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Quote of The Day
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In Private, Republicans Admit They Acquitted Trump Out of Fear
One journalist remarked to me, "How in the world can these
senators walk around here upright when they have no backbone?"
By Sherrod Brown
[https://tinyurl.com/sqt9kxu]

FIDOGAZETTE Vol 14 No 06 Page 2 February 5th, 2020


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Janis Kracht wrote to All <=-

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Quote of The Day ================================================================

In Private, Republicans Admit They Acquitted Trump Out of
Fear
One journalist remarked to me, "How in the world can these
senators walk around here upright when they have no
backbone?"
By Sherrod Brown
[https://tinyurl.com/sqt9kxu]

Is that kind of political crap really necessary? Do you want to
turn this into the same kind of sewer that is FIDONEWS?



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Janis Kracht wrote to All <=-

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Quote of The Day
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In Private, Republicans Admit They Acquitted Trump Out of
Fear
One journalist remarked to me, "How in the world can these
senators walk around here upright when they have no
backbone?"
By Sherrod Brown
[https://tinyurl.com/sqt9kxu]

Is that kind of political crap really necessary? Do you want to
turn this into the same kind of sewer that is FIDONEWS?

Yes, it is necessary...

Too bad you won't stand up to that bully.

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Yes, it is necessary...

So while you tell everyone else "no politics" in here in the echo rules, you take carte blanche for spouting yours? I thought you were above being hypocritical.

Too bad you won't stand up to that bully.

You're using your position as editor as a bully pulpit. In this scope, that makes you no better than what you're accusing Trump of.

As we all know, opinions are like assholes: everyone's got one; some are bigger
than others and they all stink.

Just my opinion, of course. Nugas garris and all that. ;)

Later,
Sean
FidoGazette founder and editor emeritus

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Janis Kracht wrote to Dan Clough <=-

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Quote of The Day
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In Private, Republicans Admit They Acquitted Trump Out of
Fear
One journalist remarked to me, "How in the world can these
senators walk around here upright when they have no
backbone?"
By Sherrod Brown
[https://tinyurl.com/sqt9kxu]

Is that kind of political crap really necessary? Do you want to
turn this into the same kind of sewer that is FIDONEWS?

Yes, it is necessary...

Why? What does it accomplish, besides stirring up crap in an echo
which doesn't need politics in it? You think you're gonna change
Trump (or anyone else) with this bullshit?

Politics is just about everywhere else. Can't we have an echo
that doesn't have it?

Too bad you won't stand up to that bully.

Ahhh, Okay, I get it. You're a snowflake and need a safe space.

Take your Gazette, your echo, and your vile libtard attitude and
shove them up your ass.


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Too bad you won't stand up to that bully.

You're using your position as editor as a bully pulpit. In this scope, that makes you no better than what you're accusing Trump of.

That is your opinion to keep if you want to.

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In Private, Republicans Admit They Acquitted Trump Out of
Fear
One journalist remarked to me, "How in the world can these
senators walk around here upright when they have no
backbone?"
By Sherrod Brown
[https://tinyurl.com/sqt9kxu]

Is that kind of political crap really necessary? Do you want to
turn this into the same kind of sewer that is FIDONEWS?

good one. ah, crap. this was no joke, you mean that seriously ...?!

WhAT aBout STFU for a while and reflect on your own behaviour?

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Too bad you won't stand up to that bully.

Ahhh, Okay, I get it. You're a snowflake and need a safe space.

Take your Gazette, your echo, and your vile libtard attitude and
shove them up your ass.

everything shoved up our asses. is this settled then?

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On 06 Feb 2020 at 08:44p, Dan Clough pondered and said...

Ahhh, Okay, I get it. You're a snowflake and need a safe space.

...says the guy who just about flipped out about someone
criticizing someone he'll never meet, doesn't know, and
isn't related to.

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On 06 Feb 20 18:41:30, Janis Kracht said the following to Dan Clough:

Yes, it is necessary...

Too bad you won't stand up to that bully.

Sounds a lot like Bjorn trotting out that same spacious logic when George W. Bush was president. And to paraphrase Ross Cassell:

In a network with less than a handful of active participants, how will some post in some silly network in some silly e-zine that hardly anyone reads count as standing up to the bully? What exactly do you want your fellow Fido Sysops to do about it?

Nick

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In Private, Republicans Admit They Acquitted Trump Out of
Fear
One journalist remarked to me, "How in the world can these
senators walk around here upright when they have no
backbone?"
By Sherrod Brown
[https://tinyurl.com/sqt9kxu]

Is that kind of political crap really necessary? Do you want to
turn this into the same kind of sewer that is FIDONEWS?
Yes, it is necessary...

Why? What does it accomplish, besides stirring up crap in an echo
which doesn't need politics in it? You think you're gonna change
Trump (or anyone else) with this bullshit?

Why bitch? I posted an article that I felt was important for my repub. friends
to consider and I've done this _many_ times in the 'gazette - don't read the back issues, you probably don't have the stamina for that.

Politics is just about everywhere else. Can't we have an echo
that doesn't have it?

Too bad you won't stand up to that bully.

Ahhh, Okay, I get it. You're a snowflake and need a safe space.

Take your Gazette, your echo, and your vile libtard attitude and
shove them up your ass.

And you call me vile...

Take care,
Janis

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Hi Oli,

One journalist remarked to me, "How in the world can these
senators walk around here upright when they have no
backbone?"
By Sherrod Brown
[https://tinyurl.com/sqt9kxu]

Is that kind of political crap really necessary? Do you want to
turn this into the same kind of sewer that is FIDONEWS?

good one. ah, crap. this was no joke, you mean that seriously ...?!

Sadly there are small number of true-believers of "the orange one" in the U.S.A. A number of them cannot take it when I draw attention to articles in the news like this one. I could be wrong, but I believe that Mr. Trump is a vindictive individual.

WhAT aBout STFU for a while and reflect on your own behaviour?

That would require thought on his part I believe.

Take care,
Janis

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Hi Nick,

Yes, it is necessary...

Too bad you won't stand up to that bully.

Sounds a lot like Bjorn trotting out that same spacious logic when George W. Bush was president. And to paraphrase Ross Cassell:

Ross and I have always been on the opposite spectrum of political views regarding politics in the U.S.A. and yet we have remained friends. It's called
respect for an individual's beliefs.

...What exactly do you want your fellow Fido Sysops
to do about it?

