• telnet test, anyone

    From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to All on Thu Dec 3 18:37:00 2020
    Hello!

    Would a few people here please try a telnet connection to
    trmb.ca:23 please. It is Rusty Mailbox BBS.

    All my attempts are failing. Just wondering if others are
    having the same issue.

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  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to August Abolins on Thu Dec 3 19:12:43 2020
    On 03 Dec 2020, August Abolins said the following...

    Would a few people here please try a telnet connection to
    trmb.ca:23 please. It is Rusty Mailbox BBS.

    I was able to connect to trmb.ca:23 but then received this message:

    "Telnet service is disabled or Your telnet session has expired due to inactivity.
    .."

    I can connect to trmb.ca:513 without issue though.

    Jay

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  • From Charles Pierson@1:153/757.26 to August Abolins on Fri Dec 4 01:20:50 2020
    On 03 Dec 2020, August Abolins said the following...

    Hello!

    Would a few people here please try a telnet connection to
    trmb.ca:23 please. It is Rusty Mailbox BBS.

    All my attempts are failing. Just wondering if others are
    having the same issue.


    I have been for a while.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Jay Harris on Thu Dec 3 18:11:51 2020
    Re: telnet test, anyone
    By: Jay Harris to August Abolins on Thu Dec 03 2020 07:12 pm

    Would a few people here please try a telnet connection to
    trmb.ca:23 please. It is Rusty Mailbox BBS.

    I was able to connect to trmb.ca:23 but then received this message:

    "Telnet service is disabled or Your telnet session has expired due to inactivity.
    .."

    This is what has been reported to me but I don't know why.

    Do you know if that error is reported from your client or if it is a reply from my terminal server? I need to fix that if it is a local problem here.

    I can connect to trmb.ca:513 without issue though.

    This is also what I have found, and I don't understand if my terminal server will answer rlogin, why not telnet.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Charles Pierson on Thu Dec 3 18:13:22 2020
    Re: Re: telnet test, anyone
    By: Charles Pierson to August Abolins on Fri Dec 04 2020 01:20 am

    All my attempts are failing. Just wondering if others are
    having the same issue.

    I have been for a while.

    You have been failing for a while?

    Did you connect with telnet at one time but can't do that now?

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to Alan Ianson on Thu Dec 3 21:37:41 2020
    On 03 Dec 2020, Alan Ianson said the following...

    I was able to connect to trmb.ca:23 but then received this message:

    "Telnet service is disabled or Your telnet session has expired due to inactivity.
    .."

    This is what has been reported to me but I don't know why.

    Do you know if that error is reported from your client or if it is a
    reply frommy terminal server? I need to fix that if it is a local
    problem here.

    I just tried from the built in windows telnet client and received the same message, last time I was using SyncTerm so I believe it's coming from your side.

    I can connect to trmb.ca:513 without issue though.

    This is also what I have found, and I don't understand if my terminal serverwill answer rlogin, why not telnet.

    I am able to telnet and RLogin to port 513, so that part seems to be working.

    Jay

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  • From Charles Pierson@1:153/757.26 to Alan Ianson on Fri Dec 4 02:56:21 2020
    On 03 Dec 2020, Alan Ianson said the following...

    Re: Re: telnet test, anyone
    By: Charles Pierson to August Abolins on Fri Dec 04 2020 01:20 am

    All my attempts are failing. Just wondering if others are
    having the same issue.

    I have been for a while.

    You have been failing for a while?

    Did you connect with telnet at one time but can't do that now?

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    I've never managed a telnet connect other than the web telnet. port 23 gave
    me the same message I saw someone else post.

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  • From Nigel Reed@1:124/5016 to August Abolins on Thu Dec 3 23:02:41 2020
    August wrote:
    Hello!

    Would a few people here please try a telnet connection to
    trmb.ca:23 please. It is Rusty Mailbox BBS.

    All my attempts are failing. Just wondering if others are
    having the same issue.

    telnet trmb.ca
    Trying 104.246.155.40...
    Connected to trmb.ca.
    Escape character is '^]'.


    Telnet service is disabled or Your telnet session has expired due to inactivity...
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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Nigel Reed on Thu Dec 3 21:22:44 2020
    Re: Re: telnet test, anyone
    By: Nigel Reed to August Abolins on Thu Dec 03 2020 11:02 pm

    telnet trmb.ca
    Trying 104.246.155.40...
    Connected to trmb.ca.
    Escape character is '^]'.

    It looks like you are not getting any answer on the telnet port?

    You are the forth person to get this same result. I need to fix this but I don't know the cause.

    Telnet service is disabled or Your telnet session has expired due to inactivity...

