I plan to buy another Lenovo laptop, but something newer. I will just
use XP again, but if I buy one preinstalled with Win7, I'd try it. I
have heard Win7 is good, but I;'ve never used it.
Since we're talking about Lenovo Thinkpads...... (another thread), I(snip)
have been considering getting another laptop that is a little more
modern and faster. I've been pretty pleaswd with my T43 models.
james@nospam.com wrote:
Since we're talking about Lenovo Thinkpads...... (another thread), I(snip)
have been considering getting another laptop that is a little more
modern and faster. I've been pretty pleaswd with my T43 models.
I like my company provided t420.
Make sure that your new prospective Lenovo has actual buttons by the touch pad.
If you go with W7 get a 64 bit one and you can have 8 gb RAM or more.
It will be faster than XP and you can run several programs at the same time. >W7 will take some getting used to but I like it better than XP.
My old t400 and t410 did not support 64 bit. I still have the t410 32 bit W7 and
it crawls compared to the t420 64 bit. I agree with you on not getting w8x or w10.
On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 23:43:53 -0600, Paul in Houston TX
<Paul@Houston.Texas> wrote:
james@nospam.com wrote:
Since we're talking about Lenovo Thinkpads...... (another thread), I(snip)
have been considering getting another laptop that is a little more
modern and faster. I've been pretty pleaswd with my T43 models.
I like my company provided t420.
Make sure that your new prospective Lenovo has actual buttons by the
touch pad.
If you go with W7 get a 64 bit one and you can have 8 gb RAM or more.
It will be faster than XP and you can run several programs at the same time. >>W7 will take some getting used to but I like it better than XP.
My old t400 and t410 did not support 64 bit. I still have the t410 32
bit W7 and
it crawls compared to the t420 64 bit. I agree with you on not getting
w8x or w10.
I will only go with Windows 7 if the computer comes with a pre-install
of it. I am not paying $100 or more to buy a Win7 installer CD, and that >seems to be the going rate. If I get a laptop with a blank HDD, I'll
just install XP (which I have).
I dont know if I want the 64 bit though, if I cant run my old software.
For example, I run Winamp and I created a lot of visualizations for it,
over the years and I want to keep using it. I still run Paint Shop Pro
and I still prefer the early versions 3 thru 5. After that it got too
bloated and complicated. Almost all the software I use is from the late
90s or early 2000s.
Mostly what I use my laptop for is to use it at WIFI spots, and play my >videos and music when I am on the road.For those applications, you should be able to find 32 (or 64) bit
I'm not sure waht I have for RAM
in this T43, but I know it's the maximum allowed on that machine.
I'm sure I could use more RAM, but I still think it's Firerfox that
causes the slowing down syndrome. It's like FF gets overloaded. Clearing
the cache helps a little bit.
In message <rcmq0dt9pl7253qjjkg9ru408u6c21vtkg@4ax.com>,Any old hardware hacker has a machine or two around with a COA sticker
I will only go with Windows 7 if the computer comes with a pre-install
of it. I am not paying $100 or more to buy a Win7 installer CD, and that >>seems to be the going rate. If I get a laptop with a blank HDD, I'll
just install XP (which I have).
Presumably you have a spare licence, or a volume licence (you may not
want to answer that on a public newsgroup!).
On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 17:26:06 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" ><G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> wrote:[]
Presumably you have a spare licence, or a volume licence (you may notAny old hardware hacker has a machine or two around with a COA sticker
want to answer that on a public newsgroup!).
on it. In real life MS doesn't really seem to care about XP anymore
anyway. They will authenticate anything with a valid number.
Mine all say "genuine microsoft" or words to that effect.
In message <rcmq0dt9pl7253qjjkg9ru408u6c21vtkg@4ax.com>,
james@nospam.com writes:
On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 23:43:53 -0600, Paul in Houston TX
<Paul@Houston.Texas> wrote:
james@nospam.com wrote:
I will only go with Windows 7 if the computer comes with a pre-install
of it. I am not paying $100 or more to buy a Win7 installer CD, and that >>seems to be the going rate. If I get a laptop with a blank HDD, I'll
just install XP (which I have).
Presumably you have a spare licence, or a volume licence (you may not
want to answer that on a public newsgroup!).
I dont know if I want the 64 bit though, if I cant run my old software.
For example, I run Winamp and I created a lot of visualizations for it, >>over the years and I want to keep using it. I still run Paint Shop Pro
and I still prefer the early versions 3 thru 5. After that it got too >>bloated and complicated. Almost all the software I use is from the late
90s or early 2000s.
I don't know an easy way to tell if software is 16 or 32 bit (Paul? Note
I said _easy_!), but I think most of those are 32 bit.