Read the articles.

Take care,
Janis

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On 07 Feb 20 13:41:36, Janis Kracht said the following to Nick Andre:

Ross and I have always been on the opposite spectrum of political views regarding politics in the U.S.A. and yet we have remained friends. It's called respect for an individual's beliefs.

It "cheapens" your 'zine when you involve American politics, just like how Bjorn has cheapened Fidonews for decades with his anti-American rantings. You two actually have a lot in common with the way you like to play games.

I can't really do anything about that, but perhaps you could also add a disclaimer to your "Zone 1 blog" that links off the official fidonet.org
domain regarding the American political news that has absolutely nothing to
do with Fidonet... nor does it represent the views of all Zone 1 Sysops.

Or shall your links be removed entirely?

Nick

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Hi Nick,

It "cheapens" your 'zine when you involve American politics, just like how Bjorn has cheapened Fidonews for decades with his anti-American rantings. You two actually have a lot in common with the way you like to play games.

That's a funny comment but ok...I don't see it the same way you do, that is apparent.. I'll have to ask my brother, he's a Canadian citizen... maybe "you guys" think different than us here "down-er under". He's lived there since he was about 18... he's 67 now.

I quoted an article with no comment.. and yet the maggots collected.

Bjorn and I have had our differences... but we've also had good discussions as well.

I can't really do anything about that,

True.

but perhaps you could also add a
disclaimer to your "Zone 1 blog" that links off the official fidonet.org domain regarding the American political news that has absolutely nothing to do with Fidonet... nor does it represent the views of all Zone 1 Sysops.

My blog is my "MY" blog. It is not an "official fidonet blog" you silly man, but somehow I think you know this already. It is there to help people find things. In the drudge of life, I do entertain funny links like "Cheeto Christ"
because, once again, people need to THINK... certainly about Trump.

You, I know do NOT want to think. It's ok, you like being safe where you live.

Or shall your links be removed entirely?

Do what you will but know that we all see exactly what is going on here..

I guess that is my purpose in life these days... the gadfly.. fine by me.

Take care,
Janis

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On 07 Feb 20 22:50:14, Janis Kracht said the following to Nick Andre:

apparent.. I'll have to ask my brother, he's a Canadian citizen... maybe "y guys" think different than us here "down-er under". He's lived there since was about 18... he's 67 now.

Janis, this is very simple.

When someone is interested in Fidonet, and looks at Zone 1 pages that are
there now, and sees a "Zone 1 Blog", it is assumed that the blog is related to Fidonet. Stuff about Fido software, operation, etc. But American politics???

What, exactly, does the Mueller report have to do with *Fidonet*. What do democrat candidates have to do with *Fidonet*. What does your use of Fidogazette to promote your political view have anything to do with *Fidonet*

Thats why I want your "Zone 1 blog" GONE or renamed to something OTHER than "Zone 1 blog". American political blogs promote *politics*. American politics do nothing to promote *Fidonet* or have ANYTHING to do with *Fidonet*

Either you clean up your site ASAP so it promotes FIDONET and NOT American politics on your "Zone 1 blog", or I will make the necessary corrections!

Nick

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Either you clean up your site ASAP so it promotes FIDONET and NOT American politics on your "Zone 1 blog", or I will make the necessary corrections!

It would be good to know which hat you are wearing when you are making 'or else
...' threats

You are sure this will not backfire?

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On 08 Feb 20 18:16:01, Oli said the following to Nick Andre:

Either you clean up your site ASAP so it promotes FIDONET and NOT Ameri politics on your "Zone 1 blog", or I will make the necessary correction

It would be good to know which hat you are wearing when you are making 'or else ...' threats

You are sure this will not backfire?

Nope, pretty sure.

Nick

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I quoted an article with no comment.. and yet the maggots collected.

That is true, and it has been "the news" in the USA for sure lately. If
you post links to other hot topic news items in past issues, this is really
not that different.

Mike


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Hi Mike,

I quoted an article with no comment.. and yet the maggots collected.

That is true, and it has been "the news" in the USA for sure lately. If
you post links to other hot topic news items in past issues, this is really not that different.

True on both accounts IMO.

Take care,
Janis

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You are right Nick, it is very simple. Please build your own pages, host them on your site, have Ward change the link and it's all done.

Thanks,
Janis

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Hello Janis!

** 07.02.20 - 13:28, Janis Kracht wrote to Oli:

..I could be wrong, but I believe that Mr. Trump
is a vindictive individual.

vinúdicútive
/ven'diktiv/

adjective

having or showing a strong or unreasoning desire for revenge.

What "revenge" has he commited?

I would say that he has very good reason to be angry, but to label him vindictive would not be the right word. ;)

The "other side" is not so pure and white either.

Check out the new book:

Profiles in Corruption: Abuse of Power.. | Hardcover
- | Peter Schweizer

https://tinyurl.com/vp6r4a7


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On 02-08-20 22:25, August Abolins <=-
spoke to Janis Kracht about Mr T <=-

I would say that he has very good reason to be angry, but to label him vindictive would not be the right word. ;)

Responded to in the all-politics echo where such discussion belongs.

Dale Shipp
fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
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On 08 Feb 20 20:59:42, Janis Kracht said the following to Nick Andre:

You are right Nick, it is very simple. Please build your own pages, host t on your site, have Ward change the link and it's all done.

Done. In progress.

Nick

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On 02-08-20 22:25, August Abolins <=-
spoke to Janis Kracht about Mr T <=-

I would say that he has very good reason to be angry, but to label him
vindictive would not be the right word. ;)

Responded to in the all-politics echo where such discussion belongs.

Thanks Dale, I saw your reply in ALL-POLITICS and it is exactly what I was referring to.

Take care,
Janis

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So while you tell everyone else "no politics" in here in the echo rules, you SD>take carte blanche for spouting yours? I thought you were above being SD>hypocritical.

It was a hard lesson for me to learn, but Daniel 2:21 says that "The
Lord sets up kings, and He removes kings". To me, that's anyone in a
position of authority, from the president/head of state, on down to the
lowly janitor cleaning the toilets.

They are in there by God's Direct or Permissive Will...whether mankind
likes it or not. Until the Divinely Ordained Time arrives for that
person to be out of power, there is NOTHING their enemies can do about
it. But, once that time does arrive, there iS NOTHING that person or
their cronies can do to stop it.

