• FREQing

    From Simon Geddes@1:103/705 to All on Sun Jan 19 11:57:17 2020
    As a Fidonet newbie, one thing I've yet to master is FREQing files. Also, as someone trying to enforce a self-imposed exile from the internet, FREQing suddenly seems very cool and useful.

    Is this still something which is done? I sort of know the answer to this one - because I can see the file league tables in (the excellent) Fidogazette.

    But they seem to be weather charts, on the whole. Is it possible to FREQ a list
    of files for another BBS and request anything there? I have read something about Magic Names, for this purpose I believe, but would like to know if this system is still operational.

    The BBS I call doesn't have extensive files for my OS of choice (ok, none). Is it possible for me to FREQ a file list from another BBS, and then specific files off that board?

    Thanks!
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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Simon Geddes on Sun Jan 19 13:53:56 2020
    Hello Simon,

    As a Fidonet newbie, one thing I've yet to master is FREQing files.
    Also, as someone trying to enforce a self-imposed exile from the
    internet, FREQing suddenly seems very cool and useful.

    FREQing files has always been cool and usefull.. :)

    Is this still something which is done? I sort of know the answer to
    this one - because I can see the file league tables in (the excellent) Fidogazette.

    Back in the dial-up days file requesting was easy to setup in mailers like BinkleyTerm and FrontDoor, and also other mailer available at the time.

    That's not always the case today with binkp mailers. It can be done with binkd but a third party SRIF utility will be needed to be installed and setup.

    But they seem to be weather charts, on the whole. Is it possible to
    FREQ a list of files for another BBS and request anything there? I
    have read something about Magic Names, for this purpose I believe, but would like to know if this system is still operational.

    In some cases, yes. The software I run currently doesn't have an all files list, something we should work on.

    The BBS I call doesn't have extensive files for my OS of choice (ok, none). Is it possible for me to FREQ a file list from another BBS, and then specific files off that board?

    If you read the FIDO-REQ, ALLFIX_FILE, or FDN_ANNOUNCE areas, nodes posting those new files likely do support file requests and magic names. Try freqing FILES from one of those BBSs and probably you will get an all files list. :)

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Simon Geddes@1:103/705 to Alan Ianson on Mon Jan 20 13:20:06 2020
    Re: FREQing
    By: Alan Ianson to Simon Geddes on Sun Jan 19 2020 01:53 pm

    Back in the dial-up days file requesting was easy to setup in mailers like
    BinkleyTerm
    and FrontDoor, and also other mailer available at the time.

    I have something called TrapDoor for the Amiga. Have only scanned the instructions, but I see it allows you to set yourself up as a Point, or to use it to handle the fido traffic to a BBS. This might be the thing I need then.

    If you read the FIDO-REQ, ALLFIX_FILE, or FDN_ANNOUNCE areas, nodes posting
    those new
    files likely do support file requests and magic names. Try freqing FILES
    from one of
    those BBSs and probably you will get an all files list. :)

    Brilliant, will give that a go. Exciting indeed! :)
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  • From Rob Swindell@1:103/705 to Simon Geddes on Wed Jan 22 15:46:13 2020
    Re: FREQing
    By: Simon Geddes to Alan Ianson on Mon Jan 20 2020 01:20 pm

    Re: FREQing
    By: Alan Ianson to Simon Geddes on Sun Jan 19 2020 01:53 pm

    Back in the dial-up days file requesting was easy to setup in mailers like BinkleyTerm and FrontDoor, and also other mailer available at the time.

    I have something called TrapDoor for the Amiga. Have only scanned the instructions, but I see it allows you to set yourself up as a Point, or to use it to handle the fido traffic to a BBS. This might be the thing I need then.

    If you read the FIDO-REQ, ALLFIX_FILE, or FDN_ANNOUNCE areas, nodes posting those new files likely do support file requests and magic names. Try freqing FILES from one of those BBSs and probably you will get an all files list. :)

    Brilliant, will give that a go. Exciting indeed! :)

    Since you're posting from Vertrauen (my BBS), I thought I'd like you know that you can send file request (FREQ) netmail messages from Vertrauen by creating a netmail message to the file request process at the hub you choose and placing "FR:<filename>" in the subject of the message. The "FR:" means file request and
    the <filename> must be replaced with the filename (or magic name) you are requesting. After sending a FREQ netmail, you should later get a response from the file request processor at the node you sent the message too, possibly with your requested file attached and ready for you to download from the BBS (Vertrauen), e.g. using ZModem.

    digital man

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Rob Swindell on Thu Jan 23 17:35:11 2020
    On 22/01/2020 6:46 p.m., Rob Swindell : Simon Geddes wrote:

    ..you can send file request (FREQ) netmail messages
    from Vertrauen by creating a netmail message to the file request
    process at the hub you choose and placing "FR: <filename>" in
    the subject of the message.

    Very interesting. When did you implement that at your system?

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  • From Rob Swindell@1:103/705 to August Abolins on Thu Jan 23 10:35:09 2020
    Re: FREQing
    By: August Abolins to Rob Swindell on Thu Jan 23 2020 05:35 pm

    On 22/01/2020 6:46 p.m., Rob Swindell : Simon Geddes wrote:

    ..you can send file request (FREQ) netmail messages
    from Vertrauen by creating a netmail message to the file request process at the hub you choose and placing "FR: <filename>" in
    the subject of the message.

    Very interesting. When did you implement that at your system?

    Likely 1992 or 1993. The user does require a special exemption (the 'F' exemption) to enable this option, but your user account on Vertrauen now has it. :-)

    digital man

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  • From Simon Geddes@1:103/705 to Rob Swindell on Sun Jan 26 15:38:00 2020
    At 3:46 PM on 22 Jan 20, Rob Swindell said to Simon Geddes:

    Since you're posting from Vertrauen (my BBS), I thought I'd like you
    know that you can send file request (FREQ) netmail messages from
    Vertrauen by creating a netmail message to the file request process at
    the hub you choose and placing "FR:<filename>" in the subject of the message. The "FR:" means file request and the <filename> must be
    replaced with the filename (or magic name) you are requesting. After sending a FREQ netmail, you should later get a response from the file request processor at the node you sent the message too, possibly with
    your requested file attached and ready for you to download from the BBS (Vertrauen), e.g. using ZModem.

    Firstly, thank you for your reply. And providing such a super BBS!

    Some of the terms here I don't fully understand - so rather than asking lots
    of newbie questions, this is my signal to go back to my fido docs and gen up
    a bit, before coming back to this advice and giving it a go.


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