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    From zeneca@3:770/3 to All on Tue Jul 13 15:54:15 2021
    The previous problem is fixed I replaced the driver 8188eu.OK But
    when I reboot the address on the wlan0 is 192.168.0.17 outside my
    network 192.168.0.xx
    I can't figure out where that com from?
    I can change the address manually (ifconfig wlan0 192.xxx) and it stay,
    but if I reboot.
    Many thanks in advances
    BTW I am retired (since 2008 )-
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  • From zeneca@3:770/3 to All on Tue Jul 13 17:02:18 2021
    Le 13/07/2021 à 15:54, zeneca a écrit :
    The previous problem is fixed I replaced the driver 8188eu.OK But
    when I reboot the address on the wlan0 is 196.xx.254.27 outside my
    network 192.168.0.xx
    I can't figure out where that com from?
    I can change the address manually (ifconfig wlan0 192.xxx) and it stay,
    but if I reboot.
    Many thanks in advances
    BTW I am retired (since 2008 )-
    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
  • From Brian Gregory@3:770/3 to zeneca on Tue Jul 13 16:47:25 2021
    On 13/07/2021 16:02, zeneca wrote:
    Le 13/07/2021 à 15:54, zeneca a écrit :
    The previous problem is fixed I replaced the driver 8188eu.OK But
    when I reboot the address on the wlan0 is 196.xx.254.27 outside my
    network 192.168.0.xx
    I can't figure out where that com from?
    I can change the address manually (ifconfig wlan0 192.xxx) and it
    stay, but if I reboot.
    Many thanks in advances
    BTW I am retired (since 2008 )-


    Bit muddled there.

    Could it be a link local address?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link-local_address

    For IPv4 they're kind of allocated by default when there is no reason to assigned any particular address.

    --
    Brian Gregory (in England).
    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
  • From Tauno Voipio@3:770/3 to zeneca on Tue Jul 13 19:54:59 2021
    On 13.7.21 18.02, zeneca wrote:
    Le 13/07/2021 à 15:54, zeneca a écrit :
    The previous problem is fixed I replaced the driver 8188eu.OK But
    when I reboot the address on the wlan0 is 196.xx.254.27 outside my
    network 192.168.0.xx
    I can't figure out where that com from?
    I can change the address manually (ifconfig wlan0 192.xxx) and it
    stay, but if I reboot.
    Many thanks in advances
    BTW I am retired (since 2008 )-


    It seems to me that it is your IP address toward the outside
    Internet. You cannot go there using the RFC1918 addresses.

    Your internal network (192.168.xx.yy) belongs to a RFC1918
    private address group.

    My guess is that the address is assigned byu DHCP from your
    service provider.

    --

    -TV
    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
  • From Martin Gregorie@3:770/3 to Tauno Voipio on Tue Jul 13 18:09:20 2021
    On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 19:54:59 +0300, Tauno Voipio wrote:

    On 13.7.21 18.02, zeneca wrote:
    Le 13/07/2021 à 15:54, zeneca a écrit :
    The previous problem is fixed I replaced the driver 8188eu.OK But when
    I reboot the address on the wlan0 is 196.xx.254.27 outside my network
    192.168.0.xx I can't figure out where that com from?
    I can change the address manually (ifconfig wlan0 192.xxx) and it
    stay, but if I reboot.
    Many thanks in advances BTW I am retired (since 2008 )-


    It seems to me that it is your IP address toward the outside Internet.
    You cannot go there using the RFC1918 addresses.

    Your internal network (192.168.xx.yy) belongs to a RFC1918 private
    address group.

    My guess is that the address is assigned byu DHCP from your service
    provider.

    ... its normal for an ISP to set the address used to contact whatever
    device i.e. firewall or ADSL front end that talks directly to your ISP,
    but I've never heard of an ISP setting an RFC1918 address, which is, or
    should be, on the *inside* of your gateway device and set by yourself
    using an internal connection to it.

    My setup works that way: the only difference is that my ISP owns a block
    of IP addresses and so was able to assign a static external address to my
    ADSL router, which is connected over a PSTN copper cable. Internally,
    I've assigned static RFC1918 addresses to the devices on the inside, on
    the same subnet (192.168.7.*), which therefore interconnects my ADSL router/firewall, computers, internet Radio box and printer. These are all linked using a switch box and CAT5 cable.

    Since your system sounds to be somewhat different to mine, it would help
    if you describe:
    - the connection between ISP and your house and what type of connection
    it is: copper (ADSL), FTTC, FTTP, wifi,...
    - what device terminates that link at your end
    - and how you've configured the computers, printers etc inside your
    house.
    - the network inside your house (IPV4 or IPV6, wifi or cable).
    - since you seem to have been running ok on IPV4, why you're playing
    with IPV6


    --
    Martin | martin at
    Gregorie | gregorie dot org
    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
  • From NY@3:770/3 to Martin Gregorie on Tue Jul 13 19:28:04 2021
    "Martin Gregorie" <martin@mydomain.invalid> wrote in message news:sckksg$3te$1@dont-email.me...
    On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 19:54:59 +0300, Tauno Voipio wrote:

    On 13.7.21 18.02, zeneca wrote:
    Le 13/07/2021 à 15:54, zeneca a écrit :
    The previous problem is fixed I replaced the driver 8188eu.OK But when >>>> I reboot the address on the wlan0 is 196.xx.254.27 outside my network
    192.168.0.xx I can't figure out where that com from?
    I can change the address manually (ifconfig wlan0 192.xxx) and it
    stay, but if I reboot.
    Many thanks in advances BTW I am retired (since 2008 )-


    It seems to me that it is your IP address toward the outside Internet.
    You cannot go there using the RFC1918 addresses.

