• NNTP server and quotation

    From Alexander Koryagin@2:221/6 to All on Thu Feb 7 20:53:42 2019

    Hi, ALL!

    When I wrote messages via Paul Quinn's NNTP server I had a neat feature of his server -- it could properly make quotation when I replied to messages. NNTP server of Tommy Koivula doesn't have such ability. Does Tommy's server have no such an ability or the feature is not turned on?

    Bye, ALL!
    Alexander Koryagin

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/6 to Alexander Koryagin on Thu Feb 7 21:39:14 2019
    "Alexander Koryagin" <0@6.221.2> wrote:

    Hi, ALL!

    When I wrote messages via Paul Quinn's NNTP server I had a neat feature
    of his server -- it could properly make quotation when I replied to messages. NNTP server of Tommy Koivula doesn't have such ability. Does Tommy's server have no such an ability or the feature is not turned on?

    There is a setting "-smartquote":

    "The quoting style of most newsreaders is different from traditional fidonet
    software. If you enable this option, JamNNTPd will try to change any quoted
    lines to fidonet style. This means that it will try to insert the initials
    of the person you reply to before the '>' character and also that it will try
    to compound multiple generations of quotes, i.e. "AA> BB>" will be changed
    into "BB>>".

    Reformatting quotes in this way means that the user who posts a message will
    no longer have final say over the final content of the message since it will
    be changed after he or she sends it to JamNNTPd. Since this in principle is
    a bad thing even if quoted text will look a lot better after reformatting,
    this option is turned off by default."

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    And yes, it has been turned off in this server. Every newsreader has it own way
    of quoting, so it may or may not work properly.

    'Tommi

    PS. Please check the spelling of my first name. ;)

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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5020/2140.2 to Tommi Koivula on Fri Feb 8 13:26:40 2019
    Hi, Tommi Koivula!
    I read your message from 07.02.2019 20:36

    TK> And yes, it has been turned off in this server. Every
    TK> newsreader has it own way of quoting, so it may or may not work
    TK> properly.

    However I remember that when I quoted messages with my own quoter, by
    myself, my messages were not distorted. IMHO, Paul NNTP server has the
    feature that his quoting system doesn't work if I quote a message by
    myself. Probably Paul could say more on this account.

    TK> PS. Please check the spelling of my first name. ;)

    Sorry. :)

    Bye, Tommi!
    Alexander Koryagin
    fido7.jamnntpd 2019
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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to alexander koryagin on Fri Feb 8 20:44:14 2019
    On 8.2.2019 15:26, alexander koryagin wrote:

    Hi, Tommi Koivula!
    I read your message from 07.02.2019 20:36

    And yes, it has been turned off in this server. Every
    newsreader has it own way of quoting, so it may or may not work
    properly.

    However I remember that when I quoted messages with my own quoter, by myself, my messages were not distorted. IMHO, Paul NNTP server has the feature that his quoting system doesn't work if I quote a message by myself. Probably Paul could say more on this account.

    If the 'smartquote' is off, you can be sure that what you write is what
    you see after posting. I prefer to keep the setting off.

    'Tommi

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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384.125 to alexander koryagin on Sat Feb 9 08:54:52 2019
    Hi! Alexander,

    On 02/09/2019 04:44 AM, you wrote to Tommi Koivula :

    However I remember that when I quoted messages with my own
    quoter, by myself, my messages were not distorted. IMHO, Paul
    NNTP server has the feature that his quoting system doesn't work
    if I quote a message by myself. Probably Paul could say more on
    this account.

    If the 'smartquote' is off, you can be sure that what you write is what you see after posting. I prefer to keep the setting off.

    I don't recall doing anything in particular. Yes, 'smartquote' is enabled on all my configured servers (all others are not public, like this one). You may care to revert to using your own quoter utility and look for any potential undesired side-effects.

    Alternatively, if you miss the freedom of the Fidonet quoting feature you could
    administer your own JamNNTPd server. ;)

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Alexander Koryagin@2:221/6 to Paul Quinn on Sat Feb 9 21:32:56 2019
    Hi, Paul Quinn!
    I read your message from 09.02.2019 01:54


    However I remember that when I quoted messages with my own
    quoter, by myself, my messages were not distorted. IMHO, Paul
    NNTP server has the feature that his quoting system doesn't work
    if I quote a message by myself. Probably Paul could say more on
    this account.

    If the 'smartquote' is off, you can be sure that what you write is
    what you see after posting. I prefer to keep the setting off.

    I don't recall doing anything in particular. Yes, 'smartquote' is
    enabled on all my configured servers (all others are not public,
    like this one). You may care to revert to using your own quoter
    utility and look for any potential undesired side-effects.

    Alternatively, if you miss the freedom of the Fidonet quoting
    feature you could administer your own JamNNTPd server.

    Yes, I have my own quoter. It works even when I answer messages on WEB forums. But not every person so happy as me. Probably I asked Tommi for another reason -- to show the world that I am still alive. ;-)

    Bye, Paul!
    Alexander Koryagin
    jamnntpd 2019

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1 to Alexander Koryagin on Sun Feb 10 14:48:52 2019

    But not every person so happy as me. Probably I asked Tommi for
    another reason -- to show the world that I am still alive. ;-)



    'Tommi

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