    The telnet service here is enabled. I am telnetting in right now (from within my own network). When I go to canyouseeme.org or the Synchronet port check page they see my telnet and other ports open.

    I'm looking for the solution but I don't know what the problem may be.

    Thanks everyone for testing this out.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Charles Pierson on Thu Dec 3 22:55:44 2020
    Re: Re: telnet test, anyone
    By: Charles Pierson to Alan Ianson on Fri Dec 04 2020 02:56 am

    I've never managed a telnet connect other than the web telnet. port 23 gave me the same message I saw someone else post.

    Something is messing with my ports. I'm not sure what. My router or my ISP but I have now changed the telnet port to 2030 and the SSH port to 2022.

    If anyone can give those a try I'd appreciate that.

    Telnet is trmb.ca:2030
    RLogin is trmb.ca:513
    SSH is trmb.ca:2022

    If the above ports check out I'll leave it at that.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/0 to Alan Ianson on Fri Dec 4 11:34:22 2020

    03 Dec 20 22:55, Alan Ianson wrote to Charles Pierson:

    Re: Re: telnet test, anyone
    By: Charles Pierson to Alan Ianson on Fri Dec 04 2020 02:56 am

    I've never managed a telnet connect other than the web telnet. port 23
    gave me the same message I saw someone else post.

    Something is messing with my ports. I'm not sure what. My router or my ISP but I have now changed the telnet port
    to 2030 and the SSH port to 2022.

    If anyone can give those a try I'd appreciate that.

    Telnet is trmb.ca:2030

    This telnet port is working now.


    === Cut ===
    tommi@kco:~$ telnet trmb.ca 2030
    Trying 104.246.155.40...
    telnet trmb.ca 2030
    Connected to trmb.ca.
    Escape character is '^]'.

    Synchronet BBS for Linux Version 3.18
    Telnet connection from: 51.38.115.207
    Resolving hostname...

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    _
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    CLIENT CONN: Telnet
    ADDR: kco.fidonet.fi [51.38.115.207]
    TERM: 100x33 ANSI
    SERVER NAME: The Rusty MailBox
    ADDR: trmb.ca
    NODE: 2 (of 6) - Linux 5.4.81 x86_64
    TIME: Fri Dec 04 2020 01:33 am PST
    ADMN: Al

    If you are a new user to the system, type "New" now.
    Otherwise, enter your user name or number now.

    Enter User Name or Number or 'New' or 'Guest'
    Login:

    === Cut ===

    'Tommi

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  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to Alan Ianson on Fri Dec 4 08:14:02 2020
    On 03 Dec 2020, Alan Ianson said the following...

    Telnet is trmb.ca:2030
    RLogin is trmb.ca:513
    SSH is trmb.ca:2022

    Heya Al,

    I was now able to connect to Telnet & SSH no problem. I wasn't able to connect to RLogin, but this was from my work which sometimes does funky things, so could be my end.

    Jay

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to August Abolins on Fri Dec 4 16:17:32 2020
    Hi August!

    03 Dec 2020 18:37, from August Abolins -> All:

    Would a few people here please try a telnet connection to
    trmb.ca:23 please. It is Rusty Mailbox BBS.

    All my attempts are failing. Just wondering if others are
    having the same issue.

    Yes.
    But telnet is depracted anyways.

    ricsi@menedetter:~$ telnet trmb.ca
    Trying 104.246.155.40...
    Connected to trmb.ca.
    Escape character is '^]'.

    Telnet service is disabled or Your telnet session has expired due to inactivity...
    Connection closed by foreign host.

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Alan Ianson on Fri Dec 4 16:22:54 2020
    Hi Alan!

    03 Dec 2020 21:22, from Alan Ianson -> Nigel Reed:

    It looks like you are not getting any answer on the telnet port?

    That is not true.
    You get this answer:
    "Telnet service is disabled or Your telnet session has expired due to inactivity..."

    That string is transmitted when somebody connects to that address on telnet.

    When I go to canyouseeme.org or the Synchronet
    port check page they see my telnet and other ports open.

    That is because the telnet port IS open, and you get the string quoted above.

    ricsi@menedetter:~$ nmap trmb.ca -p telnet
    Starting Nmap 7.70 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2020-12-04 16:22 CET

    Nmap scan report for trmb.ca (104.246.155.40)

    Host is up (0.17s latency).
    rDNS record for 104.246.155.40: 104-246-155-40.cpe.teksavvy.com

    PORT STATE SERVICE
    23/tcp open telnet

    Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 0.60 seconds

    BTW you should really reconsider .... having telnet enabled in 2020 is a very bad idea!