    Your internal network (192.168.xx.yy) belongs to a RFC1918 private
    address group.

    Your router should be giving your Pi (and all other computers on your local network, whether connected by wifi or Ethernet) addresses of the form 192.168.x.y. If your Pi is not getting a 192.168.x.y address, something is wrong.

    You could use a site such as https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2 "Shields
    Up Probe My Ports" which will tell you your router's WAN (public internet) address - look for the text "If several of the numbers from your current IP address" on the page.

    I wonder if that address is 196.x.254.27 or similar.

    That will show whether your Pi is somehow being given a public address
    instead of a private LAN address.


    Check also that the Pi is definitely connecting to your own router's wifi network and not to a neighbour's.

    Also, if you can, connect the Pi by Ethernet to the router (you may need to disable wlan) and see if the same thing happens.
    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Ahem A Rivet's Shot@3:770/3 to Martin Gregorie on Tue Jul 13 20:58:12 2021
    On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 18:09:20 -0000 (UTC)
    Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> wrote:

    ... its normal for an ISP to set the address used to contact whatever
    device i.e. firewall or ADSL front end that talks directly to your ISP,
    but I've never heard of an ISP setting an RFC1918 address, which is, or should be, on the *inside* of your gateway device and set by yourself
    using an internal connection to it.

    Some ISPs operate an RFC-1918 network for their customers and use
    NAT to map it onto a much smaller range of real IP addresses - "carrier
    grade NAT" they call it. Then you run NAT on your boundary router and you
    can forget about anything coming in.

    --
    Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:\>WIN | A better way to focus the sun
    The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see
    You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/
    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
  • From druck@3:770/3 to All on Tue Jul 13 21:20:20 2021
    On 13/07/2021 19:28, NY wrote:
    You could use a site such as https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
    "Shields Up Probe My Ports" which will tell you your router's WAN
    (public internet) address - look for the text "If several of the numbers
    from your current IP address" on the page.

    Just type "whats my ip" in to google.

    ---druck
    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
  • From NY@3:770/3 to druck on Tue Jul 13 21:57:34 2021
    "druck" <news@druck.org.uk> wrote in message
    news:scksi8$dfv$1@dont-email.me...
    On 13/07/2021 19:28, NY wrote:
    You could use a site such as https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
    "Shields Up Probe My Ports" which will tell you your router's WAN (public
    internet) address - look for the text "If several of the numbers from
    your current IP address" on the page.

    Just type "whats my ip" in to google.

    Ah! I've learned something. Much easier than what I was suggesting.
    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
  • From Theo@3:770/3 to Brian Gregory on Tue Jul 13 23:42:28 2021
    Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote:
    On 13/07/2021 16:02, zeneca wrote:
    Le 13/07/2021 à 15:54, zeneca a écrit :
    The previous problem is fixed I replaced the driver 8188eu.OK But
    when I reboot the address on the wlan0 is 196.xx.254.27 outside my
    network 192.168.0.xx

    Bit muddled there.

    Could it be a link local address?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link-local_address

    For IPv4 they're kind of allocated by default when there is no reason to assigned any particular address.

    If it was 169.254.xx.xx that would be a link-local address. Perhaps that's
    a typo by the OP?

    Theo
    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
  • From Martin Gregorie@3:770/3 to All on Tue Jul 13 23:39:31 2021
    On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 21:57:34 +0100, NY wrote:

    "druck" <news@druck.org.uk> wrote in message news:scksi8$dfv$1@dont-email.me...
    On 13/07/2021 19:28, NY wrote:
    You could use a site such as https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
    "Shields Up Probe My Ports" which will tell you your router's WAN
    (public internet) address - look for the text "If several of the
    numbers from your current IP address" on the page.

    Just type "whats my ip" in to google.

    Ah! I've learned something. Much easier than what I was suggesting.

    Me also. I've also found that "whats my ip" also works with Brave 1.26.74
    + Duck Duck Go search engine and Firefox 89 + IXQuick search engine.
    System system upgraded to Fedora 34 last Saturday, so these are current
    web browser versions.

    Ars Technica reported on Firefox 90 today, and like it, so maybe next
    week...


    --
    Martin | martin at
    Gregorie | gregorie dot org
    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
  • From Pancho@3:770/3 to Martin Gregorie on Wed Jul 14 08:30:43 2021
    On 14/07/2021 00:39, Martin Gregorie wrote:
    On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 21:57:34 +0100, NY wrote:

    "druck" <news@druck.org.uk> wrote in message
    news:scksi8$dfv$1@dont-email.me...
    On 13/07/2021 19:28, NY wrote:
    You could use a site such as https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
    "Shields Up Probe My Ports" which will tell you your router's WAN
    (public internet) address - look for the text "If several of the
    numbers from your current IP address" on the page.

    Just type "whats my ip" in to google.

    Ah! I've learned something. Much easier than what I was suggesting.

    Me also. I've also found that "whats my ip" also works with Brave 1.26.74
    + Duck Duck Go search engine and Firefox 89 + IXQuick search engine.
    System system upgraded to Fedora 34 last Saturday, so these are current
    web browser versions.

    Ars Technica reported on Firefox 90 today, and like it, so maybe next
    week...


    For server installs:

    curl ifconfig.co

    For ipv6 dual stack:

    curl -4 ifconfig.co
    curl -6 ifconfig.co
    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)