Greetings All,

I finally figured out how to get the email validation to start (my ignorance, no issues with mystic) I also succesfully got it to send messages! Thats a victory right there.. So I created a test user, and mystic sent the email
and validated that user to 20 which is what I wanted. However when I log in
it asks me to validate? Is there a spot where I can say if user is >10 dont ask to validate? I probably missed it when someone explained to me.

Regards,

Rick

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wanted. However when I log in it asks me to validate? Is there a spot where I can say if user is >10 dont ask to validate? I probably missed
it when someone explained to me.

The validation can be used in many ways, so without having more information on how you have it setup its difficult to give you an exact answer. You can set the security level of a menu command to only work on lower security levels.
For example setting it to "!s20" means that it'd only work on security levels below 20.

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The validation can be used in many ways, so without having more information on how you have it setup its difficult to give you an exact answer. You can set the security level of a menu command to only work
on lower security levels. For example setting it to "!s20" means that

OK here is what I have, its just a copy and paste out of the actual file as I have not figured out how to put screen shots in messages yet. This is after
I added the !s20 so untested, just seeing if how I have it would work in theory?

GD
!OI|!s20
Validate
0


-Y
!OV|!s20
|CR Validate email address now?
0


-V
!OV
20
0
Regards,
Rick

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Re: Re: Email Validate
By: Rick Smith to g00r00 on Tue Mar 24 2020 22:27:25

I have not figured out how to put screen shots in messages yet.

you copy and paste the text of the screen just like you did the contents of the
file... you might have to paste it, first, into a text editor to trim down if there's only a certain section you want to post...


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-Y
!OV|!s20
|CR Validate email address now?

-V
!OV
20

Okay so it looks like you want to ask the question "Validate e-mail now?" if they have less than security level 20? You are on the right path!

Try this:

Command: -Y (Ask Yes/No Question)
Access: !OV|!s20
Data: |CRValidate e-mail address now?

Command: -V (Validate e-mail address)
Access: OK(!OV|!s20)
Data: 20

I haven't tested this but the first one only asks if they are not validated
or they have less than security 20.

The second one adds the "OK" ACS which basically means only run if they answered Yes. So it should run only when they answered Yes AND either unvalidated e-mail or security less than 20.

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Try this:

Command: -Y (Ask Yes/No Question)
Access: !OV|!s20
Data: |CRValidate e-mail address now?

This one didnt work at first but when I changed the access to !s20|!OV it did.

The second one adds the "OK" ACS which basically means only run if they answered Yes. So it should run only when they answered Yes AND either unvalidated e-mail or security less than 20.

So when testing I was giving user (this one I responding with) s20 but a
bogus validated date and it was still firing the validator, and wouldnt let
me say 'No' at the prompt, but your saying it is meant to run for either unvalidated e-mail or less than 20? So my testing is the best way about it,
I guess ill just let it fly as it seems to be working to validate, very fast
I might add, email arrives in seconds.

Ok Ill let this go for now and just keep an eye on it, thank you so much to
you and everyone for their help.

JCase (Rick Smith)

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let me say 'No' at the prompt, but your saying it is meant to run for either unvalidated e-mail or less than 20? So my testing is the best

Its meant to run however you want it to :) There reason I was using those access codes is because it looked like you were trying to do something that made it ask if they were not validated despite their security level.

If you want it to be just security level based change it to "!s20" and
"OK!s20" for the two commands.

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If you want it to be just security level based change it to "!s20" and "OK!s20" for the two commands.

I think ive got it squared away, thank you for your help! I have another question if your dont mind? At login is it possible to bypass the mail screen if you dont have any new or unread messages?

Regards,

Rick

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Greetings All!