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Nigel Reed@1:124/5016 to Alan Ianson on Fri Dec 4 11:14:27 2020
    Alan wrote:
    Re: Re: telnet test, anyone
    By: Charles Pierson to Alan Ianson on Fri Dec 04 2020 02:56 am

    I've never managed a telnet connect other than the web telnet. port 23 gave me the same message I saw someone else post.

    Something is messing with my ports. I'm not sure what. My router or my ISP but I have now changed the telnet port to 2030 and the SSH port to 2022.

    If anyone can give those a try I'd appreciate that.

    Telnet is trmb.ca:2030
    RLogin is trmb.ca:513
    SSH is trmb.ca:2022

    telnet worked, ssh didn't

    nigel@wibble:~$ ssh trmb.ca 2022
    kex_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
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  • From Nigel Reed@1:124/5016 to Richard Menedetter on Fri Dec 4 11:24:59 2020
    Richard wrote:
    That is not true.
    You get this answer:
    "Telnet service is disabled or Your telnet session has expired due to inactivity..."

    That string is transmitted when somebody connects to that address on telnet.

    Even though the BBS has moved to another port, the message is still displayed. I can't find anything in sbbs that displays this message. Maybe something is already listening on port 23, the router is redirecting somewhere else or the ISP is interfering.

    What if you redirect port 23 on the router to port 2030 on the server?
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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Tommi Koivula on Fri Dec 4 10:14:52 2020
    Re: telnet test, anyone
    By: Tommi Koivula to Alan Ianson on Fri Dec 04 2020 11:34 am

    If anyone can give those a try I'd appreciate that.

    Telnet is trmb.ca:2030

    This telnet port is working now.

    That's excellent progress, thanks Tommi.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Jay Harris on Fri Dec 4 10:16:31 2020
    Re: Re: telnet test, anyone
    By: Jay Harris to Alan Ianson on Fri Dec 04 2020 08:14 am

    Telnet is trmb.ca:2030
    RLogin is trmb.ca:513
    SSH is trmb.ca:2022

    I was now able to connect to Telnet & SSH no problem. I wasn't able to connect to RLogin, but this was from my work which sometimes does funky things, so could be my end.

    Thanks for checking. I'll keep an eye on rlogin and see if that needs adjusting.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Richard Menedetter on Fri Dec 4 10:24:56 2020
    Re: telnet test, anyone
    By: Richard Menedetter to Alan Ianson on Fri Dec 04 2020 04:22 pm

    It looks like you are not getting any answer on the telnet port?

    That is not true.
    You get this answer:
    "Telnet service is disabled or Your telnet session has expired due to inactivity..."

    I think that is a message from your client trying to explain the failure.

    BTW you should really reconsider .... having telnet enabled in 2020 is a very bad idea!

    It is a bad idea today but I do have ssh for those that can use it. The website is also secure along with the web telnet service.

    There are some who still use and prefer telnet so I make that available but we do have secure protocols available for folks to use. ssh is a good option today and works with the BBS including doors and file transfers.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Nigel Reed on Fri Dec 4 10:41:30 2020
    Re: Re: telnet test, anyone
    By: Nigel Reed to Alan Ianson on Fri Dec 04 2020 11:14 am

    telnet worked, ssh didn't

    nigel@wibble:~$ ssh trmb.ca 2022
    kex_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host

    Hmm.. I wonder what caused the failure. At least the ssh server is listening and answering, so that's progress.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Rob Swindell@1:103/705 to Alan Ianson on Fri Dec 4 14:02:27 2020
    Re: telnet test, anyone
    By: Alan Ianson to Richard Menedetter on Fri Dec 04 2020 10:24 am

    Re: telnet test, anyone
    By: Richard Menedetter to Alan Ianson on Fri Dec 04 2020 04:22 pm

    It looks like you are not getting any answer on the telnet port?

    That is not true.
    You get this answer:
    "Telnet service is disabled or Your telnet session has expired due to inactivity..."

    I think that is a message from your client trying to explain the failure.

    Definitely not. Whatever is accepting connections at trba.ca:23 is definitly sending the string "Telnet service is disabled or Your telnet session has expired due to inactivity." - this is not a string sent by Synchronet or from the client (e.g. SyncTERM).
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  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to Alan Ianson on Fri Dec 4 16:55:30 2020
    On 04 Dec 2020, Alan Ianson said the following...

    I was now able to connect to Telnet & SSH no problem. I wasn't able t connect to RLogin, but this was from my work which sometimes does fun things, so could be my end.

    Thanks for checking. I'll keep an eye on rlogin and see if that needs adjusting.

