I would like to thank you all for helping me as I figure this out. Sadly this is my 3rd attempt at this posting thanks to Comed so it has been shortened but hopefully still
good.

When you setup a new Message network (in my case adding FSXNET), using ECHOCFG > domain > fsxnet
I tell it where the nodelist is. /sbbs/fsxnet/FSX
and I changed it to leenooks.net for the dns suffix (as it looks like they are using that for FTN lookups)

Then I add the linked node 21:xxx/xxx and give it all the details
Address: {hub}
domain: fsxnet
passwords: Session etc
Local AKA (network assigned)

Oct 13 16:17:03 bbs synchronet: evnt BINKPOLL Attempting poll for node 21:3/100@fsxnet
Oct 13 16:17:03 bbs synchronet: evnt BINKPOLL JSBinkP/1.123 callout to 21:3/100@fsxnet started
Oct 13 16:17:03 bbs synchronet: evnt BINKPOLL Connecting to 21:3/100@fsxnet at f100.n3.z21.leenooks.net:24554
Oct 13 16:17:03 bbs synchronet: evnt BINKPOLL Connection to f100.n3.z21.leenooks.net:24554 failed (Error: Name or service not known).

Per my HUB info n3.z21.leenooks.net:24554 is correct.. So is there a way to get the f100 off or do I really just need to go in and set the BinkP Host settings manually?

Just to ensure that I was connecting and getting mail I already set the Host but really want to understand how the FTN lookups work or is it just Fido that works?




Jeff Bodenstein
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Re: Nodelist FTN Help
By: pcmedtek to All on Tue Oct 13 2020 04:30 pm

I would like to thank you all for helping me as I figure this out. Sadly this is my 3rd attempt at this posting thanks to Comed so it has been shortened but hopefully still
good.

When you setup a new Message network (in my case adding FSXNET), using ECHOCFG

domain > fsxnet

I tell it where the nodelist is. /sbbs/fsxnet/FSX
and I changed it to leenooks.net for the dns suffix (as it looks like they are using that for FTN lookups)

My information says they're using fsxnet.nz for DNS-based address look-ups (not leenooks.net).

If you use the ftp-setup.js/init-fidonet.js method of fsxNet setup, it should take care of all that for you.

Then I add the linked node 21:xxx/xxx and give it all the details
Address: {hub}
domain: fsxnet
passwords: Session etc
Local AKA (network assigned)

Oct 13 16:17:03 bbs synchronet: evnt BINKPOLL Attempting poll for node 21:3/100@fsxnet
Oct 13 16:17:03 bbs synchronet: evnt BINKPOLL JSBinkP/1.123 callout to 21:3/100@fsxnet started
Oct 13 16:17:03 bbs synchronet: evnt BINKPOLL Connecting to 21:3/100@fsxnet at f100.n3.z21.leenooks.net:24554
Oct 13 16:17:03 bbs synchronet: evnt BINKPOLL Connection to f100.n3.z21.leenooks.net:24554 failed (Error: Name or service not known).

Per my HUB info n3.z21.leenooks.net:24554 is correct.. So is there a way to get the f100 off or do I really just need to go in and set the BinkP Host settings manually?

Just to ensure that I was connecting and getting mail I already set the Host but really want to understand how the FTN lookups work or is it just Fido that works?

Just put your hub's hostname in sbbsecho.ini/echocfg directly. You don't need to use the DNS-based look-up at all, for your hub/uplink.

digital man

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Re: Nodelist FTN Help
By: Digital Man to pcmedtek on Tue Oct 13 2020 03:45 pm

If you use the ftp-setup.js/init-fidonet.js method of fsxNet setup, it should take care of all that
for you.

I used this utility via the X-ternal doors option and it worked quite well for Fsxnet. The series of questions generated all the configs and jobs I needed, which is great. Back in the day I used D'bridge which unified all the tools under one UI. Having all the tools as separate programs with their own configs is very complicated, and without this tool I would have been lost.

So thanks for creating it. My fsxnet application was approved and I'm now getting the Echos and files. (I had to setup the file (tic) processing, but the wiki helped there).

The one thing that I'm not sure how to do is to take the Nodelist updates and get them into the right place. I was reading on the Wiki about ticIT and the handler scripts that can move the new Nodelist around with some configuration, but the instructions were not very comprehensive.

I'm also not sure if a Nodelist is even needed these days... unless we're a HUB or planning on sending a bunch of netmail?

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Re: Nodelist FTN Help
By: Digital Man to pcmedtek on Tue Oct 13 2020 03:45 pm

When you setup a new Message network (in my case adding FSXNET), using ECHOCFG

domain > fsxnet

I tell it where the nodelist is. /sbbs/fsxnet/FSX
and I changed it to leenooks.net for the dns suffix (as it looks like they are using that for FTN lookups)

My information says they're using fsxnet.nz for DNS-based address look-ups (not leenooks.net).

I will try the fsxnet.nz again.

If you use the ftp-setup.js/init-fidonet.js method of fsxNet setup, it should take care of all that for you.

I used that to setup Fidonet.. Didn't want to mess up prior networks

Just put your hub's hostname in sbbsecho.ini/echocfg directly. You don't need to use the DNS-based look-up at all, for your hub/uplink.

digital man

That is what I am doing at the moment to keep things flowing. The one side of my brain really wants to understand how things work and when it doesn't work as I expect it to then it goes into over drive.
The Keep it simple method is usually the best.




Jeff Bodenstein
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Re: Nodelist FTN Help
By: Bob Roberts to Digital Man on Tue Oct 13 2020 06:32 pm

Re: Nodelist FTN Help
By: Digital Man to pcmedtek on Tue Oct 13 2020 03:45 pm

If you use the ftp-setup.js/init-fidonet.js method of fsxNet setup, it should take care of all that
for you.

I used this utility via the X-ternal doors option and it worked quite well for Fsxnet. The series of questions generated all the configs and jobs I needed, which is great. Back in the day I used D'bridge which unified all the tools under one UI. Having all the tools as separate programs with their own configs is very complicated, and without this tool I would have been lost.

So thanks for creating it. My fsxnet application was approved and I'm now getting the Echos and files. (I had to setup the file (tic) processing, but the wiki helped there).

The one thing that I'm not sure how to do is to take the Nodelist updates and get them into the right place. I was reading on the Wiki about ticIT and the handler scripts that can move the new Nodelist around with some configuration, but the instructions were not very comprehensive.

I think that's what load/tickit/nodelist_handler.js is used for. I haven't used it, but that's its purpose.

I'm also not sure if a Nodelist is even needed these days... unless we're a HUB or planning on sending a bunch of netmail?

I haven't used a FidoNet nodelist in 25 years, so you can definitely live without it (routed netmail by default, DNS-based lookups for the rare crash mail).

digital man

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Re: Nodelist FTN Help
By: pcmedtek to Digital Man on Tue Oct 13 2020 11:27 pm

If you use the ftp-setup.js/init-fidonet.js method of fsxNet setup, it should take care of all that for you.

I used that to setup Fidonet.. Didn't want to mess up prior networks

You can use the automated FTN setup for multiple networks. Shouldn't mess anything up.

digital man

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