Hi all,

I am new to Mystic and am setup as a point on FidoNet and a node on MetroNet. I'm receiving messages just fine, but when it comes to sending outbound messages, it's not working. I can see in the logs that they're getting packed but it doesn't look like the files are being sent. Here's my outbound event settings:

Event Type: Semaphore
Shell: mutil mail.ini|fidopoll send|mutil mail.ini
Semaphore: echomail.out|netmail.out
Kill After: echomail.out|netmail.out

My mail.ini is set to export and import echomail, pack message bases, and link messages.

I can send netmail and it seems to work because my AreaFixes have worked. Any idea as what I need to check?

Thanks.

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|03Quoting message from |11Andy Gorman |03to |11All
|03on |117 Apr 21 09:23|03.

Hi all,

I am new to Mystic and am setup as a point on FidoNet and a node on MetroN I'm receiving messages just fine, but when it comes to sending outbound messages, it's not working. I can see in the logs that they're getting pa but it doesn't look like the files are being sent. Here's my outbound eve settings:

Event Type: Semaphore
Shell: mutil mail.ini|fidopoll send|mutil mail.ini
Semaphore: echomail.out|netmail.out
Kill After: echomail.out|netmail.out

My mail.ini is set to export and import echomail, pack message bases, and messages.

I can send netmail and it seems to work because my AreaFixes have worked.

Quick update: It seems that I was wrong about netmail; it's not going out either.

Thanks for the help!
Andy

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Quick update: It seems that I was wrong about netmail; it's not going
out either.

What do the logs say? You should have a fidopoll.log (or poll.log if you're using the new MIS poll) and also a log of your export too.

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|03Quoting message from |11G00R00 |03to |11Andy Gorman
|03on |1107 Apr 21 12:19:14|03.

Quick update: It seems that I was wrong about netmail; it's not going out either.

What do the logs say? You should have a fidopoll.log (or poll.log if you'r using the new MIS poll) and also a log of your export too.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/04/01 (Windows/64)
* Origin: Sector 7 | Mystic WHQ (1:129/215)

From Poll.log (using MIS POLL)

+ 2021.04.07 14:45:13 Sending to all nodes of session type ALL
+ 2021.04.07 14:45:13 Node 1:229/426 has no outbound mail; skipping
+ 2021.04.07 14:45:13 Node 25/25:0 has no outbound mail; skipping
+ 2021.04.07 14:45:15 Poll 0 systems

From MUTIL

+ Apr 07 14:45:13 Startup using outbound_mail.ini
+ Apr 07 14:45:13 Process Echo Node Tracker
+ Apr 07 14:45:13 Results: 0 Reset, 0 Disabled, 0 Hold in 0.02s
+ Apr 07 14:45:13 Process: Exporting EchoMail
+ Apr 07 14:45:13 Waiting for BUSY nodes
+ Apr 07 14:45:13 Scanning...
+ Apr 07 14:45:13 1 msg from Netmail (FidoNet)
+ Apr 07 14:45:13 Results: 0 echo, 1 net, 0 skipped in 0.05s
+ Apr 07 14:45:13 Shutdown Normal (0)

It got packed but for some reason the poll never pulled it. I will try to upload the log file when I get home.

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*** Quoting Andy Gorman from a message to G00R00 ***

Quick update: It seems that I was wrong about netmail; it's not going out either.

What do you have setup in "Route Info" for 1:229/426?

Mine is setup like so:

Active | Yes
Description | Dark Realms
SysOp Name | Nick Andre
Address | 1:229/426
Domain | fidonet
Session Type | BinkP
Archive Type |
Export Type | Normal
Route Info | 1:* 2:* 3:* 4:*
Direct Bypass | No
Max PKT Size | 512
Max ARC Size | 2048
Use Filebox | No
Filebox Dir |
Crash Limiter | 0

This will tell Mystic to route any netmail for zones 1-4 through 1:229/426


Jay

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It got packed but for some reason the poll never pulled it. I will try
to upload the log file when I get home.

Have you tried to set the loglevel to 3? It might give you more detail.

Its hard to tell without seeing how you have your Netmail base setup (what do you have set for the network address) and also what do you have set for the "netmail route info" field in the node configuration for your FidoNet hub? You'll need to tell Mystic that echomail zones 1-4 goto your FidoNet hub. If its not set try setting it like "Route Info: 1:* 2:* 3:* 4:*" so that Mystic knows to send netmail for zones 1-4 to that system.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/04/01 (Windows/64)
* Origin: Sector 7 | Mystic WHQ (1:129/215)

Have you tried to set the loglevel to 3? It might give you more detail.

I will try that shortly.

You'll need to tell Mystic that echomail zones 1-4 goto your FidoNet hub. its not set try setting it like "Route Info: 1:* 2:* 3:* 4:*" so that Mysti knows to send netmail for zones 1-4 to that system.

I've got that setup just like you and Jay suggest. What I did notice is that MUTIL is not creating the packet when it scans. It updates the FLO file, but never creates that packet. Hopefully the logging will show something more.

On to the next piece.