I was not happy at all when Obama was in there...and what I learned
the hard way was that the "God put him there". That is the ONLY reason I
accept that certain individuals are in power.

It was like the Jewish Sanhedrin member Gamaliel told his
associates..."If this (Christianity) be of man, it will come to nothing.
But, if it be of God, you can not stop it".

Daryl


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They are in there by God's Direct or Permissive Will...whether mankind
likes it or not.

That's a bit depressing :)

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09 Feb 20 02:29, you wrote to Janis Kracht:

On 08 Feb 20 20:59:42, Janis Kracht said the following to Nick Andre:

You are right Nick, it is very simple. Please build your own pages, host

t

on your site, have Ward change the link and it's all done.

Done. In progress.

After days (and nights) of hard work by the *Clowns they managed to scrub any piece of useful infomation from www.z1.fidonet.org and replaced it with a "403 Forbidden" error. Let it be a lesson to everyone that links to links to anti-Trump propaganda are not tolerated by the merciless *Clowns of Fidonet. Draconian measures will be taken to please their followers ...

May I suggest to use the 451 code for the http response? Or is the 403 just sheer incompetence?

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On 12 Feb 20 10:55:49, Oli said the following to Nick Andre:

Done. In progress.

After days (and nights) of hard work by the *Clowns they managed to scrub an piece of useful infomation from www.z1.fidonet.org and replaced it with a "4

LOL.

Its amusing to me that after a long period of playful tame banter between myself and Wilfred van Velzen, all of the sudden that "stopped" one day, and "Oli" made his grand debut. Its like some sort of weird homage to the split personality of Lee/Bjorn. Your recent kludge-douchebaggery in the BinkD echo has the tell-tale signs written alllllllllll over it.

Before you expose your cluelessness further, the fidonet.org server system is not hosted or ran by any ZC and has its history of problems, more serious ones than your douchebaggery trolling games.

To have one simple page or DNS entry changed on that system is not a straightforward task one would think. In fact its impressive that even *something* can be updated on that Rube Goldberg contraption that masquerades as a Linux system. Here with go again with Linux, the "advanced OS" thats so advanced, not even the server sysadmin can easily make *one change* to it.

Anyhow, I am in a position to wave my magical wizard wand and have the NS records point to my own DNS at any time. And in doing so... I would
potentially upset the MX and DNS for Region 50 and possibly others.

I normally don't mind a good fight but I'm not being paid enough by you or others to fight a region of Russians who've come to depend on Fidonet as something of importance to them in the Putin regime.

Since no ZC has direct access to the current underlining DNS, it would be difficult to clone the DNS. No ZC is being paid enough to take that on.

And who recently ate the cost of renewing the fidonet.org domain? Whoes credit card paid the bill? Or should the domain expire and go to a squatter instead?

Was the Zone 1 anti-Trump site a mission-critical website that must be up
24/7? What happens when you visit www.fidonet.org and click Zone 1?

What exactly have you contributed to Fidonet, other than anal vapor?

Nick

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What exactly have you contributed to Fidonet, other than anal vapor?

Really Nick?

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On 12 Feb 20 13:52:22, Janis Kracht said the following to Nick Andre:

What exactly have you contributed to Fidonet, other than anal vapor?

Really Nick?

Its a simple question for "Oli". If someone is going to call me a name or attempt to troll me, then I respond accordingly.

And I never need to hide behind an alias or point address when I do so.

Nick

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On 12 Feb 20 13:52:22, Janis Kracht said the following to Nick Andre:

What exactly have you contributed to Fidonet, other than anal vapor?

Really Nick?

Its a simple question for "Oli". If someone is going to call me a name or attempt to troll me, then I respond accordingly.

I dunno... reminds me of the famous saying, "he who smelt it dealt it.."

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On 12 Feb 20 16:29:24, Janis Kracht said the following to Nick Andre:

What exactly have you contributed to Fidonet, other than anal vapor?

Really Nick?

Its a simple question for "Oli". If someone is going to call me a name or attempt to troll me, then I respond accordingly.

I dunno... reminds me of the famous saying, "he who smelt it dealt it.."

I'm proud of my farts and don't need to hide behind aliases or fake addresses.

Nick

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Hi Nick,

I dunno... reminds me of the famous saying, "he who smelt it dealt it.."

I'm proud of my farts

They are known to liked by the farter.

And now, please take this discussion to one of your echos where you can fart to
your hearts content :) As you must know, you stink a bit.

Take care,
Janis

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They are in there by God's Direct or Permissive Will...whether mankind JK>> likes it or not.

That's a bit depressing :)

King Herod (or his ancestor) during Jesus' day was certainly no "model ruler".

There was a poltical race in the state...a runoff race...and it ended
up in a TIE. They say they have to wait on overseas and absentee
ballots. I have to wonder if they're going to flip a coin, or a have a
gunfight for the winner. I better stop now, before I get in trouble. :P

Daryl


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Hi Daryl,

They are in there by God's Direct or Permissive Will...whether mankind
likes it or not.

That's a bit depressing :)

King Herod (or his ancestor) during Jesus' day was certainly no "model ruler".

No he wasn't if one has read the bible :(

There was a poltical race in the state...a runoff race...and it ended
up in a TIE. They say they have to wait on overseas and absentee
ballots. I have to wonder if they're going to flip a coin, or a have a gunfight for the winner. I better stop now, before I get in trouble. :P

"Jesus Christ Superstar Live!" which played on NBC on April 1, 2018 had my favorite version King Herod, played by Alice Cooper. I always found Alice Cooper distasteful, but what a great job he did as Herod :)

Did you get to see that perfomance on television?

Take care,
Janis

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Hi Daryl,

They are in there by God's Direct or Permissive Will...whether mankind
likes it or not.

That's a bit depressing :)

King Herod (or his ancestor) during Jesus' day was certainly no "model ruler".

No he wasn't if one has read the bible :(

There was a poltical race in the state...a runoff race...and it ended
up in a TIE. They say they have to wait on overseas and absentee
ballots. I have to wonder if they're going to flip a coin, or a have a gunfight for the winner. I better stop now, before I get in trouble. :P

"Jesus Christ Superstar Live!" which played on NBC on April 1, 2018 had my favorite version of King Herod, played by Alice Cooper. I always found Alice Cooper kind of distasteful, but what a great job he did as Herod :)

Did you get to see that perfomance on television?

