• tutanota/protonmail/gmail compared

    From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to All on Fri Jun 25 23:01:00 2021
    Hello All!

    Interesting comparison --

    https://tweaklibrary.com/tutanota-vs-protonmail-vs-gmail/

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to August Abolins on Sat Jun 26 11:06:19 2021
    Hi August,

    On 2021-06-25 23:01:00, you wrote to All:

    Interesting comparison --

    https://tweaklibrary.com/tutanota-vs-protonmail-vs-gmail/

    Yes interesting! I never heard of the other two before (beside gmail). Although I value my privacy, I'm not going to switch, too much work... ;)

    But good to know there are alternatives for gmail.

    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.2 to Wilfred van Velzen on Sat Jun 26 10:45:37 2021
    https://tweaklibrary.com/tutanota-vs-protonmail-vs-gmail/

    Yes interesting! I never heard of the other two before (beside gmail). Although I value my privacy, I'm not going to switch, too much work... ;)

    I too thought that adding Gmail into the discussion was weird and not a valid comparison to the other "secure" systems. But the inclusion is educational.

    Tutanota was a new one for me, only a few months ago. It's 1GB space vs Protonmail's 500MB is pretty good. I've been with Protonmail for at least 6 years now, and have 25GB used space, primarily due to the Sent folder keeping copies I probably no longer need.

    No need to switch.. just try to embrace the alternative gradually.


    But good to know there are alternatives for gmail.

    The inventor of Protonmail has a short TedTalk about it. Again, some comparisons to the non-secure systems were made.
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  • From August Abolins@1:124/5016 to Wilfred van Velzen on Fri Dec 3 20:00:27 2021
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    On 6/26/2021 5:06 AM, between "Wilfred van Velzen":

    Interesting comparison --

    https://tweaklibrary.com/tutanota-vs-protonmail-vs-gmail/

    Yes interesting! I never heard of the other two before (beside
    gmail). Although I value my privacy, I'm not going to switch, too
    much work... ;)

    But good to know there are alternatives for gmail.

    A few weeks ago I learned about FlowCrypt (Firefox plugin) which is designed to provide an encrypted interface with Gmail. Have you tried that?

    Remind me, how do you integrate gpg with your gmail? Do you fetch the messages into a local email program?

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/6 to August Abolins on Sat Dec 4 08:05:20 2021
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    August Abolins wrote:

    Remind me, how do you integrate gpg with your gmail? Do you fetch
    the messages into a local email program?

    I try to avoid gmail. :)

    But internal OpenPGP support in Thunderbird v91 works as well as with
    any mail provider.

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to August Abolins on Sat Dec 4 11:25:37 2021
    Hi August,

    On 2021-12-03 20:00:27, you wrote to me:

    Interesting comparison --

    https://tweaklibrary.com/tutanota-vs-protonmail-vs-gmail/

    Yes interesting! I never heard of the other two before (beside
    gmail). Although I value my privacy, I'm not going to switch, too
    much work... ;)

    But good to know there are alternatives for gmail.

    A few weeks ago I learned about FlowCrypt (Firefox plugin) which is designed to provide an encrypted interface with Gmail. Have you tried that?

    No.

    Remind me, how do you integrate gpg with your gmail? Do you fetch the messages into a local email program?

    Thunderbird

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    Your signature is double spaced, and I get this when I try to check it:

    gpg: Signature made za 04 dec 2021 02:00:22 CET using RSA key ID 5789589B
    gpg: WARNING: signature digest conflict in message
    gpg: Can't check signature: General error

    Btw: Tommy's signature verify's fine.


    Bye, Wilfred.
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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Wilfred van Velzen on Sat Dec 4 09:17:00 2021
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    Hello Wilfred van Velzen!

    ** On Saturday 04.12.21 - 11:25, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to August Abolins:

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    Your signature is double spaced, and I get this when I try to check it:

    gpg: Signature made za 04 dec 2021 02:00:22 CET using RSA key ID
    5789589B gpg: WARNING: signature digest conflict in message
    gpg: Can't check signature: General error


    How about this one when I post from OpenXP?

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to August Abolins on Sat Dec 4 17:01:03 2021
    Hi August,

    On 2021-12-04 09:17:00, you wrote to me:

    Your signature is double spaced, and I get this when I try to check
    it:

    gpg: Signature made za 04 dec 2021 02:00:22 CET using RSA key ID
    5789589B gpg: WARNING: signature digest conflict in message
    gpg: Can't check signature: General error


    How about this one when I post from OpenXP?

    Yes this one is fine. No double spacing and good result:

    gpg: Signature made za 04 dec 2021 15:17:40 CET using RSA key ID 5789589B
    gpg: Good signature from "August Abolins <august@kolico.ca>" [full]
    gpg: aka "August Abolins <august@R_E_M_O_V_Ekolico.ca>" [unknown]
    gpg: aka "August Abolins <august@ashlies.ca>" [unknown]

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    Bye, Wilfred.
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