    Just tried RLogin from home and it seems to be working fine.

    Jay

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Rob Swindell on Fri Dec 4 14:23:06 2020
    Re: telnet test, anyone
    By: Rob Swindell to Alan Ianson on Fri Dec 04 2020 02:02 pm

    Definitely not. Whatever is accepting connections at trba.ca:23 is definitly sending the string "Telnet service is disabled or Your telnet session has expired due to inactivity." - this is not a string sent by Synchronet or from the client (e.g. SyncTERM).

    Excellent news. I think that is my router answering. I think I can disable that and get the BBS back on the standard ports where it belongs. Thanks for looking at that.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Jay Harris on Fri Dec 4 14:24:10 2020
    Re: Re: telnet test, anyone
    By: Jay Harris to Alan Ianson on Fri Dec 04 2020 04:55 pm

    Just tried RLogin from home and it seems to be working fine.

    Good stuff. I'm about to try a few changes and see if I can get the right servers answering!

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to Alan Ianson on Fri Dec 4 20:33:02 2020
    On 04 Dec 2020, Alan Ianson said the following...

    Good stuff. I'm about to try a few changes and see if I can get the right servers answering!

    It's weird, if I search for that exact string on shodan, it comes up 65,121 times in Canada and seemingly all from independent ISPs like TekSavvy, Primus & Distributel:

    https://imgur.com/a/ezYGNO7


    Jay

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    * Origin: Northern Realms (1:229/664)
  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Alan Ianson on Sat Dec 5 10:48:08 2020
    Hi Alan!

    04 Dec 2020 10:24, from Alan Ianson -> Richard Menedetter:

    It looks like you are not getting any answer on the telnet port?
    That is not true.
    You get this answer:
    "Telnet service is disabled or Your telnet session has expired
    due to inactivity..."
    I think that is a message from your client trying to explain the
    failure.

    Then you think wrong.
    See the pcap here:
    https://menedetter.net/telnet.pcap

    This message
    "Telnet service is disabled or Your telnet session has expired due to inactivity..."
    is coming from 104.246.155.40

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Alan Ianson on Sat Dec 5 10:52:12 2020
    Hi Alan!

    04 Dec 2020 10:41, from Alan Ianson -> Nigel Reed:

    telnet worked, ssh didn't
    nigel@wibble:~$ ssh trmb.ca 2022
    kex_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
    Hmm.. I wonder what caused the failure. At least the ssh server is listening and answering, so that's progress.

    Same here, remote unexpectedly closed connection.

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Rob Swindell on Sat Dec 5 10:54:08 2020
    Hi Rob!

    04 Dec 2020 14:02, from Rob Swindell -> Alan Ianson:

    Definitely not. Whatever is accepting connections at trba.ca:23 is definitly sending the string

    Just do a netstat -ltp and look what process is bound to TCP/23

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Jay Harris on Sat Dec 5 10:55:52 2020
    Hi Jay!

    04 Dec 2020 16:55, from Jay Harris -> Alan Ianson:

    Just tried RLogin from home and it seems to be working fine.

    Let me quote from wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-tools

    R-tools are a set of Unix/Linux tools that allow basic unsecured administration of Unix/Linux systems by establishing a Remote Shell. Similar in nature to Telnet but much less popular, R-tools is considered by most IT professionals to be dangerous and obsolete. The much preferred way to do a remote shell is ssh.

    Nothing to add.

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Jay Harris on Sat Dec 5 11:57:40 2020
    Re: Re: telnet test, anyone
    By: Jay Harris to Alan Ianson on Fri Dec 04 2020 08:33 pm

    It's weird, if I search for that exact string on shodan, it comes up 65,121 times in Canada and seemingly all from independent ISPs like TekSavvy, Primus & Distributel:

    Yes, I am with TekSavvy and I am using a modem they provide.

    I can disable the telnet server in the setup but calls coming in on telnet and ssh are still being blocked for some reason. I'm going to have to use non standard ports until I can find a way to clear that blockage.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    ... A mind is a terrible thing to.. OH DOOM ][ is here!
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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Richard Menedetter on Sat Dec 5 12:01:05 2020
    Re: telnet test, anyone
    By: Richard Menedetter to Alan Ianson on Sat Dec 05 2020 10:48 am

    Then you think wrong.
    See the pcap here:
    https://menedetter.net/telnet.pcap

    This message
    "Telnet service is disabled or Your telnet session has expired due to inactivity..."
    is coming from 104.246.155.40

    Yes, I think it is my router answering telnet. It's not a very helpful message. That telnet server was only enabled on the lan and I never see that message on the lan, it just times out after 60 seconds.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Richard Menedetter on Sat Dec 5 12:28:01 2020
    Re: telnet test, anyone
    By: Richard Menedetter to Alan Ianson on Sat Dec 05 2020 10:52 am

    telnet worked, ssh didn't
    nigel@wibble:~$ ssh trmb.ca 2022
    kex_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host

    Hmm.. I wonder what caused the failure. At least the ssh server is
    listening and answering, so that's progress.