Take care,
Janis

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Hi Nick.

12 Feb 20 15:58:36, you wrote to Janis Kracht:

And I never need to hide behind an alias or point address when I do so.

But you are using a nick name.

'Tommi

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On 13 Feb 20 19:43:04, Tommi Koivula said the following to Nick Andre:

And I never need to hide behind an alias or point address when I do so

But you are using a nick name.

My "Nick" name is real 8-)

Nick

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Janis,

King Herod (or his ancestor) during Jesus' day was certainly no "model JK>> ruler".

No he wasn't if one has read the bible :(

Considering his ancestor had all the male babies under 2 years old killed...then he mocking Jesus before sending Him to Pilate, who
acquitted Jesus 4 times. But, 18 Jewish laws were broken to railroad
Jesus to His Death.

"Jesus Christ Superstar Live!" which played on NBC on April 1, 2018 had my JK>favorite version King Herod, played by Alice Cooper. I always found Alice JK>Cooper distasteful, but what a great job he did as Herod :)

The line I remember (besides Mary's song "I Don't Know How To Love
Him"), was with Herod singing "So, you're the great Jesus Christ?? Prove
to me that you're no fool...walk across my swimming pool!!" :P

Did you get to see that perfomance on television?

No, I did not. I just have high speed internet here...no TV.

Daryl


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No, I did not. I just have high speed internet here...no TV.

I saw it on Broadway in 1972 ... the original thing.

\%/@rd

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Hi Ward,

No, I did not. I just have high speed internet here...no TV.

I saw it on Broadway in 1972 ... the original thing.

Alice Cooper playing King Herod in the TV version I mentioned was SO much better than even the original broadway version :)

If you can stand seeing the thing again just to see his Herod, it was great :)

Take care,
Janis

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Hi Ward,

I saw it on Broadway in 1972 ... the original thing.

Here's a link to the TV version I mentioned, it's a just a touch different from
the broadway version... and the stars in it are incredible: (John Legend, Sarah
Barellis<sp>, Alice Cooper and others whose names I can't remember at the moment :) ) Alice Cooper and John Legend really made the production so incredible.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x774czh

Take care,
Janis

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Ward,

I saw it on Broadway in 1972 ... the original thing.

Never saw a show on Broadway...the last show I saw in Little Rock was
"A Chorus Line".

One time, at "The Rep" (formerly the Arkansas Repertory Theatre),
there was "An Evening With Groucho". Then, in Branson, Missouri, I saw
"An Evening With Red Skelton".

In each case, the performer was the only one licensed by the late
comedian's estate to do the stuff, and you thought the actor had come
back from the dead!!

Daryl


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Daryl.

I saw it on Broadway in 1972 ... the original thing.

Never saw a show on Broadway...the last show I saw in Little Rock was
"A Chorus Line".

The Broqdway and WestEnd (London UK) shows are so good and well staged it is worth it just to go there and watch. We've been to London often already and every time I pass through NYC I go watch something.

Too bad that Disney is now also moving-in there ..

\%/@rd

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Hello Janis!

Here's a link to the TV version I mentioned, it's a just a touch different
from the broadway version... and the stars in it are incredible: (John
Legend, Sarah Barellis<sp>, Alice Cooper and others whose names I can't
remember at the moment :) ) Alice Cooper and John Legend really made the
production so incredible.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x774czh

Thanks for pointing that one out.

I had a look. I liked the use of multiple cameras following the actors on stage. Cooper had a small roll but it was well cast for him. The
microphone pickups were not the best for everyone. But visually, it was
an amazing setting.


../|ug

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Hi August,

Here's a link to the TV version I mentioned, it's a just a touch different >> from the broadway version... and the stars in it are incredible: (John
Legend, Sarah Barellis<sp>, Alice Cooper and others whose names I can't
remember at the moment :) ) Alice Cooper and John Legend really made the
production so incredible.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x774czh

Thanks for pointing that one out.

Very welcome :)

I had a look. I liked the use of multiple cameras following the actors on stage. Cooper had a small roll but it was well cast for him.

It sure was.

The
microphone pickups were not the best for everyone.

True.

But visually, it was
an amazing setting.

Yes, also true. I really enjoyed hearing Jin Ha who played Annas. Exceptional voice.

Take care,
Janis

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Hi Sean,

I've been reading about your foot in the cooking echo, and that really sounds serious. First off, I hope you do ok with that.

Not to drag this on, but you said:

So while you tell everyone else "no politics" in here in the echo rules, you >>take carte blanche for spouting yours?

The rules of the echo are talking about Fidonet politics, not "politics" in general.

I'll make that clear in an updated version of the rules.

Take care,
Janis

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Janis Kracht wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

Not to drag this on, but you said:

So while you tell everyone else "no politics" in here in the echo rules, you
take carte blanche for spouting yours?

The rules of the echo are talking about Fidonet politics, not
"politics" in general.

I'll make that clear in an updated version of the rules.

Hopefully you'll make it clear that neither kind of politics is
acceptable in here (or in the Gazette).

It's virtually everywhere else. Wouldn't it be nice to have a
place where it *ISN'T* constantly in our faces?

Yep. It sure would.


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Hello Janis!

** 16.02.20 - 19:18, Janis Kracht wrote to August Abolins:

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x774czh

Thanks for pointing that one out.

Very welcome :)

I realized that I never saw the 1973 film before this (I was only starting high-school at that time). After watching the film (today) I see that the Live version tried to stay true to the original very well. The audio in
the film version was much better too; I could actually make out the words. The live 2018 version had me worried that I was going deaf.


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On 02-08-20, JANIS KRACHT said to NICK ANDRE:

You are right Nick, it is ve

SNIP!!!


A `political message was cross-posted from this echo into a `politics' echo.


So....at last....this echo is open to `political' discussion....right?!


Great! I've got some lists of `Trump' accomplishments I'm putting together,
and will post them up in here forthwith!


Stay tuned!


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So....at last....this echo is open to `political' discussion....right?!

Only libtard discussions are allowed here.

Sorry to disappoint!

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Janis Kracht wrote to TIM RICHARDSON <=-

So....at last....this echo is open to `political' discussion....right?!

Only libtard discussions are allowed here.
Sorry to disappoint!

Well, Libtards are going to be *QUITE* disappointed come November.

"Heads exploding" levels of disappointment.