I recently noticed that my email validation no longer works.. Ive not changed anything so is it broken does anyone know? I am on the latest prealpha that did not fix it.. I run it in the prelogin menu




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Rick Smith (Nitro)

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I recently noticed that my email validation no longer works.. Ive not changed anything so is it broken does anyone know? I am on the latest prealpha that did not fix it.. I run it in the prelogin menu

There isn't enough information here for me to help you but I can ask some questions. What is it doing? Do you have it enabled in the configuration? Is the user you're trying to validate a user that has a valid e-mail address? What do the logs say?

The logs are pretty descriptive for the validation stuff assuming you have it enabled and the user has a valid e-mail.

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Greetings g00r00!

Thursday August 12 2021 16:58, you wrote to me about an urgent matter!:

* Forwarded from area 'MYSTIC'

I recently noticed that my email validation no longer works.. Ive
not changed anything so is it broken does anyone know? I am on
the latest prealpha that did not fix it.. I run it in the
prelogin menu

There isn't enough information here for me to help you but I can ask
some questions. What is it doing? Do you have it enabled in the configuration? Is the user you're trying to validate a user that has a valid e-mail address? What do the logs say?

The logs are pretty descriptive for the validation stuff assuming you
have it enabled and the user has a valid e-mail.

I am testing with my email once I leaned it was suddenly not working. So email is valid.. Could you point me to the validation log? Been hunting for it with no luck..



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Rick Smith (Nitro)

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Greetings g00r00!

Thursday August 12 2021 16:58, you wrote to me about an urgent matter!:

* Forwarded from area 'MYSTIC'

I recently noticed that my email validation no longer works.. Ive
not changed anything so is it broken does anyone know? I am on
the latest prealpha that did not fix it.. I run it in the
prelogin menu

this is all I could find

2021.07.08 22:23:59 MYSTIC 001 Could not authenticate to SMTP server
9 2021.11.08 08:14:46 MYSTIC 001 Could not authenticate to SMTP server
10 2021.11.08 08:22:40 MYSTIC 001 Could not authenticate to SMTP server
11 2021.11.08 08:25:49 MYSTIC 001 Could not authenticate to SMTP server
12 2021.11.08 22:17:22 MYSTIC 001 Could not connect to SMTP server
13 2021.11.08 22:19:36 MYSTIC 001 Could not connect to SMTP server
14 2021.12.08 10:24:16 MYSTIC 001 Could not connect to SMTP server
15 2021.12.08 10:25:45 MYSTIC 001 Could not connect to SMTP server
16 2021.12.08 10:27:50 MYSTIC 001 Could not connect to SMTP server

every other server and service that hits that smtp server validates and sends the message so I am not sure why this bbs stopped working.


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Rick Smith (Nitro)

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11 2021.11.08 08:25:49 MYSTIC 001 Could not authenticate to SMTP server
12 2021.11.08 22:17:22 MYSTIC 001 Could not connect to SMTP server

every other server and service that hits that smtp server validates and sends the message so I am not sure why this bbs stopped working.

Have you double checked your SMTP settings in Config > Servers > General?

It should not be possible for it to say "Could not athenticate" without showing the raw communication with the SMTP server in your node log (unless your settings are somehow wrong/corrupt).

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Greetings g00r00!

Thursday August 12 2021 21:26, you wrote to me about an urgent matter!:

* Forwarded from area 'MYSTIC'

11 2021.11.08 08:25:49 MYSTIC 001 Could not authenticate to SMTP
server 12 2021.11.08 22:17:22 MYSTIC 001 Could not connect to
SMTP server

every other server and service that hits that smtp server
validates and sends the message so I am not sure why this bbs
stopped working.

Have you double checked your SMTP settings in Config > Servers >
General?

It should not be possible for it to say "Could not athenticate"
without showing the raw communication with the SMTP server in your
node log (unless your settings are somehow wrong/corrupt).

Ill have a look at it again, but ive made no changes to it and it went from working just fine to "unable to send email" when selecting yes to validate



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Regards,


Rick Smith (Nitro)

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Greetings g00r00!