    Same here, remote unexpectedly closed connection.

    I use a command like this to use ssh.

    ssh al@trmb.ca -p 2022

    If you use an unrecognized name it will take you through the new user process.

    It's possible to login as guest@trmb.ca and just make up a password. The BBS will again ask you for a password so just press enter and it will log you in as guest after asking a few questions.

    A guest can look at and read just about everything but can't play games or post/reply in most areas.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    ... I can't decide between EDLIN and Word for Windows...
    --- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757.2)
  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Alan Ianson on Sun Dec 6 10:52:10 2020
    Hi Alan!

    05 Dec 2020 12:28, from Alan Ianson -> Richard Menedetter:

    Same here, remote unexpectedly closed connection.

    Behaviour on your side changed.
    It used to simply reset the connection.
    Now it IS working.

    CU, Ricsi

    ... I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent!
    --- GoldED+/LNX
    * Origin: Bacon... it's like pig candy. (2:310/31)
  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Richard Menedetter on Sun Dec 6 06:49:12 2020
    Re: telnet test, anyone
    By: Richard Menedetter to Alan Ianson on Sun Dec 06 2020 10:52 am

    Same here, remote unexpectedly closed connection.

    Behaviour on your side changed.
    It used to simply reset the connection.

    I've been messing with my ports the last few days..

    Now it IS working.

    Good, I hope that will continue to be the case.

    Thank you for testing that, thank you to all who have helped me sort this out.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    ... Put on your seatbelt - I'm gonna try something new!
    --- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757.2)
  • From Nigel Reed@1:124/5016 to Alan Ianson on Sun Dec 6 20:43:07 2020
    Alan wrote:
    Re: Re: telnet test, anyone
    By: Jay Harris to Alan Ianson on Fri Dec 04 2020 08:33 pm

    It's weird, if I search for that exact string on shodan, it comes up 65,121 times in Canada and seemingly all from independent ISPs like TekSavvy, Primus & Distributel:

    Yes, I am with TekSavvy and I am using a modem they provide.

    I can disable the telnet server in the setup but calls coming in on telnet and ssh are still being blocked for some reason. I'm going to have to use non standard ports until I can find a way to clear that blockage.

    Buy a cheap router and stick OpenWRT on it.
    --- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
    * Origin: End Of The Line BBS - endofthelinebbs.com (1:124/5016)
  • From Nigel Reed@1:124/5016 to Alan Ianson on Mon Dec 7 10:56:18 2020
    Alan wrote:
    Re: telnet test, anyone
    By: Richard Menedetter to Alan Ianson on Sat Dec 05 2020 10:48 am

    Then you think wrong.
    See the pcap here:
    https://menedetter.net/telnet.pcap

    This message
    "Telnet service is disabled or Your telnet session has expired due to inactivity..."
    is coming from 104.246.155.40

    Yes, I think it is my router answering telnet. It's not a very helpful message. That telnet server was only enabled on the lan and I never see that message on the lan, it just times out after 60 seconds.

    This looks like your ISP is blocking, other IPs on the same subnet also give the same error. You should maybe talk to them about getting port 23 opened up. --- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
    * Origin: End Of The Line BBS - endofthelinebbs.com (1:124/5016)
  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Nigel Reed on Mon Dec 7 09:09:39 2020
    Re: Re: telnet test, anyone
    By: Nigel Reed to Alan Ianson on Mon Dec 07 2020 10:56 am

    This looks like your ISP is blocking, other IPs on the same subnet also give the same error. You should maybe talk to them about getting port 23 opened up.

    If the ISP was blocking port 23 would they display that message?

    That might be. It seems more likely to me that there is a server in the router answering. I get the same behaviour on port 22 and there is also a server on that port. I don't know why they would do that. Those servers (if that is what is is) are useless and just block me from using port 22 or 23. I access the setup on that router with a webpage that doesn't interfere with the web server. I wish they would have left it at that but that is my situation.

    I am going to bring this up with my ISP at some point along with another issue that needs to be brought up.

    I hope I can chat with somebody who understands what I am talking about.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    ... Should I or shouldn't I?... Too late, I did!
    --- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757.2)