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On 23 Feb 20 08:53:00, Dan Clough said the following to Janis Kracht:

Only libtard discussions are allowed here.
Sorry to disappoint!

Well, Libtards are going to be *QUITE* disappointed come November.

For a party that claims progressive "diversity" and "inclusion", they sure do their best to appoint old cranky millionaire/billionaire rich white guys.

Nick

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Well, Libtards are going to be *QUITE* disappointed come November.

"Heads exploding" levels of disappointment.

Be careful... the last election, the side that had the biggest heads about
it being a sure thing were the ones that went through all of the stages of grief (some rather publicly) between 6PM ET election night and the next morning.


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Janis Kracht wrote to TIM RICHARDSON <=-

So....at last....this echo is open to `political' discussion....right?!

Only libtard discussions are allowed here.
Sorry to disappoint!

Well, Libtards are going to be *QUITE* disappointed come November.

"Heads exploding" levels of disappointment.

I think that is quite an exaggeration, Dan. Yes, I expect Trump will win again, but not because he deserves to or because he is some 'master politician'. If he wins again it will be because typically elections for people already office are generally reelected. I've always said this, and for instance long ago when Ross Cassell contacted me, fearful that he would lose a relection for Regional Coordinator, I told him not to worry... he would be relected no problem. And he was.

So if Trump is reelected, it will be at no level of surprise, no heads exploding, and we will just have to work harder to displace those in our house and senate who are republican.

Then again, I could be completely wrong, and the groundswell of responsible people will kick the bum out. :)

Take care,
Janis

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Janis Kracht wrote to Dan Clough <=-

Janis Kracht wrote to TIM RICHARDSON <=-

So....at last....this echo is open to `political' discussion....right?!

Only libtard discussions are allowed here.
Sorry to disappoint!

Well, Libtards are going to be *QUITE* disappointed come November.
"Heads exploding" levels of disappointment.

I think that is quite an exaggeration, Dan. Yes, I expect Trump
will win again, but not because he deserves to or because he is
some 'master politician'. If he wins again it will be because
typically elections for people already office are generally
reelected. I've always said this, and for instance long ago when
Ross Cassell contacted me, fearful that he would lose a relection
for Regional Coordinator, I told him not to worry... he would be
relected no problem. And he was.

'Tis true, that. Incumbents usually are re-elected.

So if Trump is reelected, it will be at no level of surprise, no
heads exploding, and we will just have to work harder to displace
those in our house and senate who are republican.

OK well that's good - I really don't want anyone's head to
explode. But I'm sure there will be some. Sounds like you won't
be among them, but if you'll recall, there were a LOT of people
who pretty much melted down when he was elected last time. Those
people may not survive a repeat performance.

Then again, I could be completely wrong, and the groundswell of responsible people will kick the bum out. :)

Honestly, and as a Republican, I say this: The best thing going
for Trump are the opposition candidates... No, really. America
is not ready to elect a Socialist or an old washed up has-been who
shows signs of dementia setting in. The other candidates have
nearly a zero chance of going a day past Super Tuesday. So if the
Dems put up Crazy Bernie or Creepy Joe, it's all over.

Take care,
Janis

You too!
Dan



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Dan,

Well, Libtards are going to be *QUITE* disappointed come November.

Whoever wins, whether it's the presidency, seats in Congress, or in
another position of authority, they will do so ONLY because The Lord
God, Soverign over all of His Creation, either directed or allowed it.
As it notes in Daniel 2:21 "The Lord Sets Up Kings, and He Removes
Kings".

That was a bitter pill for me to swallow...especially when Obama was
in power...but they are in there for a reason...either as a blessing or
a judgment. Basically, if The Lord God's Will is for Trump to be
re-elected, he will be. If not, he won't be...it's as simple as that.
His Ways are NOT our ways.

And, for those who scream "violation of the separation of church and
state", the TRUE meaning of that is that "the Church doesn't run the Government...and the Government doesn't run the Church". Those who want "Freedom From Religion" will get their wish granted one day...and they
won't like the results of it.

Daryl


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Mike,

Be careful... the last election, the side that had the biggest heads about MP>it being a sure thing were the ones that went through all of the stages of MP>grief (some rather publicly) between 6PM ET election night and the next MP>morning.

I understand that Hillary Clinton, in her hotel suite, went into
"a demonic rage", throwing things around, as a child having a temper
tantrum, when it became clear she was losing...and that they had to call
hotel security to forcibly restrain her.

Then, she didn't have the courage to come down before her supporters,
to tell them that she had lost. Yet, you didn't hear a peep about this
from the mainstream media.

Just like a sports game, the losing side is obviously
disappointed...but in this life, someone has to win, and someone has to
lose.

Daryl


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Then, she didn't have the courage to come down before her supporters,
to tell them that she had lost. Yet, you didn't hear a peep about this
from the mainstream media.

She did concede to Trump at some point over that night. I would have
assumed she addressed her supporters also.


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Then again, I could be completely wrong, and the groundswell of
responsible people will kick the bum out. :)

Honestly, and as a Republican, I say this: The best thing going
for Trump are the opposition candidates... No, really. America
is not ready to elect a Socialist or an old washed up has-been who
shows signs of dementia setting in. The other candidates have
nearly a zero chance of going a day past Super Tuesday. So if the
Dems put up Crazy Bernie or Creepy Joe, it's all over.

First you complain about politics in Fidogazette (followed by a swift response of the Clown) and then you are trying to turn this echo in the same shithole as
Fidonews. Well done ...

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Oli wrote to Dan Clough <=-

First you complain about politics in Fidogazette (followed by a
swift response of the Clown) and then you are trying to turn this
echo in the same shithole as Fidonews. Well done ...

Real names are required in Fidonet echos. Go away, troll.


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Oli wrote to Dan Clough <=-

First you complain about politics in Fidogazette (followed by a
swift response of the Clown) and then you are trying to turn this
echo in the same shithole as Fidonews. Well done ...

Real names are required in Fidonet echos. Go away, troll.

You are not the moderator of this echo.

You are wrong, btw, it is up to the moderator of the echo to decide if real names are used in a particular echo.

Stop now, or you will be asked to leave.

Thanks,
Janis

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Then again, I could be completely wrong, and the groundswell of
responsible people will kick the bum out. :)

Honestly, and as a Republican, I say this: The best thing going
for Trump are the opposition candidates... No, really. America
is not ready to elect a Socialist or an old washed up has-been who
shows signs of dementia setting in. The other candidates have
nearly a zero chance of going a day past Super Tuesday. So if the
Dems put up Crazy Bernie or Creepy Joe, it's all over.