Thursday August 12 2021 21:26, you wrote to me about an urgent matter!:

* Forwarded from area 'MYSTIC'

11 2021.11.08 08:25:49 MYSTIC 001 Could not authenticate to SMTP
server 12 2021.11.08 22:17:22 MYSTIC 001 Could not connect to

I was able to find this in nodelog not sure if it helps or not.

2021.08.12 13:40:02 test logged in
2021.08.12 13:40:02 Set time left 52 TE=872
2021.08.12 13:40:02 Setting time left to 52
2021.08.12 13:40:04 SMTP R:220 mail.ovlab.us ESMTP Postfix
2021.08.12 13:40:04 SMTP S:EHLO abon.us
2021.08.12 13:40:04 SMTP R:250-mail.ovlab.us
2021.08.12 13:40:04 SMTP R:250-PIPELINING
2021.08.12 13:40:04 SMTP R:250-SIZE 15728640
2021.08.12 13:40:04 SMTP R:250-ETRN
2021.08.12 13:40:04 SMTP R:250-STARTTLS
2021.08.12 13:40:04 SMTP R:250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
2021.08.12 13:40:04 SMTP R:250-8BITMIME
2021.08.12 13:40:04 SMTP R:250-DSN
2021.08.12 13:40:04 SMTP R:250-SMTPUTF8
2021.08.12 13:40:04 SMTP R:250 CHUNKING
2021.08.12 13:40:04 SMTP S:AUTH LOGIN
2021.08.12 13:40:04 SMTP R:530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first



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Rick Smith (Nitro)

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I was able to find this in nodelog not sure if it helps or not.

2021.08.12 13:40:04 SMTP R:530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first

Your connection requires TLS. Check to make sure you have Configuration > Servers > General > SMTP Use SSL/TLS set to "Yes".

... If you can't make it good, make it LOOK good. -Bill Gates.

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Greetings g00r00!

Friday August 13 2021 04:58, you wrote to me about an urgent matter!:

* Forwarded from area 'MYSTIC'

I was able to find this in nodelog not sure if it helps or not.

2021.08.12 13:40:04 SMTP R:530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS
command first

Your connection requires TLS. Check to make sure you have
Configuration > Servers > General > SMTP Use SSL/TLS set to "Yes".

I have tried all variations in there, I actually am using port 587 so need starttls is there an option in there for that? or is that the option your talking about? If so I have had it on/off/forced with every auth method login/plain/cram/none and have not been able to get it to connect. When it was working is was set to login/ssl set to yes.


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Rick Smith (Nitro)

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Your connection requires TLS. Check to make sure you have Configuration > Servers > General > SMTP Use SSL/TLS set to "Yes".

I have tried all variations in there, I actually am using port 587 so
need starttls is there an option in there for that? or is that the

Yes note the location in the quote above you have to set "Use SSL/TLS" to Yes in the SMTP settings to enable TLS. You also need to have your cryptlib installed and of course your other SMTP settings would be needed as well.

The log says you don't have TLS enabled so you either don't have that set to properly or there is no cryptlib.

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Greetings g00r00!

Friday August 13 2021 10:31, you wrote to me about an urgent matter!:

Your connection requires TLS. Check to make sure you have
Configuration > Servers > General > SMTP Use SSL/TLS set to

Yes note the location in the quote above you have to set "Use SSL/TLS"
to Yes in the SMTP settings to enable TLS. You also need to have your cryptlib installed and of course your other SMTP settings would be
needed as well.

OK I put it back to my original settings and is working again...? weird but thank you for the your assistance...


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Rick Smith (Nitro)

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Yes note the location in the quote above you have to set "Use SSL/TLS to Yes in the SMTP settings to enable TLS. You also need to have you cryptlib installed and of course your other SMTP settings would be needed as well.

OK I put it back to my original settings and is working again...? weird but thank you for the your assistance...

Great to hear thanks for the update.

Sometimes its easy to accidentally switch off one of those settings when you are browsing around the configuration so maybe that happened. Or who knows maybe something happened with the upgrade that reset the setting? Either way glad its working now!

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