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Subject: Re: Scientists: Most of the areas west of the Mississippi will be
uninhabitable within 25 years, desert within 50!
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 09:42:48 -0600
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On 7/20/2012 9:32 AM, * US * wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 09:23:33 -0600, SWOTL<SW@O.TL> wrote:
... droughts that preceded the
disappearance of the Anasazi ...
Do you believe they would somehow dispute that
human activity contributes to desertification?
I can not comment on what the now extinct Anasazi would believe, nor can
you.
"The process occurs due to both natural and human causes."
http://library.thinkquest.org/26026/Science/desertification.html
The "process" not in effect across the entire inter-mountain West, and especially NOT present at High Park or Waldo Canyon.
Localized "desertification" in the Colorado Plateau did NOT cause the
current La Nina drought, nor did it cause the large Colorado wildfires
in High Park or Waldo Canyon.
Learn to read maps:
http://google.org/crisismap/2012_us_wildfires
http://www.smokeybear.com/wildfire-map.asp
http://www.bobspixels.com/kaibab.org/gct/coloplat.htm
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:30:55 -0600, SWOTL<SW@O.TL> wrote:
... can not tolerate being factually
contradicted.
No wonder you ignore the facts, then.
Why do you think High Park or Waldo Canyon are located in the Colorado Plateau?
There are many factors which affect climate.
Make a note of it.
Which factors have caused the 1904 La Nina ?
http://www.publicaffairs.noaa.gov/lanina.html
What is La Niña?
La Niña is characterized by unusually cold ocean temperatures in the
eastern equatorial Pacific, as compared to El Niño, which is
characterized by unusually warm ocean temperatures in the Equatorial
Pacific. Click here for a whole list of frequently asked questions.
Previous Cold Phases
La Niñas occurred in 1904, 1908, 1910, 1916, 1924, 1928, 1938, 1950,
1955, 1964, 1970, 1973, 1975, 1988, 1995
Typical La Niña Impacts
La Niña tends to bring nearly opposite effects of El Niño to the United
States — wetter than normal conditions across the Pacific Northwest and
dryer and warmer than normal conditions across much of the southern tier.
On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 22:53:33 -0600, SWOTL<SW@O.TL> wrote:
Did "Americans" ...
You seem to be posting repeated identical messages,
which you wouldn't do if you knew enough about the
fact that your repeat chanting won't substitute for a
valid point of some sort.
Just answer the question, what did the Anasazi do to their climate to
cause the 16th century drought?
Do you believe that because the sun heats the earth
human activity can't do so also?
Human activity did not cause the La Nina 2011-12 drought.
Undisputed:
http://www.ciesin.columbia.edu/docs/002-193/002-193.html
Well actually the relevant portion, as regards the Colorado fires and
four corners area is not addressed in this url. It focuses primarily, in
its look at North America, upon the Great Plains of the US and Canadian prairie provinces.
Do try a more relevant cite.
Also undisputed:
"Desertification of shrub and grassland into pinyon-juniper
woodland is occurring over much of the Colorado Plateau"
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15641385
I believe that past range management practices contributed to isolated
local effects in areas of Colorado NOT currently burning.
You may need to look at these maps to discover why your geographic
illiteracy is so evident:
http://google.org/crisismap/2012_us_wildfires
http://www.smokeybear.com/wildfire-map.asp
http://www.bobspixels.com/kaibab.org/gct/coloplat.htm
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