First you complain about politics in Fidogazette (followed by a swift response >of the Clown) and then you are trying to turn this echo in the same shithole a
Fidonews. Well done ...

That's what it feels like to me as well, Oli.

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Janis Kracht wrote to Dan Clough <=-

Real names are required in Fidonet echos. Go away, troll.

You are not the moderator of this echo.

You are wrong, btw, it is up to the moderator of the echo to
decide if real names are used in a particular echo.

Could you please point out where a copy of the echo rules can be
downloaded? I've seen a zip of a rules file in the ELIST FDN, but
only a very few echos are shown in there. Thanks.


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Janis Kracht wrote to Oli <=-

Then again, I could be completely wrong, and the groundswell of
responsible people will kick the bum out. :)

Honestly, and as a Republican, I say this: The best thing going
for Trump are the opposition candidates... No, really. America
is not ready to elect a Socialist or an old washed up has-been who
shows signs of dementia setting in. The other candidates have
nearly a zero chance of going a day past Super Tuesday. So if the
Dems put up Crazy Bernie or Creepy Joe, it's all over.

First you complain about politics in Fidogazette (followed by a swift response
of the Clown) and then you are trying to turn this echo in the same shithole a
Fidonews. Well done ...

That's what it feels like to me as well, Oli.

So, "Oli" calls you a Clown, but you're perfectly happy to agree
with him, because he's a fellow "Lefty", eh?

Just one reminder - it was you who started bringing up politics in
here in the first place...



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On 02-22-20, JANIS KRACHT said to TIM RICHARDSON:

So....at last....this echo is open to `political' discussion....right?!

Only libtard discussions are allowed here.

Sorry to disappoint!

And there's no bigger `libtard' than you!


Not disappointed at all.


BTW....thanks for the new tagline!


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And there's no bigger `libtard' than you!

Perhaps... but I think the me and the other libtards are going to elect Bernie.

Now after I save this message, I'm going to delete yours. It's the easiest way
to deal you nincompoops :) I have a program I wrote years ago to streamline this kind of thing... think I'll dig it up.

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On 29/02/2020 12:04 a.m., Janis Kracht wrote:

...I think the me and the other libtards are going to
elect Bernie.

Check out this book:

Profiles in Corruption: Abuse of Power by America's Progressive Elite -
Peter Schweizer

"In Profiles in Corruption, Schweizer offers a deep-dive investigation
into the private finances, and secrets deals of some of America’s top political leaders."

"Learn about how they are making sweetheart deals, generating side
income, bending the law to their own benefits, using legislation to
advance their own interests, and much more."

https://www.bookmanager.com/tbm/?q=h.tviewer&using_sb=status&qsb=keyword&qse=YHsfyCIcKaUYDqs0M10TLA

https://tinyurl.com/qv2gwcn



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Now after I save this message, I'm going to delete yours. It's the easiest way
to deal you nincompoops :) I have a program I wrote years ago to streamline >this kind of thing... think I'll dig it up.

FWIW it got out. Prolly bagged before you saw it.

Mike


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On 29 Feb 20 00:04:48, Janis Kracht said the following to Tim Richardson:

Perhaps... but I think the me and the other libtards are going to elect Ber

I fondly remember you and a few others were whining about fascism and an imaginary dictatorship from Trump in 2016. Trump was going to destroy your economy, constitution and civil rights. World war 3, total anarchy, black men back in chains, Hispanics tossed out by means of a giant wooden Acme catapolt.

Now you want to vote for a candidate who praises communist, socialist ideas and dictators, violent Antifa and a campaign ran by staffers openly calling for "re-education camps" for those pesky conservatives.

How appropriate is it that Fidogazette is ran by an editor who is giving everyone a taste of what will happen with that fascist fruit-loop in charge. Disagree with your beliefs and be censored, insulted, "kicked out".

Nick

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I agree I just barely read fidonews for the first time and wont be making
that mistake again. I dont care on what side of the political fence anyone
is on its hostile and crazy in that echo.

Regards
Rick

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Now after I save this message, I'm going to delete yours. It's the easiest

way

to deal you nincompoops :) I have a program I wrote years ago to streamline >> this kind of thing... think I'll dig it up.

FWIW it got out. Prolly bagged before you saw it.

Yep, no doubt... :)

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On 29/02/2020 12:04 a.m., Janis Kracht wrote:

...I think the me and the other libtards are going to
elect Bernie.

Check out this book:

Profiles in Corruption: Abuse of Power by America's Progressive Elite -
Peter Schweizer

"In Profiles in Corruption, Schweizer offers a deep-dive investigation
into the private finances, and secrets deals of some of Americaâ Ös top political leaders."

August, you have to do some research on Peter Schweizer.... he is senior editor-at-large of far-right media organization Breitbart News. 'nuf said.

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I fondly remember you and a few others were whining about fascism and an imaginary dictatorship from Trump in 2016. Trump was going to destroy your economy, constitution and civil rights. World war 3, total anarchy, black men
back in chains, Hispanics tossed out by means of a giant wooden Acme catapolt.

Now you want to vote for a candidate who praises communist, socialist ideas and dictators, violent Antifa and a campaign ran by staffers openly calling for "re-education camps" for those pesky conservatives.

How appropriate is it that Fidogazette is ran by an editor who is giving everyone a taste of what will happen with that fascist fruit-loop in charge. Disagree with your beliefs and be censored, insulted, "kicked out".

First, show me where I said any of the things you try to attribute to me. I'm not responsible for things other people say and I don't hold you responsible for things white nationalists say.

Beyond that why do you use the word communist alongside the word socialist. They are two different economic philosophies and you'll note that Bernie Sanders does not consider himself a communist but rather a democratic socialist. Is Sweeden a communist country? Denmark? Germany? Canada? Great Britain? All of these countries have implemented many of the policies you deride as Communist. You think throwing a label on something makes it bad?

I could infer from your comments that you must pay a private security firm and a private fire department to keep your home safe rather than rely on government
services...

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On 29 Feb 2020 &4, August Abolins said the following...

Profiles in Corruption: Abuse of Power by America's Progressive Elite - Peter Schweizer

"In Profiles in Corruption, Schweizer offers a deep-dive investigation into the private finances, and secrets deals of some of America’s top political leaders."

