job.)

    Place a scant tablespoon of filling in the center of each square.
    Fold the top and bottom of the phyllo over the filling. Turn over
    and fold the 2 sides towards the center.. There will be several
    thicknesses of dough on both the top and bottom of the knish. Place
    the second folded side down on a nonstick baking sheet coated with
    olive oil spray.

    Repeat as above until all the mixture has been used. Prick each
    knish once with a fork; coat lightly with olive oil spray. Bake in
    a preheated 325 F oven for about 30 minutes or until golden brown.

    Harriet Roth's Deliciously Healthy Jewish Cooking (350 New
    Low-Fat, Low Cholesterol, Low Sodium Recipes for Holidays and
    Every Day)

    Posted to JEWISH-FOOD digest by Linda Shapiro on Sep 27, 1998

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    Cheers

    Jim


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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Jim Weller on Sun Jan 2 04:46:40 2022
    JIM WELLER wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    ... A knish is just a mashed potato Hot Pocket.

    Not true, Nanook.

    Do not take my taglines too seriously. Most if them are jokes.

    I knew/know that. Still, an opening is an opening. Bv)=

    Actually the original ones were filled with seasoned potatoes. The
    meaty ones came later and like pizza became much meatier after they arrived in America. And also like pizza there's a bagillion non-traditional modern innovations out there today.

    Which is true of a lot of cuisines that now have meat included. Meat
    was "rich folks" fare. As the peasantry became more affluent (for what
    ever reason(s)) meat began creeping in to their meals. Refrigeration
    helped, also.

    The first pizza I am told was bread, tomato, cheese and basil. Look at
    what it has become.

    For 2c - Plain" -a deli in the Gaslight Square district of St.
    Louis, MO.

    I looked it up. It was a remarkable place. I would have loved it.

    Title: For 2 Cents - Plain Knishes
    Recipe courtesy Jack & Charlie Carl; 2 Cents Plain
    Deli, 4239 Olive (Gaslight Square), St. Louis, MO.
    UDD NOTE: Directions re-written to remove reference
    to "lard" and "butter" in the interests of keeping
    these Kosher.

    From what I read, the Carls were Russians, but not necessarily
    Jewish. And their deli was "Kosher style", not truly Kosher. Knish is
    a Yiddish word but it derives from Knysh, a Russian and Ukrainian
    word. Knishes are made and eaten all through eastern Europe and the Gentiles there certainly use lard.

    Which is why I rewrote their recipe (and noted the revision). We had a
    nice Kosher deli here for a while which had killer knishes. One time I
    ordered sausage and eggs there - just to see what would come on as the "sausage". Turned out to be kosher salami - which was all beef for the
    meat. Not what one would expect - but decent.

    Modern ones can have chicken, cheese or even fish in the filling,
    like the following:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Mini Knishes
    Categories: Appetizers, Side dish, Cheese, Holiday
    Yield: 36 Servings

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    Harriet Roth's Deliciously Healthy Jewish Cooking (350 New
    Low-Fat, Low Cholesterol, Low Sodium Recipes for Holidays and
    Every Day)

    Posted to JEWISH-FOOD digest by Linda Shapiro on Sep 27, 1998

    Building that in my head I would quibble with the "Deliciously" part.
    But, that's my taster. Others may think it great.

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    Title: Beef Breakfast Sausage
    Categories: Beef, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 8 servings

    1 lb 85/15 ground beef
    1 ts Kosher salt
    1/2 ts Ground black pepper
    1 ts Onion powder
    1 ts Garlic powder
    1 ts Smoked paprika
    1/2 ts Dried thyme
    1/2 ts Dried sage
    1/2 ts Crushed red pepper
    2 tb Olive oil

    Place all the ingredients except for the oil in a medium
    bowl and use clean hands to combine them into a uniform
    mixture, but don't over-mix.

    Divide the mixture into four 1/2" thick patties. You can
    also divide it into eight small patties if you wish.

    Heat the olive oil in a large skillet over medium heat.
    Add the patties and cook them until browned and cooked
    through, 4-5 minutes per side.

    You can keep the leftovers in the fridge, in an airtight
    container, for 3-4 days. They keep quite well actually,
    and you can reheat them in the microwave on 50% power.

    Recipe developed by Vered DeLeeuw

    RECIPE FROM: https://healthyrecipesblogs.com

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