Is there an option for moving an email message in webv4 labelled as spam to inbox? if not, could there be? :)

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Re: webv4 smtp spam
By: Mortifis to All on Mon Oct 12 2020 12:57:24

Is there an option for moving an email message in webv4 labelled as spam to
inbox? if not, could there be? :)

There probably could be, but it would involve rewriting portions of the message header.

Currently, a message is considered spam (for web view purposes) if:

- The header has the MSG_SPAM attribute
- The subject begins with SPAM:

I don't know why I felt the latter was necessary, but I suspect it means I need to tweak some of my mail and spam settings.

To 'move' a message from Spam to Inbox, the MSG_SPAM attribute would need to be unset in the message header, and the header rewritten to the message base. Also the SPAM: tag would need to be stripped from the subject. On subsequent views, it would no longer appear under the Spam tab.

That's all pretty easy to achieve, but I'll wait to see if DM has any comments before I do anything.

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Re: webv4 smtp spam
By: Mortifis to All on Mon Oct 12 2020 12:57:24

Is there an option for moving an email message in webv4 labelled as spam to
inbox? if not, could there be? :)

There probably could be, but it would involve rewriting portions of the message header.

Currently, a message is considered spam (for web view purposes) if:

- The header has the MSG_SPAM attribute
- The subject begins with SPAM:

I don't know why I felt the latter was necessary, but I suspect it means I need to tweak some of my mail and spam settings.

To 'move' a message from Spam to Inbox, the MSG_SPAM attribute would need to be unset in the message header, and the header rewritten to the message base. Also the SPAM: tag would need to be stripped from the subject. On subsequent views, it would no longer appear under the Spam tab.

That's all pretty easy to achieve, but I'll wait to see if DM has any comments before I do anything.

Seems like a lot of effort, unless using webv4 as a preferred interface with the BBS is a common method. I appreciate the consideration.

~Mortifis

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Re: webv4 smtp spam
By: echicken to Mortifis on Mon Oct 12 2020 01:51 pm

Re: webv4 smtp spam
By: Mortifis to All on Mon Oct 12 2020 12:57:24

Is there an option for moving an email message in webv4 labelled as spam to
inbox? if not, could there be? :)

There probably could be, but it would involve rewriting portions of the message header.

Currently, a message is considered spam (for web view purposes) if:

- The header has the MSG_SPAM attribute
- The subject begins with SPAM:

I don't know why I felt the latter was necessary, but I suspect it means I need to tweak some of my mail and spam settings.

To 'move' a message from Spam to Inbox, the MSG_SPAM attribute would need to be unset in the message header, and the header rewritten to the message base. Also the SPAM: tag would need to be stripped from the subject. On subsequent views, it would no longer appear under the Spam tab.

That's all pretty easy to achieve, but I'll wait to see if DM has any comments before I do anything.

Seems fine to me. You should be able to remove the "SPAM:" string search since the addition of the MSG_SPAM attribute flag.

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Re: Re: webv4 smtp spam
By: Mortifis to echicken on Mon Oct 12 2020 16:23:55

Seems like a lot of effort, unless using webv4 as a preferred interface with
the BBS is a common method. I appreciate the consideration.

Marking something as "not spam" is a pretty common feature of mail readers, so it's probably worth adding. (This would however only de-spam that one message and "move" it to your inbox. Nothing would be "learned" to prevent similar messages (same sender, etc.) from being marked as spam.)

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Re: Re: webv4 smtp spam
By: Mortifis to echicken on Mon Oct 12 2020 16:23:55

Seems like a lot of effort, unless using webv4 as a preferred interface with
the BBS is a common method. I appreciate the consideration.

Marking something as "not spam" is a pretty common feature of mail readers, so it's probably worth adding. (This would however only de-spam that one message and "move" it to your inbox. Nothing would be "learned" to prevent similar messages (same sender, etc.) from being marked as spam.)

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de-spamming one message at a time is fine, I blew up a message trying to change headers and stuff because I have no idea what I am doing :-/

One thought about 'learning' ... perhaps if a message is marked as 'not spam' the sender's info can be auto-added to dnsbl_exempt.cfg in the process? Okay, now I am over-stepping, sorry :)

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Re: Re: webv4 smtp spam
By: Mortifis to echicken on Tue Oct 13 2020 08:27:29

One thought about 'learning' ... perhaps if a message is marked as 'not spam'
the sender's info can be auto-added to dnsbl_exempt.cfg in the process? Okay,
now I am over-stepping, sorry :)

That's one of the things I was thinking about. You might want that to be a sysop-only feature though, since that list is system-wide.

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Re: Re: webv4 smtp spam
By: Mortifis to echicken on Tue Oct 13 2020 08:27:29

One thought about 'learning' ... perhaps if a message is marked as 'not spam'
the sender's info can be auto-added to dnsbl_exempt.cfg in the process? Okay,
now I am over-stepping, sorry :)

That's one of the things I was thinking about. You might want that to be a sysop-only feature though, since that list is system-wide.

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That sounds reasonable, perhaps something like if sysop add to dnsbl_exempt.cfg else "would you like like to inform system.operator msg sender is not a spammer" checkbox type thingy, which, if yes, sends msg info to sysop? Ah, but that opens a new can of gummy worms and not even the good kind <wink> ... sysop reading user's email msgs in webv4 hmmm ... :/

I appreciate the consideration, I know not many SysOps or lusrs use webv4, but, I do :-P

~Mortifis

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Re: Re: webv4 smtp spam
By: Mortifis to echicken on Tue Oct 13 2020 08:27 am

de-spamming one message at a time is fine, I blew up a message trying to cha headers and stuff because I have no idea what I am doing :-/

Between the two of us we can "blow up" the entire synchronet wiki I'd imagine? lol
Regards, Havens BBS
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Re: Re: webv4 smtp spam
By: Mortifis
to echicken on Tue Oct 13
2020 08:27 am

de-spamming one message at a time is fine, I blew up

a message trying to cha

headers and stuff because I have no idea what I am doing :-/

Between the two of us we can "blow up" the entire synchronet
wiki I'd imagine? lol
Regards,
Havens BBS
HusTler
(havens.synchro.net:23)

This is what your messages look like now here in Dovenet. I saw
you fixed it in Micronet... perhaps do the same thing here?



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Re: Re: webv4 smtp spam
By: Gamgee to HusTler on Tue Oct 13 2020 07:57 pm

This is what your messages look like now here in Dovenet. I saw > you fixed it in Micronet... perhaps do the same thing here? How does this look??HusTlerRegards, Havens BBS

HusTler (havens.synchro.net:23)

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Re: Re: webv4 smtp spam
By: Gamgee to HusTler on Tue Oct 13 2020 07:57 pm

This is what your messages look like now here in Dovenet. I saw
you fixed it in Micronet... perhaps do the same thing here?

How does this look??

HusTler
Regards,
Havens BBS
HusTler
(havens.synchro.net:23)

Much better. Thanks.



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