For those applications, you should be able to find 32 (or 64) bit
Mostly what I use my laptop for is to use it at WIFI spots, and play my >>videos and music when I am on the road.
software that isn't that unusable, if you do end up with a 64 but W7.
(The second-hand market seemed to have more W7-64 systems than W7-32
last time I looked.)
I'm not sure waht I have for RAM
in this T43, but I know it's the maximum allowed on that machine.
(Right-click on empty part of taskbar, select Task Manager, Performance
tab - look under Physical Memory.)
I'm sure I could use more RAM, but I still think it's Firerfox thatTask Manager again, Performance tab - if the "PF Usage" bar is showing
causes the slowing down syndrome. It's like FF gets overloaded. Clearing >>the cache helps a little bit.
above (or near) the amount of Physical memory, something is indeed
slowing it down (look at the PCU Usage section as well of course).
Processes tab, click twice on Mem Usage column heading to see what's
using all the memory (or CPU column for using the CPU). IME, the worst >candidate _is_ Firefox (I use version 26 with some plugins), but only
after using it a while; closing it and restarting it makes it release
lots of memory. (Note that it takes quite a while to close, as seen by
task manager; you'll see the memory usage drop when it eventually
closes.)
FWIW, I find the 2G (max. in this netbook) I have isn't often filled - >usually only if I have had both Firefox and Chrome open for a long time.
(Note that if Task Manager shows you _aren't_ getting close to your
amount of actual RAM, then adding more _won't_ make any difference.)
In message <223s0dl4nttg0kha59dj1c8be9cnokpgd5@4ax.com>,
gfretwell@aol.com writes:
On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 17:26:06 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" >><G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> wrote:[]
Presumably you have a spare licence, or a volume licence (you may not >>>want to answer that on a public newsgroup!).Any old hardware hacker has a machine or two around with a COA sticker
on it. In real life MS doesn't really seem to care about XP anymore
anyway. They will authenticate anything with a valid number.
Mine all say "genuine microsoft" or words to that effect.
One does wonder why they continue to do that.
On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 22:22:59 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" ><G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> wrote:[]
In message <223s0dl4nttg0kha59dj1c8be9cnokpgd5@4ax.com>,
gfretwell@aol.com writes:
on it. In real life MS doesn't really seem to care about XP anymore >>>anyway. They will authenticate anything with a valid number.
Mine all say "genuine microsoft" or words to that effect.
One does wonder why they continue to do that.
I suspect maintaining the old server that tried to track hardware
changes and then had people sitting by the phone to reconcile the
differences was not worth it for a software package they were not
selling anymore. They certainly do not want to say they will breach
the EULA contract and abandon their customers after a while.
That is why they want to migrate to the subscription model with a hard
drop dead date if you don't keep paying, getting away from a lifetime
sale.
In message <jnbs0dpuo6vfnake1r10sajj5bpmbms16e@4ax.com>,
gfretwell@aol.com writes:
On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 22:22:59 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" >><G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> wrote:[]
In message <223s0dl4nttg0kha59dj1c8be9cnokpgd5@4ax.com>, >>>gfretwell@aol.com writes:
on it. In real life MS doesn't really seem to care about XP anymore >>>>anyway. They will authenticate anything with a valid number.
Mine all say "genuine microsoft" or words to that effect.
One does wonder why they continue to do that.
I suspect maintaining the old server that tried to track hardware
changes and then had people sitting by the phone to reconcile the >>differences was not worth it for a software package they were not
Oh, sure; I meant, I'm not sure why they're continuing to authenticate
at all.
selling anymore. They certainly do not want to say they will breach
the EULA contract and abandon their customers after a while.
Why not though? Obviously, I'm happy that they _are_ continuing to >authenticate, just wondering why.
That is why they want to migrate to the subscription model with a hard
drop dead date if you don't keep paying, getting away from a lifetime
sale.
Indeed. I don't think even W10 has got to that yet, but the >can't-block-updates (for most people with moderate or low computer
skills, anyway) is certainly moving towards that.
Any old hardware hacker has a machine or two around with a COA sticker
on it. In real life MS doesn't really seem to care about XP anymore >>>anyway. They will authenticate anything with a valid number.
Mine all say "genuine microsoft" or words to that effect.
One does wonder why they continue to do that.
I suspect maintaining the old server that tried to track hardware
changes and then had people sitting by the phone to reconcile the
differences was not worth it for a software package they were not
selling anymore. They certainly do not want to say they will breach
the EULA contract and abandon their customers after a while.
That is why they want to migrate to the subscription model with a hard
drop dead date if you don't keep paying, getting away from a lifetime
sale.
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