Is there a setting in GoldED to enable the *bold* /italic/ and
_underline_ views?
Yes. https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/files/2020-10-15_19-07-54.png
Yes. https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/files/2020-10-15_19-07-54.png
I had a feeling that I would get that one-word answer. LOL
Is the change required in the username.CFG file? If so, what do those lines look like in your file?
Is the change required in the username.CFG file?
[snip]
Is the change required in the username.CFG file?
Yes it is but only Thomas can do that.
Is the change required in the username.CFG file?
Yes it is but only Thomas can do that.Are you sure? We *can* open username.CFG for editing.
STYLECODES <yes/hide/no> (hide)
Re: bold italic underline - how?
By: Stas Mishchenkov to August Abolins on Thu Oct 15 2020 10:11 pm
STYLECODES <yes/hide/no> (hide)
I'm curious about the history of these "StyleCodes" supported by
GoldEd+. Anyone know where/when their original inspiration was? GoldEd
and GoldEd+ don't actually support stylized text (just normal CGA color/brightness text attributes), so it seems to me there must have
been some other FidoNet software that actually supported bold/italic/underlined text display using those codes first. Anyone know?
Hi! Rob,
On 10/18/2020 06:17 AM, you wrote to Stas Mishchenkov:
Re: bold italic underline - how?
By: Stas Mishchenkov to August Abolins on Thu Oct 15 2020 10:11 pm
STYLECODES <yes/hide/no> (hide)
I'm curious about the history of these "StyleCodes" supported by GoldEd+. Anyone know where/when their original inspiration was? GoldEd and GoldEd+ don't actually support stylized text (just normal CGA color/brightness text attributes), so it seems to me there must have been some other FidoNet software that actually supported bold/italic/underlined text display using those codes first. Anyone know?
I don't know for certain. But I have to say that the point package called SemPoint for Windows had a really nice mode. It used Windows fonts to portray/display the actual styles on characters in FTN messages, in response to the style codes. It called the mode something like 'rich text'.
Thanks for the pointer! I installed sempoint v2.26 (16-bit Windows programs, remember those? That was fun) just so I could read the help text, and indeed, it describes its "rich text" feature as you said. It appears to support bold, italic, underline (and combinations of those) using the same syntax as GoldEd but does not mention the inverse style supported in GoldEd (#this#). Still, appears to be the likely impetus.
[snip]Thanks for the pointer! I installed sempoint v2.26 (16-bit
Windows programs, remember those? That was fun) just so I could
read the help text, and indeed, it describes its "rich text"
I had thought to do the same but I don't do Windows enough to whiz out
a tester and plug-in to a FTN source. !6-bit... eouch! :)
Yes, it looks like some stirrings of competition. Pity about
SemPoint.
I opened my username.cfg, and added STYLECODES YES
It did not work. :(
On 10-18-20 08:14, Paul Quinn wrote to Rob Swindell <=-
I had thought to do the same but I don't do Windows enough to whiz out
a tester and plug-in to a FTN source. !6-bit... eouch! :)
Yes, it looks like some stirrings of competition. Pity about SemPoint.
On 10-18-20 02:55, August Abolins wrote to Paul Quinn <=-
Sempoint is a fine performer on my XP machine. Pity is more aptly
directed to the lack of "16bit" support in recent Windows versions.
[snip]
Is the change required in the username.CFG file?
Yes it is but only Thomas can do that.
Are you sure?
We *can* open username.CFG for editing.
Is the change required in the username.CFG file?
Yes it is but only Thomas can do that.
Are you sure? We *can* open username.CFG for editing.
I opened my username.cfg, and added STYLECODES YES
It did not work. :(
...The change(s) is
/are required to be made to your personal copy of
*golded.cfg*, which we(Points) neither have read nor write
access to, that's why I said that only Thomas can make the
changes.
--- OpenXP 5.0.47^
I think they are enabled unless you use "STYLECODES NO" in your
config. "STYLECODES HIDE" is another option that I think strips the /
or * from the text.
Is the change required in the username.CFG file?
Yes it is but only Thomas can do that.
The change(s) is/are required to be made to your personal copy of *golded.cfg*, which we(Points) neither have read nor write access to, that's why I said that only Thomas can make the changes.
The change(s) is/are required to be made to your personal copy of
*golded.cfg*, which we(Points) neither have read nor write access
to, that's why I said that only Thomas can make the changes.
What kind of setup is that? Do you have a shell login and use golded
on a remote machine?
Is the change required in the username.CFG file?
Yes it is but only Thomas can do that.
The change(s) is/are required to be made to your personal copy of
*golded.cfg*, which we(Points) neither have read nor write access to,
that's why I said that only Thomas can make the changes.
What kind of setup is that? Do you have a shell login and use golded on a remote machine?
What kind of setup is that? Do you have a shell login and use
golded on a remote machine?
Veleno offers point access via what appears to be Windows RDP.
Remote DP, your environment is under control of your boss. A special config structure is required to get golded into a multi-user config..
Did anybody said already that the golded stylecodes are just a colorization of the normal text? You don't get bold or underlined
text. It's just highlighting the text with a different color.
Re: bold italic underline - how?
By: Paul Quinn to Rob Swindell on Sun Oct 18 2020 06:34 am
Hi! Rob,
On 10/18/2020 06:17 AM, you wrote to Stas Mishchenkov:
Re: bold italic underline - how?