"Learn about how they are making sweetheart deals, generating side
income, bending the law to their own benefits, using legislation to advance their own interests, and much more."

It sounds like you just described the Trump administration. Don't forfet the rampant nepotism.

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On 03-14-20, DARRYL PERRY said to AUGUST ABOLINS:

On 29 Feb 2020 &4, August Abolins said the following...

Profiles in Corruption: Abuse of Power by America's Progressive Elite - Peter Schweizer

"In Profiles in Corruption, Schweizer offers a deep-dive investigation
into the private finances, and secrets deals of some of AmericaGÇÖs top political leaders."

"Learn about how they are making sweetheart deals, generating side
income, bending the law to their own benefits, using legislation to
advance their own interests, and much more."

It sounds like you just described the Trump administration. Don't forfet DP>the rampant nepotism.

There are reasons leftie liberals are so against a wall to keep illegal aliens from entering the US:


It will create a shortage of meth and heroin, MS 13 members, and new democrat voters!


Banning straws will do no good. California democrats will still suck!





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"When the stock market crashed, Franklin D. Roosevelt got on the
television and didn't just talk about the, you know, the princes
of greed. He said, 'Look, here's what happened.'" -Joe Biden,
apparently unaware that FDR wasn't president when the stock market
crashed in 1929 and that only experimental TV sets were in use at
that time.
~Interview with Katie Couric, Sept. 22, 2008

I am betting that Katie didn't question him on that, either. By that time
in 2008, Obama probably had it in the bag. If it had been earlier in the
year, like before Hillary got eliminated, she would have questioned it for sure... but only during that brief time frame.

Mike

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Hi Mike,

Hey, hope you and your family are doing well.

I am betting that Katie didn't question him on that, either. By that time
in 2008, Obama probably had it in the bag. If it had been earlier in the year, like before Hillary got eliminated, she would have questioned it for sure... but only during that brief time frame.

Not a hillary fan at all, but you should really take this to some other echo...

Thanks,
Janis

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Mike Powell wrote to DAN CLOUGH <=-

"When the stock market crashed, Franklin D. Roosevelt got on the
television and didn't just talk about the, you know, the princes
of greed. He said, 'Look, here's what happened.'" -Joe Biden,
apparently unaware that FDR wasn't president when the stock market
crashed in 1929 and that only experimental TV sets were in use at
that time.
~Interview with Katie Couric, Sept. 22, 2008

I am betting that Katie didn't question him on that, either. By
that time in 2008, Obama probably had it in the bag. If it had
been earlier in the year, like before Hillary got eliminated, she
would have questioned it for sure... but only during that brief
time frame.

Oh, I'm sure you're right. Katie is (was) right there with the
best of the "journalists" who may as well have been working for
the DNC. The "mainstream" media... What a joke.

None of them will ever call out anything that would embarrass a
Democrat, then or now.



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On 07-03-20, JANIS KRACHT said to NICK ANDRE:

Hi Nick,

By carefully studying several issues of the 'gazette to see that some have

had > politically-charged or baiting remarks in it since November 2016 for no

reason other than to push an agenda.

Yes, and I am going to continue doing what I do because it is the right JK>thing to do.

Perhaps you should try it for a change rather than 'following' the lead of JK>a man who puts children in cages?

For the record.....that was a policy practiced by the *Hussein Obama* presidency. Trump inherited it by taking office.


The democrat thugs like to CLAIM it was something instituted by Trump....but; as democrats are trained to do from puberty; they lie!


All democrats lie! Its their stock in trade!


They also are not above signing on to lies told by their fellow leftists, in order to falsely impugn an innocent person!

Janis

An excellent example!


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On 07-04-20, DAN CLOUGH said to JANIS KRACHT:

Janis Kracht wrote to Dan Clough <=-

Aren't you tired of seeing it everywhere too?

No, because I can sleep at night knowing that I do not support
this administration.

Well, that's nice. I sleep well at night too. Your answer
doesn't even remotely answer my question, though.

Here's an idea... if my politics are getting to you, go to
another echo.. wow, what an idea.

Sure, I could do that. We'll see.

Let me ask you one more question - I seem to recall you stating
that political topics/posts were not desired/allowed in this
echo... Is that true or not? Did you say that right here in
the echo a few months back?

You're right about that. In fact, more than once Kracht gave me trouble over that very thing.

The followup question to that
should be obvious...

... Ignorance can be cured. Stupid is forever.

Democrat lefties are the living proof of that! They don't come any stupider than a democrat leftie!


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On 07-05-20, JANIS KRACHT said to DAN CLOUGH:

Wrong, wrong, and wrong. Strike three.

One more comment from you on this and you are out of here.

Period.

You have been warned.

My echo, my rules.

I probably should have warned you some time ago.


Liberal democrats don't like a lot of things conservatives do or say.


In this echo Janis rules with an extremely biased iron fist.


A few posts ago I saw her tell someone she didn't mind what they said on the subject under discussion.


Now....she is typically threatening you with a ban from the echo.


This bears out what I've learned about leftie deomcrats over the years
here in Fido: No matter what the truth of a subject is....THEY are right!


And ...when they begin to see someone proving they are wrong....out come the threats to ban!

Janis Kracht
Moderator

The one named above is a top hand at that technique. Its the only way she (or her leftie democrat cohorts) can cover up the truth; if you are no longer here to argue the truth...as opposed to the lefties lies and distortions...then `they' get to play up `their' distorted version of it.


I will no doubt be thoroughly warned or outright banned from this echo for pointing all this out to you.











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TIM wrote:

Great! I've got some lists of `Trump' accomplishments I'm putting together, and will post them up in here forthwith!

Shouldn't take you more than a minute or two and one line of 80 characters or less to complete.

Does most time on the golf course count as an "accomplishment" ?
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On 07-14-20, NIGEL REED said to TIM RICHARDSON:

TIM wrote:

Great! I've got some lists of `Trump' accomplishments I'm putting together, and will post them up in here forthwith!

Shouldn't take you more than a minute or two and one line of 80 characters NR>or less to complete.

Does most time on the golf course count as an "accomplishment" ?

Pre-pandemic:


Put millions back to work.


More Americans were employed than any time prior to Trump.


Manufacturing jobs were growing at a faster rate in more than three decades!


Unemployment claims hit a 49 year low.


Median household income hit the highest level ever recorded.