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Re: Re: Echomail not sending
By: Andy Gorman to G00R00 on Thu Apr 08 2021 12:08 am

I've got that setup just like you and Jay suggest. What I did notice is that MUTIL is not creating the packet when it scans. It updates the FLO file, but never creates that packet. Hopefully the logging will show something more.

Double check you have zip installed. That happened to me before when I didn't have zip installed, installed zip and it worked after that.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Double check you have zip installed. That happened to me before when I didn have zip installed, installed zip and it worked after that.

Thanks Al. I confirmed that I have zip (even went and got info-zip), but seems like mutil isn't creating the actual packet file. I watched the process today and the pkt file wasn't created in the temputil folder (which is what Zip is looking for according to the logs).

I have my outbound mail ini set to ExportEchoMail = true and that's it. Here's the log details:

----------------- MUTIL v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 Thu, Apr 08 2021 (loglevel 3)
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Startup using outbound_mail.ini
- Apr 08 08:47:18 EXEC ExportEchoMail
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Process: Exporting EchoMail
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Waiting for BUSY nodes
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Scanning...
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Resuming from 7 in netmail
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Resuming from 4 in metronet
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Resuming from 1 in metgen
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Resuming from 3 in classic_computer
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Resuming from 3 in dbridge
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Resuming from 74 in cooking
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Resuming from 3 in fidonews
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Resuming from 87 in fido-req
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Resuming from 11 in fn_sysop
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Resuming from 50 in fidotest
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Export FIDOTEST #50 to 1:229/426@fidonet
- Apr 08 08:47:18 1 msgs from Fido Test
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Resuming from 110 in weather
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Resuming from 3 in fido_sysop
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Resuming from 15 in myst_bbs
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Resuming from 25 in nhl
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Resuming from 1 in pascal
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Resuming from 1 in renegade_bbs
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Resuming from 7 in tg_support
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Resuming from 1 in metbbs
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Resuming from 1 in METRGBBS
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Resuming from 1 in METINFO
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Resuming from 1 in METGAMES
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Resuming from 10 in METSYSOP
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Resuming from 1 in METRGBUG
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Resuming from 4 in 229426dbeat
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Resuming from 69 in 229426hbeat
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Resuming from 107 in 229426hstat
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Resuming from 8 in fidogazette
- Apr 08 08:47:18 EXEC: zip -qj9 c:\mystic\echomail\out\primary\ff1a0000.th2 c:\mystic\temputil\04f4fada.pkt 2>nul
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Adding PKT to FLO (addr=1:229/426 pkt=c:\mystic\echomail\out\primary\ff1a0000.th2 flo=c:\mystic\echomail\out\primary\00e501aa.flo)
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Results: 1 echo, 0 net, 0 skipped in 0.05s
+ Apr 08 08:47:18 Shutdown Normal (0)

Anyone have any thoughts?

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Double check you have zip installed. That happened to me before when I have zip installed, installed zip and it worked after that.

Thanks Al. I confirmed that I have zip (even went and got info-zip),
but seems like mutil isn't creating the actual packet file. I watched

Can you double check to make sure you have zip.exe in your c:\mystic folder specifically?

If I go into c:\mystic and type "zip" I get this (try it on your system too):

Copyright (C) 1990-1999 Info-ZIP
Type 'zip "-L"' for software license.
Zip 2.3 (November 29th 1999). Usage:
zip [-options] [-b path] [-t mmddyyyy] [-n suffixes] [zipfile list] [-xi list]

As far as not seeing any temp files: If you notice the timestamp it shows that MUTIL starts up, reads all configurations, and scans and exports every message in every base all within 1 second. The amount of time a temp file would exist would probably be in the low milliseconds so it'd be easy to miss (possibly would never even show if you're looking in something like Explorer).

Mystic gives errors when it has a problem within its own processes but it cannot give errors for what archive programs do, so this is the most likely case for you since there are no errors reported by Mystic itself.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/04/01 (Windows/64)
* Origin: Sector 7 | Mystic WHQ (1:129/215)

Thanks Al. I confirmed that I have zip (even went and got info-zip),

Hi Andy,

I just finished updating the latest A47 so that when log level is set to debug it will try to read a result back from the operating system when executing an archiver during echomail import/export. It might come in handy in situations where an archive wasn't found or isnt installed correctly or something along those lines.

We'll get you sorted out here soon!

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/04/08 (Windows/64)
* Origin: Sector 7 | Mystic WHQ (1:129/215)

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|03on |1108 Apr 21 18:47:05|03.

Thanks Al. I confirmed that I have zip (even went and got info-zip),

Hi Andy,

I just finished updating the latest A47 so that when log level is set to de it will try to read a result back from the operating system when executing archiver during echomail import/export. It might come in handy in situatio where an archive wasn't found or isnt installed correctly or something alon those lines.

We'll get you sorted out here soon!

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/04/08 (Windows/64)
* Origin: Sector 7 | Mystic WHQ (1:129/215)

Hi G00R00,

The system is packaging them up and sending them, so that's good. I'm working with my Boss to determine why my messages aren't being forwarded on.

Where can I get the A47 version of Mystic?

Thanks,
Andy

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*** Quoting Andy Gorman from a message to G00R00 ***

Where can I get the A47 version of Mystic?

http://mysticbbs.com/downloads/prealpha/


Jay

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