By: Stas Mishchenkov to August Abolins on Thu Oct 15 2020 10:11 pm
STYLECODES <yes/hide/no> (hide)
I'm curious about the history of these "StyleCodes" supported by GoldEd+. Anyone know where/when their original inspiration was? GoldEd and GoldEd+ don't actually support stylized text (just normal CGA color/brightness text attributes), so it seems to me there must have been some other FidoNet software that actually supported bold/italic/underlined text display using those codes first. Anyone know?
I don't know for certain. But I have to say that the point package called SemPoint for Windows had a really nice mode. It used Windows fonts to portray/display the actual styles on characters in FTN messages, in response to the style codes. It called the mode something like 'rich text'.
Thanks for the pointer! I installed sempoint v2.26 (16-bit Windows programs, remember those? That was fun) just so I could read the help text, and indeed, it describes its "rich text" feature as you said. It appears to support bold, italic, underline (and combinations of those) using the same syntax as GoldEd but does not mention the inverse style supported in GoldEd (#this#). Still, appears to be the likely impetus. Thanks again!
The version of Synchronet now in development now has support for message Markup, in the same veign as GoldEd's StyleCodes, with exceptions:
- no combining/nesting of styles
- the parsing rules are not configurable as they are with GoldEd+
It's a sysop "opt-in" feature in sbbs v3.18c (per message area), but
I'll likely make it the default for newly created/added sub-boards in
the future once the feature is sufficiently tested.
Here's a sample of what it looks like when using SyncTERM and custom fonts:
https://1drv.ms/u/s!ApZPvWcrEaRQvOhXPHfQo0mI4N5_jg?e=wjy6qa
Hi! Rob,
On 11/03/2020 04:49 AM, you wrote:
The version of Synchronet now in development now has support for message Markup, in the same veign as GoldEd's StyleCodes, with exceptions:
- no combining/nesting of styles
- the parsing rules are not configurable as they are with GoldEd+
Thank you. I'll tell August Abolins when I next see him. He was the original enquirer. Thank you.
(But, frankly, I've given up on a solution to the quandary between BBS packages. Your star performance on EwwToob swayed me for a bit but I have set off in a tangential direction, two months back.)
It's a sysop "opt-in" feature in sbbs v3.18c (per message area), but I'll likely make it the default for newly created/added sub-boards in the future once the feature is sufficiently tested.
Here's a sample of what it looks like when using SyncTERM and custom fonts:
https://1drv.ms/u/s!ApZPvWcrEaRQvOhXPHfQo0mI4N5_jg?e=wjy6qa
My attention was immediately drawn to the 'underline' sample It's a 60s thing. It looks like a crazy OCR-A lowercase. Groovy.
thing. It looks like a crazy OCR-A lowercase. Groovy.
Yeah, until such time as we have a BBS terminal that actually support italics and underlined text, it's the best I can do. :-)
Okay, no problem. I think it's a cool feature and it'd nice if more
BBS packages and offline readers supported a compatible markup.
Further steps will probably require a further integration of Fidonet
into the collection of internets.
Further steps will probably require a further integration of
Fidonet into the collection of internets.
?? What steps? That is already done! All you need to do is to upgrade
your software and find an access point. You will have full markup
support, real bold italic and underline is no problem, you could
integrate pictures, audio and video into your postings. Thousands of Boards are waiting for you.
Further steps will probably require a further integration of
Fidonet into the collection of internets.
?? What steps? That is already done! All you need to do is to
upgrade your software and find an access point. You will have
full markup support, real bold italic and underline is no
problem, you could integrate pictures, audio and video into your
postings. Thousands of Boards are waiting for you.
Yes, that is what I intimated. Have you seen the 'telegrams'?
My favourite interface is NNTP.
See what I mean(t)?
Yes, that is what I intimated. Have you seen the 'telegrams'?
No. I don't understand telegrams in this context. Intimating fails due to translation. Sorry.
Further steps will probably require a further integration of
Fidonet into the collection of internets.
?? What steps? That is already done! All you need to do is to
upgrade your software and find an access point. You will have
full markup support, real bold italic and underline is no
problem, you could integrate pictures, audio and video into your
postings. Thousands of Boards are waiting for you.
Yes, that is what I intimated. Have you seen the 'telegrams'?
No. I don't understand telegrams in this context.
Yes, that is what I intimated. Have you seen the 'telegrams'?No. I don't understand telegrams in this context.
I think he was referring to the Telegram Messenger -> <- Fidonet gateway.
Hi! Martin, On 05 Nov 2020, Martin Foster said the following... MF>
think he was referring to the Telegram Messenger -> <- FidonetYes, that is what I intimated. Have you seen the 'telegrams'?
No. I don't understand telegrams in this context. MF> I
gateway. Yes. Extrapolate the logic by excising the gateway and you
get an Android Fidonet. Sounds like fun, I'm sure.
I like a technical evolution like anyone but it needs a limit or an
horizon of sorts. At the momemt, telegraphing looks great but I
worry at where it will end. (I was 'chanelling' an imaginary person
of the 1870s? thinking similar of the original telegraphy.) I like
my GoldEd (& NNTP), oh and BBSs. :)
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