Hispanic unemployment was the lowest ever recorded.


Asian American unemployment achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.


Women unemployment hit the lowest in 65 years.


Youth unemployment hit the lowest rate in almost 50 years


Almost 3.9 million Americans were lifted off food stamps.


95% of U.S. manufacturers were optimistic about America's future (highest ever).


Retail sales were great!


Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access pipeline.


Record number of regulations eliminated.


Increased American coal exports by 60%; US oil production hit all time high.


US a naturl gas exporter for the first time since 1957.


Withdrew the United States from the Paris Climate Accord.


Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called clean power plan.


Nato allies are now spending $69 billion more on their own defense.


Withdrew from the Iran deal.


Moved US embassy to Jerusalem.


Travel ban against terrorists (upheld by USSC).


Historic trade deal with Mexico to replace NAFTA.


Keeping Guantanimo open.


And on and on and on..........


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Seen on a T-Shirt:

Clinton made me want to be faithful.
Bush made me want to be smarter.
Obama made me want to be better.
Trump made me want to be Canadian.

Biden makes me feel like I should donate money to an Alzheimer's
research organization.

;-)

I know you lived in Kentucky for a while so you might understand and even remember this. Towards the end of his life Happy Chandler got to where you could not put a microphone in his face without him sticking his foot in his mouth. A lot of folks got up in arms about what he said, but others of us
who were familiar with his past history realized that most of what he was saying could be blamed on his declining mental faculties.

When I see Biden speak, I am reminded of Happy. I am also reminded of my
late Uncle, after his stroke. There is not much question that Joe's mental health is in decline. His recent generalizations about blacks and latinos should not surprise anyone. Nor should his forgetting where he is or forgetting what he is saying mid-sentence. You'd have to be deaf and blind
not to notice it.

That is why many suggest he should not debate. Despite Trump's many idiosyncracies, they are afraid of what Biden might say or do that will
make him look even worse.

Whoever he picks for his VP, should he win, will be the one that ultimately finishes out his first term. Be sure you are happy with his choice.

Mike

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[...] Despite Trump's many
idiosyncracies, they are afraid of what Biden might say or do that will
make him look even worse.

Cite some examples of Biden saying or doing things that come close to the idiocy this jerk Trump has uttered... please.

Just the latest example from Trump: yo-semite

Mike, use you brain...

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Janis Kracht wrote to Mike Powell <=-

[...] Despite Trump's many
idiosyncracies, they are afraid of what Biden might say or do that will
make him look even worse.

Cite some examples of Biden saying or doing things that come
close to the idiocy this jerk Trump has uttered... please.

Sure, here's one from just a day or so ago. What do you think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyq55Nzm4sg



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Sure, here's one from just a day or so ago. What do you think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyq55Nzm4sg

It's evidence of Biden _overcoming_ a childhood habit. Trump shows no such ability.

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Cite some examples of Biden saying or doing things that come close to the idio
this jerk Trump has uttered... please.

"We gotta...it's, just, but... you gotta... I mean...the...tee... we gotta 'gree-issue'... look, heh, my, my message to everybody I talk to..." -- Joe Biden, MSNBC "Morning Joe" interview earlier this year.

"We hold these truths to be self evident. All men and women created by
the, go, you know, you know, the thing." Joe Biden, campaign rally,
3/2/2020.

"You know the rapidly rising, uh, um, uh, in with, uh, with uh, I don't
know, uh..." Joe Biden, C-SPAN, June, 2020, apparently speaking about
COVID.

"The problem is, those countries like Africa and Asia, those places, they're the reason why we have all these problems." Joe, at a Primary campaign stop
in Iowa, circa March, 2020.

A couple of quotes that at least sound coherent, although I only read the transcript, which might have been edited to remove stammering and rambling:

"Unlike the African American community, with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community with incredibly different attitudes about different things." Joe Biden, interview hosted by National Association of Hispanic Journalists and the National Association of Black Journalists, earlier this week.

"We can build a new administration that reflects the full diversity of our nation. The full diversity of the Latino communities. Now, when I mean
full diversity, unlike (the) African American community, many other communities, you're from everywhere." -- Joe Biden, virtual National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials conference, shortly
after his campaign attempted to backtrack the previous comment above.

When I was in school, I learned that Africa is not just one big country and
has ethnic and cultural diversity, just like Central and South America do.
I would assume the leader of our country should know that, too, and am
pretty sure past leaders got dinged for making similar statements.

"No, I haven't taken a test! Why the Hell would I take a (cognitive) test? C'mon, man! That's like saying, 'You, before you got on this program,
you took a test where you're taking cocaine or not,' what do you think? Huh? Are you a junkie?" CBS interview, 8/5/2020. He in past claimed to have been tested multiple times.

"I am, um, I am very willing to let the American public judge my physical and mental fill... my physical as well as my mental fill... fitness...",
same CBS inteview.

You can search and find multiple examples on the campaign trail where he
cannot remember if he was elected VP in 1976 or 2010 or several other years that are not 2008. I could see confusing 2008 and 10, but any year
2008-2016 with 1976?

Just the latest example from Trump: yo-semite

OK I guess that proves that his mental "fillness" is slipping, too, or
maybe he is having trouble with his "gree-issue," or, um, uh, you know, his thing.

I sometimes stutter also, but what Joe has going on is well beyond a simple stutter. Like I have pointed out before, I have had at least a couple of relatives (and one co-worker) who started having issues like this. Maybe
Joe is more resilient than they were but, with all of them, when we started noticing things like this and when it became a serious issue took < 4 years.

Mike, use you brain...

I am. I think you might need to take off your blue-tinted glasses and
your blue-filtered earpiece and pay attention to Joe. If he gets elected,
I doubt he will serve a full term. He certainly won't make it 8 years
before the party decides he needs to step aside.

Like I said, be sure you are happy with his VP choice.

Mike


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Cite some examples of Biden saying or doing things that come close to the

idio

this jerk Trump has uttered... please.

[...] many texts deleted. Corrections don't bother me, uncorrected outright lies that Mr. Trump says do.

Like I said, be sure you are happy with his VP choice.

I'm _sure_ I will be. We will put together a good team for the 2020 Election.

In the meantime, perhaps you might (and I doubt you are brave or whatever enough to do so) read this article from The Rolling Stone, https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/covid-19-end-of-amer
ican-era-wade-davis-1038206/

Take care,
Janis

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